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Re: [KLF] Nessaja 3 a.m.
by The KLF＠ Trancentral 23 Apr '02

23 Apr '02

yeah :) go on... >From: "Thomas Touzimsky" <thomas(a)klf.de> >Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [KLF] Nessaja 3 a.m. >Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:37:03 +0200 > > > Blah, KLF stoled almost every-fucking-thing they did! I dont hear you > > whine about that, but when it's Scooter!!!! BULLSHIT. > >Ahem... "Scooter stoled almost every-fucking-thing they did!" > >Either chords, melodies, samples, lyrics, video clips... almost every >Scooter single that went big was stolen in one way or the other. > >The Age of Love - melody of Terminator theme by Brad Fiedel >Back in the UK - melody of Miss Marple >How much is the fish - melody of an old folk song (german ?) >Posse - bassline of What Time Is Love by James Cauty / William Drummond >Ramp! (the logical song) - melody and vocals of another oldie of which I >forgot the artist >Nessaja - melody and vocals (translated) of a song by Peter Maffay > >Samples / Parts of vocals ("All aboard, all aboard", "Ok everybody lie down >on the floor and keep calm", "Kick out the JAMS", hard drum from What Time >Is Love - and this is just the KLF section!) > >... > >Should I go on ? > > > > I LIKE Scooter's work. I liked them before they sampled any KLF, > > and now I like them even more. I dont give a fuck if Boyzone will > > decide to do a remake of J&A, fuck maybe I'll like that too! > >Now thatÂ´s not the point we are all complaining about. Kerosene did a cover >of 3 a.m. eternal and I think it is brilliant, but they didnÂ´t went out and >entered the charts with it without giving credit to the original artist. > > > > And btw, Kuta, you stoled from the KLF too on your tracks or > > maybe when YOU do it it's ok and you call it SAMPLE. > >See answer above. > >The problem is that Scooter donÂ´t tell that IT IS STOLEN. They go out and >sell it as their own ideas, milking other artists and their work (Brad >Fiedel, Cauty/Drummond, Ultrasonic, ...). The idea for "Hyper Hyper" was a >total rip off, and where would Scooter be nowadays without this piece of >music ? > >NOWHERE. > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf -------------------------------------------- KLF is gonna rock ya, cos you have ta Move to the flow of the beat we blast ya Bass ballistics, I'm gonna kick this hard And you can catch it Down with the cool crew, talking about Mu Mu Justified Ancient Liberation, Zulu Got to teach and everything you learn'll Point to the fact that time is eternal.... _________________________________________________________________ Download MSN Explorer gratis van http://explorer.msn.nl/intl.asp.

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White Room Video
by Hawx 23 Apr '02

23 Apr '02

After downloading and watching this movie, I'm left thinking... "What?" I don't understand :P but I guess that that was all part of Bill Drummond's plan. Or maybe it wasn't supposed to end there, maybe the file just downloaded short or something. Hawx

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RE: [KLF] Auntie Aubrey vol 2
by Don Gagen 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

That makes sense too. -----Original Message----- From: Ulrik Brandt [mailto:moo@odense.kollegienet.dk] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:01 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [KLF] Auntie Aubrey vol 2 At 13:53 22-04-02 -0500, you wrote: This was before there was a clean distinction between the KLF and Orb. That's why it was labeled a KLF remix. I once heard another explanation why it was released as a KLF-mix: The company that put it out simply meant that the name "the KLF" would sell more than "the Orb". Can't remember where I read it (an interview with alex???). Anyway: This is a Cauty related song, written by him, fehlman and sun electric (fisher was a third member), and then remixed by the orb (alex and jimmy), no involvment by Drummond. Ulrik

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RE: [KLF] Auntie Aubrey vol 2
by Ulrik Brandt 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

At 13:53 22-04-02 -0500, you wrote: >This was before there was a clean distinction between the KLF and >Orb. That's why it was labeled a KLF remix. I once heard another explanation why it was released as a KLF-mix: The company that put it out simply meant that the name "the KLF" would sell more than "the Orb". Can't remember where I read it (an interview with alex???). Anyway: This is a Cauty related song, written by him, fehlman and sun electric (fisher was a third member), and then remixed by the orb (alex and jimmy), no involvment by Drummond. Ulrik

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RE: [KLF] Auntie Aubrey vol 2
by Don Gagen 22 Apr '02

