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It's getting stranger @ebay
by Maarten Bouwes 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=898737325 Just wondering who made this one...

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RE: [Orb] Scott Piering tribute with orb/klf
by Phil Blake 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

More info here too: http://capital.nwd42.com/t.asp?N=Ml1s4mv~JMCEEDIEIJOYFGHEBBGGCQVFDHGFGBEAB Phil.

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im back
by Henrik Uddemar 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

Hello ! Is there anybody out there? If you hear me, i just want to say im back on the list, after been away from it for a year or more. I have put up some more files on uddis.linuxgods.com and will update with more music when i find it. Peace /uddis --

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45 4 3
by Jonathan Wakely 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

A remainder bookshop near my office has a few copies of the paperback edition of "45" for sale for Â£3. I'll pick up copies for anyone interested. First come first served. Let me know. jon -- "Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." - 1984, George Orwell

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Bill Drummond @ The Clerkenwell Literary Festival
by Smiley 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

looks like he's being his usual uncontraversial self... http://www.nme.com/news/102209.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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RE: [KLF] Jimmy Cauty meddles with Pink Floyd
by Don Gagen 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

I'm not sure why it's credited to Cauty when this looks like it's part of the series of anonymous bootleg remixes that were released in the mid 90's. At the time people were crediting them to the Orb. I have all but this one, so I have know idea what the quality is like. The others are pretty amateur, and don't even come close to the quality of Cauty/KLF demos that I have. -----Original Message----- From: John [mailto:k@fnord.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:30 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] Jimmy Cauty meddles with Pink Floyd How limited is this release? Sounds great! :-) http://www.sleepbot.com/ambience/page/klf.html Jim Cauty: Meddle - Limited Edition Trance Remix http://www.sleepbot.com/ambience/page/pfloyd.html#MEDDLEX http://www.freezone.co.uk/ewigkeit/biog.htm 'Land Of Fog' was remixed for a better production and is due for release in September 2001. It was finalised by Jimmy at K2 plant hire. Was this second track ever released?!? _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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Jimmy Cauty meddles with Pink Floyd
by John 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

How limited is this release? Sounds great! :-) http://www.sleepbot.com/ambience/page/klf.html Jim Cauty: Meddle - Limited Edition Trance Remix http://www.sleepbot.com/ambience/page/pfloyd.html#MEDDLEX http://www.freezone.co.uk/ewigkeit/biog.htm 'Land Of Fog' was remixed for a better production and is due for release in September 2001. It was finalised by Jimmy at K2 plant hire. Was this second track ever released?!?

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RE: [KLF] Bill Drummond Said
by Don Gagen 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

So, can you buy them online? -----Original Message----- From: John [mailto:k@fnord.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:13 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] Bill Drummond Said This should interest some: http://www.tangents.co.uk/tangents/main/2002/may/drummond.html "I'm now the proud owner of 1/20,000th of a Richard Long artwork. It's a part of The Smell of Sulphur in The Wind, and it cost me a dollar. I bought it from Bill Drummond..." A rather interesting article and nice photo of said item too at: http://www.tangents.co.uk/tangents/main/2002/may/graphics/drummond.jpg Anyone know about this? http://www.juenger.org/essays.php This section contains work which is less academic and more generally accessible in nature, especially work which tends to be appreciative in its readings of Jünger. The following essays are taken from The Prussian Anarchist which will be published by The Penkiln Burn. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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FW: Badorb with Jimmy Cauty!
by Phil Blake 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

Look what just popped up in my inbox-thought I'd better share it with you guys New! The BadOrb Allnighter featuring The ORB + Autolump, Prayerbox & Fusion + DJs Alex Paterson, Cloak & Dagger, Jimmy Cauty, Openalter Sex, Dr D. with more to be announced. Sat 28 Sept OCEAN, Ocean 2 and Ocean 3. 17.50 adv. Doors 9pm - 6am

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article on bill's new book...
by Smiley 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

