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Re: [KLF] bACK ONCE AGAIN...
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

> It´s Black Star Liner´s "Duggie Dohl", available on the Halaal Rock EP. You > might like the track if you like IGUN and Jimmy´s other Scourge of the Earth > mixes. ah that's right. It can be found on the Yemen Cutta Connection cd. Well, *I* found the track unlistenable. :) -paul Currently in rotation: Too Much Joy - Live at Least; Fatboy Slim - Live at the Avalon, Boston

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Re: [KLF] bACK ONCE AGAIN...
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

> So what do we have here? Have I missed anything? Lost sounds... III? Were > there ever any more Kalevela singles or an Album? (annoyingly I lost my > original 7"s when I moved house, and only have a MD recording of the > originals - oh, and MP3's from mancentral) Welcome back. No, nothing new. No more singles and no Bad Wisdom album ever surfaced. Closest thing to a KLF release would be some odd remix tacked onto the end of an album (for the life of me I can't recall whose) which is pretty much unlistenable. might have been Jimmy's AAA track due to it's excessively heavy bass and distortion. Jimmy does remixes as Scourge of the Earth. Bill released a book called 45 which was recently reissued. -paul Currently in rotation: Too Much Joy - Live at Least; Fatboy Slim - Live at the Avalon, Boston

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To reintroduce myself: Martijn
by Martijn Melenhorst 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Hi fellow KLF freaks... I've joined this list already 4 years ago, I guess, and I haven't really bothered mailing a lot, which I intend to change from now on. So, I'm a genuine lurker, I could say. I live in The Netherlands, Deventer, 26 years old, and I think I've got most of the mp3s/jpgs/mpgs available of the KLF. Back in the day when the Fnord archive was still up, I was able to almost completely download it, except for about 300 MB of data. Now I'm filling up the pieces, so that's not really interesting anymore. Last year a friend of mine working at a second-hand record store collected my very first original vinyl singles for me (nothing special, just the comercially well-known released ones), so I'm more and more a real collector, I guess. (Bought the singles for HFL 2.50 = EUR 1.15 = oh well... a piece). Ofcourse I have read the Illuminatus Trilogy. Which was quite a bore, actually, since a conspiracy theory like that already exists for years longer than the book, known as the Egyptian/Gnostic religion being suppressed by the Christian religion. Ofcourse THAT really explains the pyramids etc. Wait! I'm drifting off... Oh well, have fun posting what you want to post, hope I bored no one with my little piece of nonsense...

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Gnostic suppression and how it related to the Illuminatus Trilogy
by Martijn Melenhorst 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Well, it's not really that I'm that deep into that stuff, but reading the Illuminatus Trilogy made me thinking of how conspiracy theories could be set up, and how people could set conspiracy theories up to cover real conspiracies. If you would follow the Illuminatus Trilogy way of thinking, the Illuminatus Trilogy itself is a big cover-up of all gnostic symbols and their meaning, that are, evidently, present in our lives, all over the world, ridiculizing all other theories that ever existed (or would exist in the future back then). For one purpose ofcourse: To stop discussions about a better belief in the world than the current ones, that would make us free and independant of government or any leading party in our lives. The book 'The Celestian Promise' somehow touched this subject, as do many others. The most simple evidence for this, is that the Illuminatus Trilogy grabs symbols of the ancient Egyptian belief, and the beliefs that followed from this, and puts them into the hands of the 'Illuminati', ridiculizing the symbols at the same time (isn't that convenient?). Ofcourse the whole Illuminatus Trilogy is a big "70's policy"-inspired joke, but maybe this was the real message? A better example: The 'eye-in-the-pyramid', ofcourse, is from the ancient Egypt belief, which was ridiculized as a sun-evangelis while it really was a death-evangelis. The 'all-seeing-eye', as it is called in the Trilogy, is ofcourse the all-seeing-eye of their god of life, promising them life-after-death (reincarnation). Now, it's probably not a surprise to all of you that the Trilogy also heavily debates (and eventually believes) in reincarnation. What happened to the Egyptian belief is, that they were suppressed by the Christian belief at some point in history. Christianity itself (or what their belief may have been at that time) eventually taking over their symbols of the reincarnated son of a god (as Maria and Jesus later on) to make people convert to their beliefs. The Egyptian evangelists, back at that time, still had their belief which promised people a good life after death if they tried to find out who they really were. So, instead of scaring people of the 'all-seeing-eye', they advised people to look inside theirselves. This, ofcourse, was of no use to the political leaders at that time, so the Christian evangelis was first adopted to these Egyptian ideas, but NOT TOO MUCH, mind you, then it was slowly changed to make people follow only a few leaders instead of theirselves. This, in effect, would make the Christians the 'Illuminati', and the people following what remained of the old Egyptian belief (much later called the 'free-masons') the JAMMs, although the books loses me there after page 100 or something, and continues ridiculizing itself, atmho. The Trilogy then, also dabbles into the George Washington/Hemp/Pyramid-on-the-dollar-bill theory, which is just a big fake version of the real fact that George Washington was a free-mason himself. The pyramid on the dollar bill is, therefore, not strange at all, seen the text above, and has got nothing to do with 'Illuminati'. The text under the pyramid on the dollar-bill says something like "That a new order may come" (I'm Dutch, so I don't have it with me ofcourse :), which should point to the fact that (time is eternal:), no, to the fact that the suppressed gnostic belief that was the basis of the Egyptian belief will come back some day. And here we finally arrive at the 'Gnostic' word, and I'm sure somewhere in the text above the relation between gnosticism and The Illuminatus Trilogy is explained. It is known that the original Gnostic belief, which is hyped too much these years, amongst others by that same book 'The Celestian Promise', did contain some essential rules for living, which were adopted by the bible (once again) and changed to fit their needs. That's nothing special, since every religion does this in some way or another, but those original scripts vanished from earth a short time after that. Ofcourse it did not vanish out of the minds of it's believers, and another script (of which I currently can not remember the name) was written by one of them containing the most basic rules. It was published in several books a lot of years B.C., which got burned as soon as the ruling parties discovered it's contents. Only some scripts seem to have survived, explaining the free-masons, or so they say. The symbols related to these scripts are seen, these days, to conclude my story, in every powerful place in the world. Ofcourse there's the pyramids themselves in once-powerful Egypt, then there's the pyramid in Paris, France, which was placed there to celebrate it's aniversary. The name 'Paris' being a derived name from one of the gods of the old Egyptian belief, by the way. And I'm not even starting about Napoleon and his common position-with-his-hand, which seems to be a free-mason's gesture of some kind which I can not remember here. Then there's the big pyramid-topped 'tower' in america, which the founder of America is facing all the time... Anyway, I can continue on and on like this, but it seems that the basis for the Illuminatus Trilogy was some paper written by someone, talking about how the original belief (Gnostic) which the Egyptian religion was based on, must have been suppressed by world-leaders for some important reason (oooh, what would that be?) over the past 2500 years or so. Probably this mail does not make much sense, but take it from me that I'm not bothered by this at all. Don't expect me to be obsessed with this shit, it's just something I noticed, and I'm writing it out as I think, since I'm sitting at work and have to be fast. Hope someone can pick this up for me and tell me what I have missed that is so obvious, since it is not really a secret all, just something we are not told about. Greets, Martijn Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com