22 Apr '02

This was before there was a clean distinction between the KLF and Orb. That's why it was labeled a KLF remix. Bill and Jimmy even wanted to put the Orb on the KLF label, but Alex wanted to them to be separate. The sad thing is that he was so set on this that he signed with WAU! Mr. Modo and Big Life, who basically screwed him out of all the money from their most succesful albums. If he had done that I doubt he'd be in such a bad situation today. Although there is the chance that Bill and Jimmy would have wanted to delete the entire Orb catalog along with all the KLF stuff. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Ulrik Brandt [mailto:moo@odense.kollegienet.dk] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:39 AM > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: [KLF] Auntie Aubrey vol 2 > > > Just got the Orb remix-compilation vol 2. > My version is WITHOUT the KLF-mix, but the cover is identical > to the one at > amazon.co.uk WITH 3am and is released on Ultra Records as UL > 1093-2 (yet > another matrix than any of the two from Amazon.co.uk). > > Anyway this is at least as interresting as the other version > if you are a > KLF-fan, because of this: > > Disc 2., track 3 ( a hidden 23????) is Fischerman Friend's > "Money-orb club > mix" , the one that was (mis)labelled as a KLFmix when it came > out. Checking the credit's for this song you'll see: > (fischer,fehlmann,loderbauer,thiel, CAUTY). > This is the WRITING credit's, not just the REMIX-credits. This seems > like a colleboration between jimmy, sun electric > (loderbauer/thiel), > thomas fehlman and this fischer-guy. > The track is 6.24 long (according to the discography it's only 6.07). > > BTW: This track don't seem to be on the 3-am-version of this > release (it's > hard to a klf-fan) > > > _______________________________________________ > KLF mailing list > KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf >

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Re: [KLF] Bad Scooter
by Hawx 20 Apr '02

20 Apr '02

> I'm Your Pusher video is based on White Room movie :-) This might seem a really dumb question to those in the know... but whatever happened to the White Room movie? Can I get it anywhere? Hawx

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Re: [KLF] Nessaja 3 a.m.
by Daniel Erlemann 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

> > Hmm but 3AM is not the new single or am I wrong!? According to the > > Scooter Homepage the new Single is called Nessaja. > > Exactly Nessaja (3am mix). Isn't that a bit TOO obvious, calling a version "3AM" mix? Goodness... Some day when I have loads of spare time I'll probably make a section called "23 things Scooter stole from the KLF", maybe I'll even have to call it 123 things! Dan --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de)

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3 a.m.
by Torsten Pattberg 19 Apr '02

19 Apr '02

Listen to the new Scooter single. I think I know why they are doing this... They believe that all that 1.000.000 members of this list are going to buy their singles. ;-) Well, I won't. -- Torsten Pattberg www.biglouis.com www.klf.de

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Re: [KLF] Wanda Dee Posing As the KLF..
by Brendan Evans 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

Hi All, reading through webmail at work so if someone's already answered i apologise in advance :-) >> Could be old news, but I thought she couldn't perform >> as the KLF in the states.. > >I thought it was that she could perform as the KLF >in the States, but not in the UK? I thought the US >was where she was doing most of her performing as >the KLF in fact. i dont have access to my archive to confirm that, but certainly it would make more sense that she was allowed to perform as the KLF in america (ie - KLF were british) certainly when she toured Perth (Western Australia, Australia) she was billed as "The KLF". I didnt see her then, and persuaded a lot of my friends into not seeing her (because she's not THE KLF). from memory, the local free entertainment paper (xpress?) had some advertising for her as "The KLF" and i'm semi-sure that the same paper had an update along the lines of "she's not really THE KLF" and a review of the gig possibly, but thats so long ago I cant really be sure I can trust my memories of that time now. I'll try and contact some friends in Perth to see how they remember it when I get home. cheers brendan

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Re: [KLF] 3 a.m.
by The KLF＠ Trancentral 18 Apr '02

18 Apr '02

could someone hook me up with that scooter 3am song? not nessaja :) I mean the one with the real 3 am eternal sample >From: "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk(a)datacomm.ch> >Reply-To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: "klf(a)mailman.xmission.com" <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [KLF] 3 a.m. >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:24:11 +0200 (CDT) > >On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:40:53 +0200, Torsten Pattberg wrote: > > >Listen to the new Scooter single. I think I know why they are doing >this... > >They believe that all that 1.000.000 members of this list are going to >buy > >their singles. ;-) Well, I won't. > >Hmm but 3AM is not the new single or am I wrong!? According to the >Scooter Homepage the new Single is called Nessaja. > >BTW I'm quite sure Scooter read The Manual too :-)) And I have to say >they really know how to make money... > > > >cu > >Adrian > > >-- >Adrian Gschwend >@ OS/2 Netlabs > >ICQ: 22419590 >ktk(a)netlabs.org >------- >The OS/2 OpenSource Project: >http://www.netlabs.org > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf -------------------------------------------- KLF is gonna rock ya, cos you have ta Move to the flow of the beat we blast ya Bass ballistics, I'm gonna kick this hard And you can catch it Down with the cool crew, talking about Mu Mu Justified Ancient Liberation, Zulu Got to teach and everything you learn'll Point to the fact that time is eternal.... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Foto's is de makkelijkste manier om je foto's te delen met anderen en af te drukken: http://photos.msn.nl/Support/WorldWide.aspx

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