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Wizard and (non) payment - Maarten PLEASE READ THIS!
by Chris Peel 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

Received this email from Wizard. I'm not getting into a flame war (it's none of my business) but, given Wizard's comments, I should think a little lee-way is called for here? [snip]... i've told him that i do want the items but am at present comforting my brother as he lost his son a month ago in a road traffic accident... this guy won't even answer my emails so what do i do? now he writes an awful email about me to the list.... some people don't give a damn....[snip] Thanx Wizard

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Re: klf records....
by Maarten Bouwes 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

This is definately not my style but I have to settle a few things here... This guy sent me an email that he was *seriously* interested in a few of my KLF items. As soon as he had the money, he was going to send me payment. At the end of january, he asked me if it was ok when he was going to pay me at the end of feb, since he had bought a lot of klf items on ebay and was short on funds. At the end of feb, another email was sent in which he promised me he would have enough funds by the 3rd week of march.. this mail below was sent a long time ago: > hi maarten, my records are on ebay now, so as soon as they sell (OR not) >i'll be sending payment to you... > > thanx for your patience... > > Wizard It's the 11th of april right now... I know, this is my problem... Thought you should know... Wizard, I'd rather sell them for a buck now than selling them to you... No replies needed. Maarten _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/

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Blacksmoke - Open The Gates
by RMStringer 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Who is the voice speaking at the beginning of the song? RMStringer ********************************* "As we race toward the fate of Rome. We look around and see the change, thinking it's for the better. And we embrace our own corruption." -Wm. Moritz Hardwick, D.C.

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RE: [KLF] KLF Vs. ENT
by Maarten Bouwes 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

I wasnÂ´t aware of the fact they were bootlegs...? IÂ´ve had all four of them. A clear vinyl, an orange vinyl (According to the discog "mustard") a testpressing and an "original" release. Handwriting in the runoff groove were all the same. IÂ´m not too sure about this since I sold my testpressing and my orange one to a listmember. You should ask him for the details. Cheers, Maarten >From: "Nick King" <nickwking(a)ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: nickwking(a)ntlworld.com,"All bound for Mu-Mu Land." ><klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: RE: [KLF] KLF Vs. ENT >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:39:19 +0100 > >There've been a number of coloured vinyl bootlegs - from memory, I can >remember at least a clear vinyl one, but I'm sure they're others? > >Someone else on the list probably knows of some more! > >Cheers, > > >Nick ;-) > >-----Original Message----- >From: klf-bounces+nickwking=ntlworld.com(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:klf-bounces+nickwking=ntlworld.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf >Of Simon Glass > >Well spotted John, never noticed that. Not sure about the 'promo' version >but I have seen at least 2 versions of the standard 7 inch...does anyone >know if it was booted? Seen it in a white paper sleeve with a hole to >display label as well as a plain black sleeve, no hole and i think the info >('KLF' and track title) was printed top-left in white. Anyone aware of >further versions? > >John Milne <john(a)highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Last week, I managed to get hold of a copy of Pete Robinson's "Justified >and Ancient History" on e-bay, and noticed something peculiar in the >discography. > >He lists two different versions of the "Top of the Pops" "3 AM Eternal" >with Extreme Noise Terror. KLF5TOTP and KLF5TOTPX are both listed (the >later as a promo). Anyone know what the promo version of "3 AM" sounds >like? > >Forgive me if this has been brought up before (in 1991!) > >John > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl

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Re: [KLF] KLF Vs. ENT
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

> least 2 versions of the standard 7 inch...does anyone know if it was booted? Seen it in a > white paper sleeve with a hole to display label as well as a plain black sleeve, no hole and The black sleeved one is either a bootleg or a version given to ENT to sell. There is some debate on it. I say bootleg due to a audible crackle at the same place on both sides. As far as the promo version, I always had the impression it was the same track, just a different issue. I have no basis for this, tho. -paul

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KLF Vs. ENT
by John Milne 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Hi everyone, Last week, I managed to get hold of a copy of Pete Robinson's "Justified and Ancient History" on e-bay, and noticed something peculiar in the discography. He lists two different versions of the "Top of the Pops" "3 AM Eternal" with Extreme Noise Terror. KLF5TOTP and KLF5TOTPX are both listed (the later as a promo). Anyone know what the promo version of "3 AM" sounds like? Forgive me if this has been brought up before (in 1991!) John

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Cool alternative to burning money
by Don Gagen 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (Reuters) -- A British man who sold all his possessions, including his clothes, stood in a rented tuxedo on Sunday surrounded by family and friends and bet everything on a single spin of the roulette wheel. Ashley Revell, a 32-year-old Londoner, sold all his possessions in March, took $135,300 to the Plaza Hotel in Las Vegas, did some low stakes gambling and then placed everything he had left on "Red." The wheel was spun, a crowd of supporters including his Mum and Dad from London went wild, the ball bobbled over the slots and landed on Red '7' -- and Revell walked away with $270,600. http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/11/roulette.win.reut/index.html "The downside of being better than everyone else is that people tend to assume you're pretentious." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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KLF live gigs
by John Milne 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

