At the risk of being the one discenting voice in all this, it does seem sadly inevitable. We live in a capitalist world. Did we really think that those big old mean record companies would let people swap stuff that they invest millions in for free forever? I think the vast majority of people on this list are with me when I say that I do download and rip mp3s, but I also buy a collosal quantity of music. Just like hometaping in the 80's, we ain't gonna kill music cos we still plough moneyback into it. The problem is that many many many others are simply downloading and ripping CDs, and not putting anything back into the pot. Whether we like it or not, those dents in record company profits are a bad thing, as it makes them more defensive, conservative and middle of the road. The fact that it's evil and capitalist and la dee da is irrelevant. Boo hoo. We could stand here all day and rant about how unfair the world is. The fact is that if copy protection stops the continuing, passive pirating of pop music between people who are lazy, selfish and think they can somehow dodge capitalism, then, fuck it, GOOD. I'd rather have a few problems playing my new Lemon Jelly CD than not have it available at all. Del ----------------------------------- Derek Knight djnite@klf-communications.com http://www.djnite.co.uk
-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Kingboy DSP Sent: 19 November 2002 16:01 To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [KLF] [ot] Copy protection
Thats the reason why I have Plextor CD drives (UltraPlex 40 and Plexwriter 121032 SCSI). Plextor got VERY useful feature. They can read ALL the protected CD (audio, data) without any problem :) All the audio CD's available here in Czech Republic are copy protected. Say fuck off to any kind of restrictions !
Kingboy DSP
-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Touzimsky Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:50 PM To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [KLF] [ot] Copy protection
I am returning these defective CDs and demanding working replacements, I encourage everyone to do the same.
I finally found a CD/DVD drive that accepted the copy-protected Kosheen CD and was able to rip the songs to wav files (no magic marker or anything), which brings me to the conclusion that, after all, the copy protection was another useless effort to fill company executives' money bags.
Somehow, a vision came to my mind... imagine a car retailer sells you the newest model in store with a note that "you are only allowed to drive our cars on the roads we allow you to".
I mailed to BMG using their www.bmg-copycontrol.info page, asking who would replace a scratched CD, since I was unable to do a copy for private use, preserving the original. All that came back was the standard reply that did not answer my question after all. Now THAT is customer service, isn't it ?
--- Thomas Touzimsky same shit // different day
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