Just my thruppence worth. I have JAMS CD3 (without disc-rot it seems) and JAMS CD4 (sadly, with some yellowing although it still plays okay at the moment) both of which cost me more than normal RRP prices (i.e. I won them on eBay auctions). Having RM's (or anyone's) FTP server is fantastic as - for me at least - collecting is more about owning the original item then having the track (which may explan why I was prepared to go to £923 for PT3 a couple of months ago). It also gives me the best of both worlds as I can keep my collection safely tucked away in protective cases while still being able to download the same tracks, listen to them for a while, bin them, and download them again some other time. Also, didn't Mancentral (RIP) have MP3's on-line? I seem to remember downloading parts of the White Room demos cassette from it a few years back... I don't think KLF Communications would have a problem with this (I'm sure you'd know by now) and, hey, give it another 60 years and it all be in the public domain anyway. Actually, don't some of the early JAMs releases say something like "in the name of Mu, we hereby liberate these sounds from any copyright protection..."? God bless you RM for your hard-disk space, let's just hope your backups are working! ;-) Chris