Hi everyone, I thought I'd just pop up and post something about "live" gigs. I know theres a list of live gigs somewhere on-line (can't remember the link, though), but for the record heres mine: Live performance in Sweden in late 1987, outside Abba offices, when burning copies of their debut LP. According to the "Shag Times" sleeve notes, anyway. Does the "Live on Stage at the Benio" bit in "Burn the Bastards" refer to live JAMMs appearances? I wonder ... I think Bill and Jimmy started DJing with Alex Paterson in the first half of 1989, but I'm not sure. Certainly, their penchant for Apollo samples started around then. There may also have been evenings with Tony Thorpe around this time. Graham Lees live performance (semi-improvised) of Madrugada Eterna on steel guitar, which was recorded during a party, and then turned into the Chill Out track we know and love. I think this was recorded at Trancentral on 31st July 1989. Monday 31st July 1989 coincides with the release of Kylie Said to Jason (remember, folks, Graham's "Madrugada Eterna" didn't appear until the CD single in September) and seemed to be the first date the KLF ever played live (although Im sure I read somewhere their version of WTIL that night last 15 minutes, so the version of JAMSCD4 may be edited down). Presumably the night began and ended at Trancentral, with a visit to the Land of Oz in the middle. Sunday October 1st 1989 Chipping Norton Rave, as featured in the video where the KLF throw £1 Scottish notes on the crowd (or dollar bills, according to Andy. Not sure which story is true). The quote from "ID" magazine would suggest that "Helter Skelter" happened the same evening (Saturday 31/10/89 and 1/11/89) - so maybe they are the same rave. According to the video of Chipping Norton, they performed "What Time is Love" (and threw down bills from the tower with Cressida shouting "Free money!!!" amongst the crowd - no sign of Alex Paterson on the tower, though) and "3 AM Eternal". They also appeared to be playing "Pacific State" at one point - and started proceedings with "Jerusalem" (an old-fashioned vocal version). There were also a few Apollo samples and the "Blue Danube". During the autumn/winter of 89/90, Bill and Jimmy DJed a great deal with Alex Paterson and Youth (and possibly some of the Gee Street Records/"Eternity Project One" crowd?) at the Land of Oz and Trancentral. I think this may have been where the "Monster Attack Mix" of "WTIL" originated (which was distributed just amongst friends) as well as the early Orb/"Chill Out" sound. "A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating ... " etc was recorded the morning after a DJ party in late 1989 (as I imagine was "Chill Out" possibly?) Sadly, no recordings of their DJ sets seem to exist (except possibly the Made@3AM bootleg???). However, the appearance of Jesus Loves You (Boy George's band, doing "After the Love Has Gone") on JAMSCD5 seems to suggest some link - possibly a live PA with them around that time? This is just speculation. Anyway ... Mashall Lane Community Centre, Bootle, 15-17 March 1990 (Reverberation), appeared with Echo & the Bunnymen (in their Ian McCulloch-less days) to perform WTIL. Follow this link for an e-bay auction of the poster: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3802598580. This version of WTIL was recorded by Neil Dutton, I think, and in a very lo-fi way, on the "Arkive 1" bootleg. At the end, Will Sergeant says: Thanks to Mr. Jimmy Cauty (or something like that). This performance seemed to mark the end of the "ambient" phase of the KLF, and the beginning of the "stadium house" era, which was ushered in by: May 1990 Appearance in a club in Holland, where the sound equipment is passed around the audience. This can be seen briefly in the Cornfields version of the WTIL video, as well as in interview clips. This version was a full "PA" KLF - with rappers and dancers. I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly one of the magazines for those old "Volume" CDs) that this was a regular line-up at KLF parties during that summer (parties at Trancentral, anyway), and these "party" versions of their old "Pure Trance" records formed the basis of "stadium house". The "band" as appears on August's TOTP with "WTIL" is a similar line-up to the one that appeared at the club in May. May 1990 - Not sure if this was before or after the club in Holland, but what about their time on Jura filming "Waiting"? Some music must have been performed "live" then - even if it was only to sheep? Also - on a different subject - anyone else notice that the soundtrack to "Waiting" starts with Scott Piering saying "I need to get a hold of the KLF ... this is the 22nd of the 11th". Clearly, this phone message dates from November 1989 - I wonder what the KLF were doing that November, why they had hidden away, and why Scott needed to get a hold of them ...? Anyway ... June 1990 - Copehagen gig? Not sure how many live PAs they did that summer, before the release of "WTIL (Live at Trancentral)" (which was apparently based on their live PA version of the track). Autumn 1991 Appearance in Germany, to promote The White Room movie with movie executives present, and a lot of sheep. March 1992 The Brits 1992, appearance with Extreme Noise Terror. August 1992 After seeing the Red Army Choir at that years Edinburgh Festival, Bill organises a recording session with them (at the Village Hall in Newton Mearns, Dumfriesshire, his home town; this is also where The Man was recorded) with Jimmy present. Im sure there was some sort of performance that night. It must have been late 1992 or early 1993. This was when they recorded K Sera Sera. June 1993 Not a real appearance, but the Orb closed their set at Glastonbury that year with K Sera Sera, three months before its release in Israel. First appearance of the K? October 1993 The interstellar anthem appears again, played from one of the two orange K Foundation tanks, the night of the Turner Prize. September 1997 The 2K reunion at the Barbican. Originally intended for the 2nd September, but abandoned after the death of Princess Diana. Rescheduled for two weeks later. John

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KLF Live GIGS
by RMStringer 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

Why are there no live Gigs or mp3 floating around the net by the KLF? And if so, does some one have any of them to put on the server? RMStringer *********************************** Fly me to the moon and let me see the stars I'll take a piece of paradise and take a trip to Mars So tell me what I'm going through and show me where you are I've heard my favorite melodies in the back seat of your car - Revenge " STATE OF SHOCK"

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Re: [KLF] Happy Easter!!!
by theREALmxyzptlk 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

> > From my family to all of yours, > >Happy Easter!! > >RMStringer Back atcha. :-) j

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