so, the countdown is counting down correctly the countdown is the same on PC and Mac the countdown is until the 23rd of January 2005 and on top of that, they have moved the countdown from below the gallery/exhibition details to above them - if it was a human mistake surely they would have noticed when they did that. I would say that that is a lot of proof that it is meant to be counting down to the 23rd of January 2005. ... WHY????? also, has anyone got the doors of the advent calendar to open? I note that the padlocks are disappearing off the doors with each day, and if you click on the door it expands to fill the screen, but thats all I can get to happen. the website is too cryptic/annoying for me, I won't be going back every day now, so I would say it has failed in its purpose. cheers -- This is the webmail account of Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (3) 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map@ihug.co.nz Photography, Graphic and Web design, Web development and hosting: http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/