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Orbital DVD Hidden Features
by Mark Reed 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Press Left from the main menu. "Doctor?" can also be played by pressing the enter on the "?" icon. Pressing "Exit" gives you a 24 minute version of "Meltdown". Pressing Right at the main menu gives you three different videos for "Pay Per View". Use your "Title" button to skip to the following: Title 3 is the "Doctor?" video (multiangle version) Title 4 is the "Monorail" video (multiangle version) Title 5 is the "Making Of The Funny Break" video (multiangle version) Title 6 is the "Shadows" video (alternate version) Title 7 is the "Tension" video (alternate version) Title 8 is the "Meltdown" video (audio only) "Waving Not Drowning" video Title 9 is backstage dialogue with music Title 10 is an alternate ending for the video Title 11 is the video without music Title 12 is a documentary from inside the CD factory segment of the video with a childrens TV voiceover from Brian Cant from Playschool, Playaway, and Trumpton. Title 13 is the video with backstage dialogue only Title 14 shows auditions for the video. "Pay Per View" Title 15 is the alternative version of the video Title 16 are all the adverts seen during the Channel Surfing section of the video including a male voice choir performing versions of several Orbital songs. "Those who make peaceful revolutions impossible will make violent revolutions inevitable" President Kennedy "They blow themselves up in order to get at us, and we launch 3 million dollar missiles off of giant floating iron islands 2000 miles away - Who are the real cowards?" - Bill Hicks, Â©1993

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RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD
by Don Gagen 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Not really. In my limited scope of knowledge, I could tell some things were going to be problematic from the description of the process. He just confirmed my suspicions. How you choose to compress your video makes a huge difference in the quality. It's the hardest part if you want to do it right. If VCD quality is good enough then it's probably not a big deal anyway. > -----Original Message----- > From: Martijn Melenhorst [mailto:rheenen@home.nl] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:40 PM > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD > > > I would almost say your professional DVD authoring friend > feels attacked by the fact that an amateur is trying to do > what he is doing for a living? > > I mean: > > > 4. If he doesn't realize this stuff, there are about 100 > other things he > > does not know, so I bet he can't encode very well either. > > Hey, mr! Let the 'amateur' give an answer first before you > draw to conclusions... geez... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KLF mailing list > KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf >

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Re:[KLF] new order tracey emins cat
by Hawx 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Is this actually a KLF record or what? I think I've missed the thread here... Hawx Original message from: ben >Evil dust is just a realy poor (comparitively) instrumental of Angel >dust. >I just want to play the video at least once and I thought with all this >talk of VCD >I may get to see it. > > >Message: 5 >From: "Mark Reed" <gentle.anarchist(a)virgin.net> >To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [KLF] Re: KLF digest, Vol 1 #94 - 3 msgs >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:58:20 -0000 >Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > >Bastard! In the nicest sense of the word. You have "Evil Dust" on CD. :) > >The Gold 7" is probably worth Â£500, going on what people pay for Tracey >Emin's "Missing Cat" posters. > >M > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ben" <ben(a)jamjam23.com> >To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:44 AM >Subject: [KLF] Re: KLF digest, Vol 1 #94 - 3 msgs > > > >Anyone know how I can watch a golden 1988 VCD (similar to doctorin the >tardis but >if I am completely hoest its New order True Faith) on a Mac? >Also for insurance purposes (Like on antiques roadshow) how much are the > >following >worth , Kylie Said to Jason (Remix in custom 12 sleeve) Kylie said (CD >single), >1991 the Works (VHS promo no sleeve with extra vids at the end inc Kylie > >said, >madrugada edit, Stadium house 3). >Also I have mounted LTTT 7" on a board sprayed it gold and poured coffee > >on it >then sawed it in half, how much do you reckon I would get for that, >maybe at a >gallery >or a record fare. >Cheers >Ben >aka >Switchroom >aka >jamjam23 >aka >worstenemy >aka >papercut magazine >aka >fantastic trevors >aka >noisebag >aka >dave >aka >you get the picture >http://www.worstenemy.co.uk >not updated for ages mainly due to legal issue >relating to past projects >5+ > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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Re: [KLF] new order tracey emins cat
by Bongdevil＠aol.com 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

In a message dated 3/31/02 10:42:37 AM GMT Daylight Time, thug5(a)optusnet.com.au writes: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/documentaries/lamacq_docs_orb.shtml nice 1 micheal, for the URL....

