Just catching up on all the recent list
activity and I noticed this thread.
Don’t know if any of this helps but…
Back before I sold much of my KLF
collection I had three
variations of The White Room VHS tape.
The 1st was a rather poor
reproduction that was circulated through the list by Jai… pretty sure
this was between 95 and 97 but perhaps Jai might remember better than I
Not long after I bought two of a first
generation tapes from Andy… the card sleeves and labelling to both were typically
generic of the industry promo video exactly as the images Andy posted links to.
If memory serves me I eventually sold one
to Xavier and the other to a collector in the States.
Some months later I responded to an advert
in Record Collector who was advertising a lot of “Heavily Priced”
items amongst the collection he was offering “The White Room Original VHS
(Finished)” After asking about the items validity he told me that he had
worked for Scott at Appearing and the tape had been for presentation to “German
Investors” to secure distribution funding.
Rather than parting with the money by post
I arranged to meet him at his home (a flat in
When I got there he showed me the tape
which was presented very professionally and appeared to be similar in quality
as the “Waiting” and “Stadium House” tapes I had.
I bought the tape and before leaving asked
him if he had any other KLF items I might be interested in… He pulled out
the 12” pressing plate for the original grey vinyl “It’s Grim
Up North”.
After he told me the eye-watering price he
wanted for it I tried haggling the price down but he refused to budge…
his only concession was to say that if I paid him his price he had a second
copy of The White Room film that he would throw in.
At that time I was utterly addicted to
collecting KLF and knew that I simply couldn’t leave without the plate
and eventually buckled and paid up.
When back at home I played the two
I am pretty certain that I later sold one
of the tapes to Len and the other to a guy who lived in or near
It is quite a while ago but from memory
the sleeve to Tom’s video looks the same as the ones I had from
Love Peace & Happiness
Tim
From:
klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of tom
Sent: 17 February 2012 13:13
To: klf@mailman.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [KLF] Collection
going on Ebay
Holy moly.... I've stirred up a hornets nest
I
went to bed feeling really depressed - I have always thought of this as a
genuine copy - maybe not the reported first batch from Bill Butt but a genuine
copy non the less. Feeling slightly better this morning after seeing Lens
comments.
Anyway
after careful thought I have decided to remove this from sale until we can
qualify its originality. I do not want to be accused of selling anything that
isn't genuine and it will distract from my other sales which definitely are the
real thing. I am gong on a hunt for the original correspondence I had with the
seller back in the 90's as I met up with them to exchange money and the tape.
Here's
what I'm thinking - maybe there was another batch made from the original master
a couple of years later by the production company?
I
would be happy to meet with anybody who lives in the South to review and
discuss. Where abouts do you live Andy?
From: andrewdavidlee@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:09:19 +0000
To: klf@mailman.xmission.com
Subject: Re: [KLF] Collection going on Ebay
Hi Tom The tech to create that cover (domestically) did not exist in 1991,
that's all I'm saying. I worked for Scott from '90 to '92 and I don't recognise
that cover. The pics in my link are the ones that came from Bill Butt. What
does the tape label look like? Andy On 16 February 2012 22:48, tom
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