i'm not saying this is the last word but this confirms my argument in the klf.de forums that the other coloured vinyls were never really anything to do with B&J the fact that elsewhere (could be in the digest - see the links in the LT discussion in the klf.de forums) someone mentioned an adrenalin employee acquiring the pressing plate for the IGUN 7" (and not some more obscure promo or LT) perhaps bears this out too tbc. mulesic@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hi All I thought i would air my views as i know a little bit about your latest questions. 1/ The way to tell a bootleg from the original is to compere the handwriting on the run-out groove, as all the original tunes were hand written this is easy and bootlegger has to be really clever to copy somebody's handwriting with a metal scribe! You can also check the die marks on the label (the raised circle around the center hole these are different for each presssing plant, and for that fact each pressing machine.So for the forger to copy sombody's handwriting with a scribe and then find a pressing machine with the same die and have a copy of the original tune to copy from would be pretty smart. 2/So to the coloured plastics ,the only two colours which are original are: It's Grim Up North 12" Grey vinyl without the Cat. No.JAMS26! America 7" Splatter vinyl This was made for the KLF but was returned to the pressing plant by Sally at the office as she did not like it. The rest of the colours(with the proper handwritten Cat Nos) were made by the night shift at the pressing plant as a side line. Also the sleeve for KLF8T has Pink lettering on a Black background it does not have E-Train written at the bottom it has White Room!.I have a copy of the Kylie remix-remix 12" somewhere from the UK pressing plant but i don't think it has the Cat No. KLF 010RR. Sorry to be so boring but i have to get it off my chest. Bye ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 9.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.