The story I heard about the "Deep Shit" 12" (and Thomas should be able to confirm this) was that someone in London DOES have the record, containing 3 tracks "Deep Shit", "M E (Club)" and "Lover's Side (Extended)". Thomas recorded it, when he visited him - but its possible other copies/versions have "escaped" since. The discography lists two versions of "Deep Shit" on the 12" ("D S (Part 2)" and "D S (Part 3 - The Illegal Mix"), but I've only ever heard the one with KSTJ sampled on it, as described. It even has a catalogue number which refers to KSTJ - KLF 010IR (the "I" for illegal?) I have no idea what the record actually looks like - but the presence of a (very good sound quality) Lover's Side extended version and a Madrugada Eterna (Club Mix) without all the pops and crackles the Dutton 12" has, suggests that its, if not entirely genuine, then at least made up by someone VERY close to the band (didn't Youth and Alex and B & J have a sort of thing going with limited editions for friends only back in '89 - like the WTIL (Monster Attack Mix) and possibly Love Trance?) As far as the other 12" is concerned, with the three versions of "M E" on it - didn't someone once say this was sold on e-bay years ago? I have an mp3 (very good quality) of an edit of the club mix, about 3 mins 15 secs, which seems to have come from a promo for commercial release. Which leads me to wonder ... ... If it HAD been released in early 1990, I wonder if "M E" could have been a chart hit hit, considering it would have coincided with similar things like Enigma? John PS - According to Google, Neil Dutton works in the IT department of Leeds University and has no connection to the KLF (except possibly a cassette single of "Justified and Ancient" in his loft). I meant "Mike Dutton", of course - but then, all knew that, didn't you? ;-)