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new order tracey emins cat
by ben 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Evil dust is just a realy poor (comparitively) instrumental of Angel dust. I just want to play the video at least once and I thought with all this talk of VCD I may get to see it. Message: 5 From: "Mark Reed" <gentle.anarchist(a)virgin.net> To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [KLF] Re: KLF digest, Vol 1 #94 - 3 msgs Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:58:20 -0000 Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Bastard! In the nicest sense of the word. You have "Evil Dust" on CD. :) The Gold 7" is probably worth Â£500, going on what people pay for Tracey Emin's "Missing Cat" posters. M ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben" <ben(a)jamjam23.com> To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:44 AM Subject: [KLF] Re: KLF digest, Vol 1 #94 - 3 msgs Anyone know how I can watch a golden 1988 VCD (similar to doctorin the tardis but if I am completely hoest its New order True Faith) on a Mac? Also for insurance purposes (Like on antiques roadshow) how much are the following worth , Kylie Said to Jason (Remix in custom 12 sleeve) Kylie said (CD single), 1991 the Works (VHS promo no sleeve with extra vids at the end inc Kylie said, madrugada edit, Stadium house 3). Also I have mounted LTTT 7" on a board sprayed it gold and poured coffee on it then sawed it in half, how much do you reckon I would get for that, maybe at a gallery or a record fare. Cheers Ben aka Switchroom aka jamjam23 aka worstenemy aka papercut magazine aka fantastic trevors aka noisebag aka dave aka you get the picture http://www.worstenemy.co.uk not updated for ages mainly due to legal issue relating to past projects 5+

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Re: KLF digest, Vol 1 #94 - 3 msgs
by ben 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Anyone know how I can watch a golden 1988 VCD (similar to doctorin the tardis but if I am completely hoest its New order True Faith) on a Mac? Also for insurance purposes (Like on antiques roadshow) how much are the following worth , Kylie Said to Jason (Remix in custom 12 sleeve) Kylie said (CD single), 1991 the Works (VHS promo no sleeve with extra vids at the end inc Kylie said, madrugada edit, Stadium house 3). Also I have mounted LTTT 7" on a board sprayed it gold and poured coffee on it then sawed it in half, how much do you reckon I would get for that, maybe at a gallery or a record fare. Cheers Ben aka Switchroom aka jamjam23 aka worstenemy aka papercut magazine aka fantastic trevors aka noisebag aka dave aka you get the picture http://www.worstenemy.co.uk not updated for ages mainly due to legal issue relating to past projects klf-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Send KLF mailing list submissions to > klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > klf-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > klf-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KLF digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Even further OT (was RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD) (Chris Bennett) > 2. Re: RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD (Chris Bennett) > 3. Re Re m25 Spin (Mark Weston) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:36:52 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris Bennett <christopher_m_bennett(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Even further OT (was RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD) > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > Secondly editing out bits of messages that were not > > intended for public > > eyes is not censorship. If you wanted to send a copy > > of an e-mail to > > somebody and take out (say) your credit card > > details, or something > > private, then you would be editing it. Not censoring > > it. If the guy > > removed his friend's e-mail address from the message > > (I can't remember > > if he did or not?) then again, that's editing, not > > censorship. > He was thinking of removing parts of the message > because HE thought it would be offensive (sounds like > censorship to me) (NOT removing unnecessary parts of > the message: editing) > > In case you hadn't guessed I'm a TV editor who has > > taken objection to > > your implications that > > a) TV jobs require creativity but no skill or > > experience or talent > > and > > b) that anything edited because it isn't appropriate > > to the finished > > piece is censorship. > Stuart: you are one of the few people I have seen on > many mailing lists with intelligent things to say, > don't bend what I was saying about a certain few > individuals and occupations just to take offense by > it..There are many things that I CAN'T do, and won't > say that I can..(like editing film and making it look > continuous when there has been parts removed..no > matter how I try, it just turns to shit..)It's when > people over-inflate themselves, and they are doing > something simple, but making it LOOK difficult that I > wonder about them.. > All jobs (barring floor mopper at a porn show) require > talent, and skill, but when people forget that others > CAN aquire those very skills, and begin inflating > themselves to new levels, it's then that they start > forgetting about the under-achievers.. > Bill and Jimmy never went to conservatory to study > music, and they still got the skills to make music > that a larger part of the population wouldn't have the > skill to duplicate.... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy AwardsÂ® > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:38:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris Bennett <christopher_m_bennett(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Except he had his facts wrong, and was telling me I > was wrong.. ;) open mouth, insert foot. > > But then, somebody who works professionally doing a > > particular job has > > the right to suggest that somebody else (a > > self-confessed amateur) has > > got some of his facts wrong. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy AwardsÂ® > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Mark Weston" <mark.weston5(a)btinternet.com> > To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:52:55 -0000 > Subject: [KLF] Re Re m25 Spin > Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Yes thats me in the FTM t-shirt.There were some more picks originally are > they still on the net also what happened to X$X i have a couple of the > videos X$X promo thing....by the way the X$X sign which was planted at the > bottom of the A3 / M25 at the end of the spin ...its in me garden now > gracefully by the BBQ area ready for those chilled evenings with hot food > and ice cold Red Stripe...Great memories of a great day.Regards Mark. > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > KLF mailing list > KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf > > End of KLF Digest

