it appears to be that long since i looked at this list, due to a mixture of crazy shit happening in my life and total addiction to Second Life (don't do it kids) so i've just spent a couple hours trawling through hundreds of mails, not as many as i expected though but nice that people are making more of an effort than i have to keep things alive ;-) couple things stood out, now mostly lost in the mists of time-ish the stuff about TWR locations was fascinating and very well researched, by Mr Milne in particular the ladybird book of policemen link from...Mark? was awesome, off-topic but funniest thing i've seen for a while the discussion about the end of recorded music, mr drummond and so forth was also what we surely need more of in this list so long as this is balanced with KLF musical content, because when all is said and done it *is* connected and we do often find there is just very little to talk about KLF-music-related whilst Bill and Jimmy continue with other artistic endeavours that said, there were some strange definitions of "art" in there - who said artists fail when they forget they are entertainers? art is surely self-expression via various media in a mostly non-literal form...if people enjoy it or buy it that's not what defines it as art. J D Salinger has written vaults of stuff since the 1960s apparently but has no wish to publish it, but it is as much his "art" as The Catcher in the Rye which has sold millions of copies. anyway i'm digressing and this is already getting spookily close to requiring an "OT" ;-) the whole remaster/demaster thread was kinda interesting (and Lazlo returned!) and i must admit i was a little mystified as to why those albums might require an overhaul (rather like Kevin Shield's surely unnecessary remaster, in 2 versions, of My Bloody Valentine's 'Loveless') although i think people were a little harsh on Lucy who along with her partner has after all given us several very cool and *free* remixes of KLF tracks. If you don't want the remasters then don't download 'em. And how it descended into some inane and repetitious "tits" thread is beyond me, wasn't so much fun sifting through all of those mails! the strange japanese site that was linked to some time ago looks definitely worthy of further investigation, even if it turns out to be kinda insubstantial it's visually arresting and eccentric, so very apt! i clicked the link to Waterstones regarding where Bill was dropping by but it was dead, and hoped in a way he never came to Bristol else i missed him =/ i was in Fopp the other day though and my friend came over and said "have you seen this? i bought this for my boyfriend" and it was the set of "17" cards, the book was there too. She didn't know the KLF connection so i started explaining before realising how nerdy i sounded =/ whoever asked about Moby's version of 'New Dawn Fades' probably knows this was a Joy Division song, but he also played it live with New Order at least once. Personally i dislike the little bald dude and his brand of coffee table noodling but i always loved 'Go', that was pretty nifty finally if anyone is still reading and still interested in the difference between the 1989 and 2000 issues of Shag Times, there are *major* differences, the most obvious being that the back of the original sleeve was black with white print, but the reissue was white on black. also the vinyl came in semi-transparent kinda polythene inner sleeves much like the Pure Trance reissues, whereas i think the original used paper inners? Also i may be wrong but surely the original was a single sleeve with the press cuttings etc on an insert but the reissue is most definitely gatefold? but i could well be wrong there of course at risk of repeating myself, it is also v easy to tell the original PT issues from the reissues, as well as generally being coloured slightly differently (the original WTIL is a depper green than the reissue, whereas for 008R this is kinda reversed) the reissue sleeves also opened at the top instead of the side, and had the polythene inners. And of course for 008R the lettering on the cover (overlap of "trancentral" with the "5") differs (breathes) finally it's great to see klf.de resurrected, good work Thomas (and Dan?) and great to see Milne on board! Also wishing you the best of health John, will catch up soon and keep a closer eye on things here =) R's tbc. PS - ok we know the thing is a fake but has anyone actually bought or heard "Deep Shit - The Cult of Mu"? People are still buying them and the main track is 11 mins or so long, i would be intrigued to know how it sounds...