October 2002 - KLF - mailman.xmission.com

FTP
by RMStringer 12 Oct '02

12 Oct '02

I am going to open my server to the whole list with the KLF Project login starting at 5 pm CST tomorrow. It will close again at 5 pm CST on Sunday. It is only for 48 hours. Then the ftp will go back to only klf and personal accounts. SO, get what you want over the weekend. Thankx ?????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????

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KLF items for sale!
by Simon Daw 12 Oct '02

12 Oct '02

I've got a couple of KLF items for sale if anybody is interested: http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=jp_8080 (Seemed to be an ideal moment to send this!) Simon

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Forbidding trading (from KLF yahoo group)
by Stuart Bruce 12 Oct '02

12 Oct '02

Because it took me a while to write, I'm going to get value-for-money out of this post I've just sent to the KLF list on Yahoo Groups, and post it here as well... **** --- In klf@y... </group/klf/post?protectID=200128047003196091033082>, Dave Bryant <dave_bryant23@y... </group/klf/post?protectID=114166018056159202218097175101249226068098100046209130>> wrote: > I've become aware of the fact in recent months that a > few people have been joining this list purely to sell > KLF produce to other members by e-mail, or post their > sales on here. I may as well remind everyone now that > I don't particularly like this (and will delete such > posts asap as from now). This is for several reasons: Well, to be honest I completely disagree. I think that for many (not all) KLF fans, the actual collecting of the obscure vinyl and crazy rare items is part of the fun, and I think you should allow people to have the option of trading KLF items if they want to. This being a KLF list and all. Just because you yourself are not a record collector and don't appreciate that part of things (or you just can't afford the items!), I don't see why that means you should stop everybody else from doing it. So let's consider your reasons... > 1/ I can't guarantee the legitimacy of any poster, > especially people who have suddenly emerged out of the > blue. This is a fair concern if you yourself are a buyer, but what you're saying is tantamount to stopping complete strangers from walking into a cheese shop because you think that there is a chance the cheese is mouldy, despite yourself claiming to be a fan of cheese. eBay, as an example, has levels of protection when it comes to unreliable sellers, items that aren't as advertised or legitimate, etc. Let people make up their own mind. > 2/ Auction sites such as e-bay and magazines such as > "Record Collector" (spit) are there for a reason. The > KLF are obviously incredibly collectable, and But what is the harm of posting a *link* to an eBay auction that you have just started? Not everybody has the time to do a search for "KLF" on eBay every three days. > if all > our posts consisted of "I want to sell my copy of > '1987' for £100" it would get to the stage where this > would become nothing more than an auction site Trust me, on the other (frankly bigger & more popular) KLF discussion list that I'm on, anyone is allowed to post auctions & trading information, without any moderation, and it does *not* overtake the amount of other KLF posts. I've never heard of any other list (and I'm on loads!) where trading items of the actual band in question is forbidden. And the reason why nobody else forbids it? Because forbidding it is ridiculous, perhaps? > rather > than a site for people to find out information and > pass on information (and yes, I'm well aware things > have been a bit dead recently, but I will take steps > to rectify this soon!). Well your post about "no sales" certainly seems to have killed things off. > 3/ Off-board spamming (and this is my particular > bug-bear) is intrusive and irritates other > subscribers, and ultimately causes them to leave the > group. This is a completely different issue to that of auctions & trading. If spam-collectors join this list using false names in order to gather e-mail addresses to later spam them (which does happen across Yahoo Groups), what has that got to do with auctions/trading posts? Nothing. > 4/ As a footnote point on a level of personal bias > (which I'm allowed for as long as I moderate here), I > actually don't like the record collecting market. You admit yourself this is personal bias. I happen *to* like the record collecting market. Maybe we should take a vote on it. But if trading of KLF items is forbidden here, what would be the point of staying with this list, when you can just send an e-mail to klf- request(a)mailman.xmission.com with the word "subscribe" in the body of the text, and you'll be subscribed to a more popular and active list? > What makes most KLF sites online great is the fact > that they offer fans the chance to hear music and > watch videos which are otherwise almost impossible to > get hold of. Therefore, if you do have access to an > obscure KLF item, I'd urge you to offer an MP3 link to > others so they can likewise appreciate it. This is > the way things should be. The way things should be are as above, *but* if things are to be truly 'free', then people should be free to share, buy and sell those vinyl or CD items as well if they so choose. > The upper end of the record collecting market is > largely dominated by business folk with their eye on > vinyl as a commodity rather than music lovers - it's > often completely beyond me why white labels attract > more money than (for instance) the fully finished > product with its printed label, sleeve and liner > notes. Right then- you're forbidding record trading because you don't understand or appreciate it. That, of course, is just biased prejudice, not reason. > If such elitist, anal behaviour floats some > people's boat and they have the money to indulge their > whims, then fine. Well you seem to be disagreeing with yourself here. Obviously you *don't* think it's fine, otherwise you wouldn't be forbidding trading notices. Speaking from experience, people don't like moderators who make decisions based on personal opinion rather than group interest. Please reconsider. Not that I've even got any KLF items to trade at the moment, just trying to keep this list sane. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce / Web Video / 0208 348 9566 ext. 2610 07729 164044 / stuart.bruce(a)fameacademy.endemoluk.com -- Stuart Bruce / Web Video / 0208 348 9566 ext. 2610 07729 164044 / stuart.bruce(a)fameacademy.endemoluk.com ______________________________________________________________________ Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ENDEMOL UK plc unless specifically stated. This email and the information it contains are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately and delete the copy you have received from your system. 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Kazza
by mark weston 12 Oct '02