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RE: [KLF] VCD
by Rod Gilmour 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Me thinks he doth complain too much.... -----Original Message----- From: Darren Forster [mailto:darrenforster99@ntlworld.com] Sent: 30 March 2002 00:50 To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [KLF] VCD I too am guilty of that crime :( I promised someone on this list a VCD a while ago. Then my video broke, I got my video fixed by some cowboy and it broke again, then I got a proper job to get a new video. Now I've got a new video, just not got enough time to play with it until this job ends on the 8th April :( btw my new VCR is a Daewoo, Nicam Hi-Fi Stereo, SP/LP, 6 Head, Auto-setup, Video Plus & PDC VCR with absolutely crystal clear picture and sound quality (a lot better than my old VCR that was a Daewoo, Mono, SP/LP VCR), so when I get the time to put these videos on VCD (and the space on my hard disk, I'm going to a computer fair tommorow to look out for something bigger than a 4Gb HDD! - maybe a 20 or 40Gb!) and post them they should be in a lot better quality with Hi-Fi sound (providing the video was supplied in Hi-Fi?) Norton Anti-virus has checked this e-mail for viruses from the outbound computer and has not found any virus. Please note this does not guarantee this e-mail to be free from all viruses. -----Original Message----- From: klf-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chris Bennett Sent: 17 March 2002 23:46 To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] VCD Some time ago I promised someone I would send them a copy of the VCD's that I had.. Unfortunately for us both, I got busy, and much time has passed..will the person I was talking to respond to me off the list, and get me your address? I actually got them copied today.. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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VCD
by Chris Bennett 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Some time ago I promised someone I would send them a copy of the VCD's that I had.. Unfortunately for us both, I got busy, and much time has passed..will the person I was talking to respond to me off the list, and get me your address? I actually got them copied today.. For the rest of the list..I started the layout on a DVD for KLF stuff today...I think it'll be awesome.. Now All I gotta do is get a DVDR, or find someone who will press them cheap... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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Wanda D
by Thomas Touzimsky 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Someone posted Wanda Dee´s AIM account name a while ago here... could you please repeat ? Can´t find it right now. cy@ Thomas KLF Online

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RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD
by Don Gagen 28 Mar '02

28 Mar '02

Wow! I can see why you would take offense to the "tone" of his message. However, there is some good information there too. I should have edited the content. You are right about that recorder. The information that the Pioneer rep provided to his office was totally wrong. It's nice to know if you do decide to use the A03 burner you can use the cheaper media. The key is making sure that they are recognized and play well on the end users player. Unfortunately most of the players fail to recognize the general-purpose DVD-R and DVD-RW at this point. The main point is that you're actually better off leaving it as a VCD. More players play VCD than the general purpose DVD-Rs. Secondly, you won't get better quality by converting it DVD unless you start over with the original videos. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Bennett [mailto:christopher_m_bennett@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:48 PM > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: RE: RE: Becoming OT Re: [KLF] VCD > > > Attacked? no..but he should be..I am a certified > Novell guy..and full time computer tech... > I can come up with 10 million reasons why someone is > completely stupid for wanting to install their own > video card..but I can also say "It's not that @#$@# > hard, and yes..it IS possible for other people besides > your amazing self that are capable of understanding > these not really complex things.. > > (there are more than just this guy who knows how to > author DVD's..) > > > > I would almost say your professional DVD authoring > > friend > > > feels attacked by the fact that an amateur is > > trying to do > > > what he is doing for a living? > > > > > 4. If he doesn't realize this stuff, there are > > about 100 > > > other things he > > > > does not know, so I bet he can't encode very > > well either. > > 2. If he is on a Pioneer burner (which is probable) he > is using A03 burner (those are the ones that do the > DVD-R and DVD-RW). A03 won't work with the sucky $5 > general purpose DVD-Rs (as opposed to authoring > DVD-Rs). A03 burned discs also have more compatibility > issues than A02 discs (the burner I have). > > Uh..check the stats bucko..the A03's can't do the > DVD-R's for authoring..just the general purpose.. > http://www.shop4tech.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?html_requested=dvdrchart Boy..it really makes me mad to see someone preaching and forgetting to read the book first.. A word to the "friend" ..Shut your yap..you are NOT the brightest bulb in the lamp.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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