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Off topic again
by Thomas Touzimsky 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

I tried both CoolEditPro and the MusicMatch Jukebox, but both won´t convert WMA to wav or mp3. What you could try is WinAmp´s disc writer plug-in. I think it comes directly with WinAmp, so there´s no need to download anything. Better guesses anyone ? cy@ c-Row

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Re: [KLF] Off topic again
by Bongdevil＠aol.com 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

if u has a creative soundcard u can download the free playcentre2 program. this doeas all the formats u deirse and much more :) winamp also has the features u wants. and a very helpful forum room hope u gets sorted

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bACK ONCE AGAIN...
by X Kyle M Thompson 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Hi boys and girls, Well I left here about 2.5 years ago when I finished Uni., but I have now returned, armed with a hotmail account to avoid Spam... I was actually subscribed to the old list for a while - but for some reason my mails didn't appear to make it through to the 'list... So what do we have here? Have I missed anything? Lost sounds... III? Were there ever any more Kalevela singles or an Album? (annoyingly I lost my original 7"s when I moved house, and only have a MD recording of the originals - oh, and MP3's from mancentral) Anyone remember me?? (I was at the 2K Fuck The Millennium gig, and the pub afterwards (and before)) as a way of an introductory offer: I've got 90 of the MP3's from mancentral on CD (we've got ADSL here at work - might as well use it!) so if anyone wants a copy then let me know. all the essentials on 1 CD! marvellous! Kyle.

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1,2,3 Trancentral has entered the building :D
by The KLF＠ Trancentral 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

just testing -------------------------------------------- KLF is gonna rock ya, cos you have ta Move to the flow of the beat we blast ya Bass ballistics, I'm gonna kick this hard And you can catch it Down with the cool crew, talking about Mu Mu Justified Ancient Liberation, Zulu Got to teach and everything you learn'll Point to the fact that time is eternal.... _________________________________________________________________ Chat on line met vrienden en probeer MSN Messenger uit: http://messenger.msn.nl

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The "New" List
by Daniel Erlemann 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Hi, so this is the new thing. Cool. Dan --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de)

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RE: (klf) OT: CDV
by laerm 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, John Shepherd wrote: > I found that the only way I could read the multimedia stuff was using an > old PC with CD-ROM DOS drivers installed - the windows CD drivers on the > same machine wouldn't recognise it! ...I ended up copying the entire > data portion via a DOS session (I think it's about 100 - 200 Meg) to > hard disk, dropped back into windows and ran it from hard disk. Pretty > tortuous procedure (and not for the technically illiterate!), but it's > actually worth it - "disk" still puts a lot of todays "enhanced" CDs to > shame! ahh, there's an idea. i've got "disk", too, and have never used the multimedia portion cuz i never got it to work. i will look into this. > An electronics shop near me used to sell the format (this was in the > late 80s) - the only thing I really remember was that the rack of > available titles was laughably small, and they had a demo disk of > madonna permanently fixed in the machine. I seem to recall that Front > 242 released a CDV single (possibly headhunter?) somewhere along the > line too... yep, 242's "headhunter" was a CDV. micah stupak /"\ laerm soulfood.org \ / the world is falling down international bright young kook X and it may as well crash ascii ribbon campaign / \ with me against html email

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