...can be seen read online in the "arts" section of the electronic telegraph (www.telegraph.co.uk) but you need to be registered to look at it, so the text is below. (btw, the web page provides links to www.klf.de and Mancentral, amongst others). it also says the book is available on the penkiln-burn web site, but i can't find it (although both amazon.co.uk and bol.com both claim they can deliver it withing 2-3 days). ***** The man with money to burn (Filed: 27/06/2002) Bill Drummond, formerly of pop group the KLF, once incinerated Â£1m; now he plans to bury $20,000 in Iceland. Why? He talks to Mick Brown In 1995, to celebrate having burned Â£1 million of his own money in cash (of which more later), Bill Drummond purchased a work by the conceptual artist Richard Long, entitled A Smell of Sulphur in the Wind. The work, incorporating a photograph and text, shows a stone circle, constructed by Long in the course of a walk which he made across Iceland. Bill Drummond: once had to be dissuaded from cutting off his own right hand and tossing it to the audience Drummond paid $20,000 for the work. He hung it on his bedroom wall but eventually grew tired of it, in the way you do. It was then that Drummond decided to do a work of his own. This was the plan: he would sell the Richard Long picture for exactly what he had paid for it, no more and no less. He would make a stout wooden box with a padlock; put the cash in the box; travel to Iceland; walk to the stone circle; dig a hole in the centre and bury the box; step back to the point where he assumes Long took his original photograph, take a new photograph himself and return to England. He would then hang this new work, to be called A Smell of Money Under Ground, on his wall, in the space once occupied by Long's picture, relishing the thought of "those 20,000 greenbacks, rotting to mush". To this end, Drummond is currently travelling around Britain, appearing in local arts and drop-in centres, offering cut-up pieces of the Long work at $1 apiece (American currency only accepted). Response, he says, has been "encouraging". Bill Drummond, who is 48, is a tall, lugubrious man dressed in a flannel work shirt. In the early Nineties he was known for his work with the pop group the KLF, who enjoyed a string of hits before Drummond and his partner Jimmy Cauty dissolved the group at the height of their success, in front of a bewildered audience at the Brit Awards ceremony in 1992. Renaming themselves the K Foundation, Drummond and Cauty achieved yet more notoriety for two gestures: presenting Rachel Whiteread with a cheque for Â£40,000 as "worst British artist" on the night she won the Â£25,000 Turner Prize, and then, most famously, incinerating what appeared to be Â£1 million in cash on the Isle of Jura in front of a handful of bemused witnesses. Art prank? Scam? Political statement? Drummond and Cauty made an agreement at the time never to explain themselves, and they never have. When Drummond first walked into the Anthony D'Offay gallery in 1995, it was to enquire whether Long had done any work in Jura, hoping to buy it as a sort of commemoration of the money-burning. Drummond has long been an enthusiast of Long's work, drawn, he says, by its pastoral themes, its "Zen-like" simplicity and the fact that, like Long, he too is obsessed with walking and with maps. Long, it seemed, had not been to Jura. But when the dealer showed him A Smell of Sulphur in the Wind, Drummond felt an immediate affinity. As a teenager, he and his elder sister had once attempted a walk across Iceland, passing the spot where Long would later create his stone circle. "When I saw the picture, I recognised exactly where it was, so I thought, I'll have that." Having later decided to sell the work, Drummond originally planned to mount an exhibition at a gallery in Bristol. He manufactured a couple of hundred "For Sale" placards as a prop. Then he changed his mind. Selling the work outright, he says, "somehow didn't seem right". To make things more interesting, he decided instead to drive the length of Britain from Southampton to Dounreay posting the "For Sale" placards along the way, at the same time making a "state of the nation" record of his journey - "Although not," he emphasises, "in a Will Hutton kind of way." He has now self-published a book of the journey, How To Be an Artist, which ambles amiably through some of Drummond's more oblique obsessions: nationalism, nuclear power, the enduring appeal of Bob Dylan and the wonders of the humble powan fish, which Drummond believes holds the key to the study of evolution, and which, on one page, he tells us, lives in Loch Leven, and by the next has discovered, to his deep