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RE: [KLF] new art
by Don Gagen 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

In case you hadn't seen it, this was the image that inspired mine. He had a bit of his own "guns and roses" theme. http://www.artrepublic.com/posters/productpage/showposters.asp?sku=OP013 82 "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Peel Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:31 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: [KLF] new art I like it, with the following comments: 1. The '$1' detracts from the overall style making it look too "cheap" 2. I'd prefer it if the bullet was travelling from either side of the president's head (as opposed to rear-to-front), this would be inkeeping with the 9/11 style where most images are of the plane moving laterally. 3. Why Kennedy? Surely he was one of the less psychotic leaders? Of course, I understand the point that this put together quickly to show how easy such art is to produce - which kind of nullifies my comments! :) ps, Like the "Guns'n'Roses" motif! > -----Original Message----- > From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Don Gagen > Sent: 20 November 2003 22:58 > To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. > Subject: RE: [KLF] new art > > > FYI > > This photo collage with some additional manipulation took me > less than an hour to make. Comments are welcome > > If you like it please send me money. > > :) > > http://www.geocities.com/dgagen76006/kennedy.jpg "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ecnalubmatic Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:46 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: [KLF] new art I'd like to hear the concept they were going for. It would be kind of interesting for someone who knew what they were doing In photoshop tried to make something amateurish. Not sure what the point would be, but I could definitely see someone Coming up with the concept. It's not that easy to go backward on design Skills to make something look purposefully bad. That said, I doubt this was the idea. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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RE: [KLF] new art
by Don Gagen 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

The choice of Kennedy was completely random, but I think it worked out well. Other images I considered using were that of Bruce Lee, and a midget cowboy. I'm not sure he could be considered completely sane since he got us closer to nuclear war than any other US president. The bullet was an afterthought too. The trajectory of the bullet was intended to match that of the bullet that struck him from behind when he was killed. I did it to see how long it would take, and for fun. In any case, I know Mr.Cauty is capable of much more, so I'm just having a hard time understanding why he would put his name on something like this. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Peel Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:31 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: [KLF] new art I like it, with the following comments: 1. The '$1' detracts from the overall style making it look too "cheap" 2. I'd prefer it if the bullet was travelling from either side of the president's head (as opposed to rear-to-front), this would be inkeeping with the 9/11 style where most images are of the plane moving laterally. 3. Why Kennedy? Surely he was one of the less psychotic leaders? Of course, I understand the point that this put together quickly to show how easy such art is to produce - which kind of nullifies my comments! :) ps, Like the "Guns'n'Roses" motif!

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RE: [KLF] new art
by Don Gagen 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

I'm not sure what American pop artist or artists you are referring to. I'd like to see their work. No pop artist that I know of has become successful doing crap like this. This new work of his just falls into the category of poorly executed, amateur level, computer photo collage. It honestly looks a little better than some of the stuff I did on my friends Amiga paint program in 1986-87. I am only referring to the 2 new pieces. The ones with the queen and Big Ben are much better. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Muldowney Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:52 AM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] new art Hello There, My thoughts on these latest prints is that they are *meant* to be cheap and trashy looking to give them that American "pop art" look. Regards, Mark

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RE: [KLF] new art
by Don Gagen 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

I think they look like crappy Photoshop work. "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com ________________________________________ From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gene Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:31 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: [KLF] new art mmm wots with all this new art popping up every week or so by blacksmoke.the stamps wer cool.the big ben not bad ,but the 2 lastest,well i dont know.seems they appearing a bit quick and im not sure about em ,,,wot do you lot think. http://www.artrepublic.com/search.asp find em there.

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RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
by Simon Davies 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

Chris Did you see my email about the different versions of the above item on the list I do not know if it got through? Simon -----Original Message----- From: Chris Peel [mailto:munkie@cloud9ine.com] Sent: 08 November 2003 16:49 To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question Both my copies are identical -- with the exception of the sticker. I bought one (sans sticker) from Probe in Liverpool circa 1991/1992 and I won the other one on eBay recently. As far as the sleeves go, both have "THE JUSTIFIED ANCIENTS OF MU MU [pyramid logo] CIRCA 1987" "SH/\G TIMES" on the front and a white "KLF" in very large font on a black panel, although the rest of the rear of the p/s is white with the tracklist/credits in black. I also have RTD87 (the single LP version) which has an identical front to the two DLP3's (although no sticker). No idea if either/neither/both of these are the reissue or bootleg - comments? Chris -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 08 November 2003 16:37 To: PVC; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question See my previous comments too though...my version has a white sleeve with 'Shag Times...The Justified Ancients Of MuMu Circa 1987' on the front and a tracklist on the back, all in black print. This was 'new' when I bought it around 1992 therefore is probably the reissue/bootleg version but I have seen slightly tattier (therefore perhaps older) copies where the back of the sleeve is a totally black background with white print...i'd always assumed this was the original issue, therefore isn't that quite a major difference too? I think some of these older copies had the sticker on the front too. the main difference between the original and the repress is when you open the gatefold one of them was misprinted with the text on left and right inners (all the stuff about music papers and stuff) appearing transposed (ie left hand page printed on right and visa versa) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question > I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. > In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker > on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 > single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3" > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass > Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 > To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. > Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question > > > Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including > most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were > legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this > time. > > Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back > of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the > reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the > 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the > Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner > sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance > singles). > > klf-communications(a)arcor.de wrote: > it was not reissued, it was a bootleg > > http://home.arcor.de/klf-communications/116.htm > > http://www.klf.jp.md - Last Update 04.11.2003 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > KLF mailing list > KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > _______________________________________________ > KLF mailing list > KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _____ Do you Yahoo!? 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papers and gasmask
by gene 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

Dan (kuta)gimme your adress . and the reason why the queen in a gasmask is missing is becouse they wer banned and legal action would be taken if they wer shown on the site,,,,thats why when u look on art republic they are missing,they not allowed to show them , out of intrest i tried to find the front page of the times that featured the gasmask queen on the times archive site, i found nout suprise suprise,,,these pages unavailable.

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papers
by gene 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

ok guys ole jc is im me local again with the new release of art....so wot ile do is get some copies lol....(somtimes i wish he lived in a diff town,lol) anyway ile grab some copies....second thing.those whos adresses i got.do u want the whole news paper or can i discard the house selling bits,i ask as a whole paper wighs a fair bit,,2 papers is gonna weigh even more.plz let me know if you would be happy with this ,,if not ile send the whole thing. kk .o ps this means you wont be gettin em for a few more days.

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new art,
by gene 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

its blair innit.looks cool on the webby,but not so good in the large so to speak

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Re: [KLF] new art,,,
by thomas＠klf.de 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

At least the upper (with Bush handshaking with noideawhothatis) has been part of BlackSmoke.org for a while now... --- Thomas Touzimsky

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new art,,,
by gene 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

ok i see that these wer released to coinside with bushes visit.but having looked at them for a whle im afraid i dont like em either.i hope blacksmokes standards dont start to drop to soon ,wot theyve done so far has been top class ,but these pics seem below par .anyway just my opinion,im sure lots will or wont agree.

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