Is it really so much to ask that if I buy a 12" claiming to be a remix of a song I like (be it KLF, Art of Noise, etc) that it at least bear some resemblance, or at least a sample of the original track? If I buy a remix of WTIL I would expect to hear that riff in there somewhere, or at least vocal samples from the WR version. Tracks such as this one by Villalolbos (and, really so many others on singles over the last 10+ years) sound like the remixer's own creation with "New Pet Shop Boys Remix!" slapped on it, the only thing in common being *maybe* the bpm. How can this be justified as a remix? It's a valid discussion. But if you wish to avoid actually answering the questions poised by dismissing the discussion as trivial that's certainly your prerogative. More like a cover version. Illuminatus' mixes are very similar - the GOA mix didn't even feature the riff, just closely resembled it. ..::// Thomas Touzimsky "My head is spinnin' so my feet don't touch the ground My eyes is blinded by the light, my hearing deafened by the sound My body's shackin' like a leaf, my heart's been beatin' out of time My blood's been boilin' up inside and I've been fearin' for my life..."