12 Oct '02

Hi, Is anyone out there on the list having trouble with Kazza. I have just reloaded with Kazza Lite, the programe downloaded ok, installed ok, but when you click on the icon it does nothing. Can anyone help here?????? Regards Mark W.

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Server
by RMStringer 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

The Ftp is now open.!!!!!!!!!! :) ?????????? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????

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Greetings
by Paul Jackson-Infarch 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Hi This is my first time on the list so I'm bound to ask things that have been asked before. I've been reading bits of the archives which I've found really interesting. Am very keen on KLF videos such as White Room film which I've always wanted to see plus things like the Barbican gig in 1997. I don't know how possible it is for me to get to download them or obtain copies but if anyone can help or guide me then I'll be very grateful. Thanks P BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.

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Eternity Project One CD
by Drazen Kusic 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

If anyone interested of Eternity Project One CD here is a link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=911395170 My name is Dex and they call me Sky Riding the waves with out heads held high We came from Atlantis on a burning shell with our 808 program to sell. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm

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Re: StreamBox
by Swave 05 Oct '02

05 Oct '02

>Does anybody have any other suggestions as to an alternative to StreaamBox >VCR to capture Streaming Media?? I cannot seem to get another version of >this prog registered. IT keeps screwing up during the registration process. >Please give me any suggestions if you have them. >Thankx There's a progran called Total Recorder, but it records right off the soundcard, so you just get a plain .wav and have the re-encode it again. bye Swave

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ftp account
by Rick Hobo 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Hello, thanks for your fast reply. I'm really interested in an ftp account, so I can start downloading the long awaited movies. Can you send me more detailed information please. Greets Rick

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New
by Rick Hobo 03 Oct '02

03 Oct '02

Hello everyone, I'm new to this list, and I'm hoping for a lot of new things to discover. I'm from Holland, so excuse me if my English isn't perfect. In the past years I found a lot of material on the internet. Both music and some shorter video's, but I'm sure nothing is new to you. Finally I have cable internet, but now I can't find the longer KLF video's (The White Room and Waiting). Can anyone tell me if an online archive is available. Or perhaps it's possible to order some CD-R's with the video's. I'm really looking forward to see these video's. So please, can anyone help me?? Greets Rick

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