mortification, that it doesn't. The book is illustrated with photographs of the "For Sale" signs, dangling enigmatically from gate-posts, road-signs and the fencing around the Dounreay nuclear power station. The quiet joke is that the signs carry no telephone number or means of contacting Drummond should any passing motorist actually be interested in buying the picture. "Really," says Drummond, "it's just a shallow amusement, but it's an amusement all the same." Nor did he actually manage to sell the picture. The book ends with Drummond dividing it into pieces with a scalpel, in readiness for his current sales drive. Inevitably, perhaps, the one thing the book does not address is the bold manifesto of its title - How To Be an Artist - although a hint is contained in Drummond's ruminations about the Iceland project. Where is the art? he asks rhetorically. "The art lies in the completion of the task, in the knowledge it has been done." Which is about as close to an explanation as Drummond has ever come to giving for any of his work. Looking back over the slash and burn of his career, you could argue that it constitutes a running discourse on the ephemeral nature of pop culture, the vacuity of fame, the commodification of art. You could see his burning of the Â£1 million as a calculated act of heresy in a culture that worships money above all else. "You could do," Drummond agrees evenly, "but I think I'm too close to the centre of what I'm doing to say, well, this is actually what it's all about." The question people always ask about the Â£1 million is, why didn't he give the money to charity instead? And it's a question he is often asked now as he travels around Britain, explaining his plan to bury $20,000 in the middle of a stone circle in Iceland. "The argument doesn't go away, and it's always valid," he says. "And, as yet, I still don't have an answer to it. But I do know I'm not trying to make any sort of ideological point." What you sense, in fact, is that Drummond is a man driven by impulses and obsessions that not even he fully understands. There is another story that on the night the KLF self-combusted at the Brit Awards, Drummond had to be dissuaded by his partner Cauty from cutting off his own right hand and tossing it to the audience, in a near-fatal attack of iconoclasm. "That's true, actually," he says. "It was really just wanting to make an incredible gesture, and not knowing what the gesture was about. And wrapped up in that is a sort of vanity, I suppose. How come you haven't died young or committed suicide to really make that impact in pop music?" He pauses. "I know I'm driven in whatever I do. I know it's very hard to stop myself. But I also know I haven't got a thought-out mission statement." With hindsight, it can be seen that, for Drummond, pop was never a vocation, let alone a life. He never listens to pop music now. When the KLF broke up, he deleted the group's back catalogue to ensure that their records were unavailable, although, happily, he still receives royalties from the publishing. He lives modestly in a farmhouse near Aylesbury with his girlfriend and young children. He drives a battered Land Rover. His principal enthusiasm is writing, most often, it seems, in the cafeteria of a local supermarket. He has never met Richard Long. There was a suggestion some years ago that Drummond should interview him for an arts magazine, but Long apparently declined the invitation. Not that Drummond seems to mind. He says there is nothing he would have wanted to ask him anyway. "As with most artists - and unlike me - he doesn't particularly put himself forward in his work. He's not in the business of telling me what he thinks, and I respect that." Long, for his part, seems cool about Drummond's project to "modify" his stone circle. When I contacted him to ask whether he would discuss the work, he faxed a polite refusal. This contained the phrases "self-publicist with his own agenda" and "chip on his shoulder about the art world", before going on to say that he was aware that Drummond had "literally got a lot of mileage from sampling one of my works which belongs to him". Drummond says he has no idea when he will have finally sold the last sliver of the Richard Long picture and be able to make the pilgrimage across Iceland to bury the greenbacks. But he is looking forward to hanging A Smell of Money Underground on his bedroom wall and, he says, "reinvigorating my relationship with the work". Oh, so that's what it's all about . . . 'How To Be an Artist' is available on www.penkiln-burn.com ***** cheers, --- Smiley __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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