It’s my humble opinion that if the lake continues to go
down at the rate it has for the last several years, dredging would be an
expensive stop gap measure. Should the level drop another 2’ the deep
water channel will no longer be navigable. I feel like the real issues here are
determining acceptable levels for the lake, and work with business and
government to try and maintain an acceptable lake level. I believe more emphasis
should be placed on the water that is allowed to flow into the lake as well as what’s
allowed to be evaporated off. Communities along the Wasatch front as well as
the ski industry should be made aware of the effect the diminishing lake will
have on future drought along the Wasatch front.
Anyhow I love our lake, marina and parks staff, and I truly
believe they do what is in their power to maintain our navigable waters. If we
are truly concerned we should be more involved, as well as informed as to what
is going on with the decisions being made about our jewel in the desert. If you
want to make some noise then I’d suggest you lobby the Great Salt Lake
Advisory Council http://www.gslcouncil.utah.gov/index.htm
. It’s easy to point fingers and say why don’t you do something, it’s
much more difficult to honestly say with conviction what can I do?
Rock Simpson
Sr. Traffic Technician II
C.E.D. Trasportation Division
349 So. 200 E. Ste. #450
S.L.C. Ut. 84111
Phone: 801-535-6630
Fax: 801-535-6019
E-mail: rock.simpson@slcgov.com
From:
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[mailto:gsl-marina-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas
Conroy
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:22 PM
To: 'Michael Downie'; 'David Phillips'
Cc: 'Harbormaster'
Subject: Re: [GSL-Marina] marina issues
Sounds like this group ought to be allied-with and
mutually-supporting http://www.fogsl.org/
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[mailto:gsl-marina-bounces+thomas.conroy=usa.net@mailman.xmission.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Downie
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 6:26 PM
To: David Phillips
Cc: Harbormaster
Subject: Re: [GSL-Marina] marina issues
Could the material removed be placed next to the existing
Marina, perhaps extending the parking lot or creating picnic areas on the
northeastern side, behind the wash station?
As too mooring out deeper, aren't those mooring anchors
stacked up next to Saltair?
Mike Downie
On SunSep 12, 2010, at 5:51 PM, David Phillips wrote:
I just wanted to add my two cents to the debate of wether or
not the Marina staff was actively working to come up with a solution to the
marina dredging question. The answer is yes!! Since I have done work in the
marina for the past three years, and Dave and I spend a good part of every
spring on the phone trying to come up with a workable, cost effective solution
to the water level question, I can attest to Bob and his concern.
The work we have done through dredging or bringing the
'Lucin' down is simply a temporary measure. It is not cheap to do what we have
done so far, but it has been the best we were able to do with the time and
funds allowed. I wish we could do more, but it hasn't been possible so far.
As to the question of cost to dredge the entire marina to an
acceptable depth, 5 mill is not that far off. See, the digging is easy. Getting
rid of what you dig is horribly expensive. The sheer volume of material you
would need to remove from the marina is staggering. You would either need to haul
it away by truck which is an environmental problem with transportation, or take
it far enough out into the lake it can't come back. To accomplish this, you
would need to go at least as far north as Eardly spit runs, at the minimum.
Most likely, a couple miles farther. That will cast a LOT of money to get it
that far. If you don't take it that far out, it will be back in a year or so.
I am not saying all of this to drum up work for our company
either. The type of work we are talking about would need to be done by totally
different types of equipment than what we posses or would desire to have. Yes,
we could support an operation like that, but not do it ourselves.
The statement that the mineral companies should bear some of the cost, I think,
is a good one. I believe that a well thought out, workable proposal, directed
to these companies, could bear fruit. If it was proposed as a 'public service',
to the Lake community of users, with just the right touch of publicity added,
it could work.
Although most people in the marina community do not know me,
I still feel part of your group. I watch you from afar and love this lake as
you do. I have lived on it's shore for 20 years now, and it is a part of me.
When you look out on the lake, I see it in your mirror image.
I firmly believe we are stewards of the world we live in. It
is there to be used, but enjoyed and cared for.
If we care enough and work together without pointing a
finger, it can work, but we must all work together.
David Phillips
Trestlewood
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Dale Clark <sportscar59@msn.com> wrote:
I also agree with the comments made
about Dave and the other marina staff.
Comments:
What about the fact that the state keeps
giving out more rights to companies to mine minerals from the lake. These
companies yield a lot more power with the state congress than us that enjoy the
lake for its beauty and sailing. There is a good chance that the rumor that
these companies control, to the best of their ability, the amount of water that
is allowed to enter the lake or the level of the lake. We may need the lake to
rise like back in the 80’s before we can see the level rise very much.
This just may never happen again.
A couple of ideas:
I’m sure others have thought of
this, but instead of dredging the marina, what about moving at least part of
it, to deeper water; even if we need to fairy back and forth.
Maybe we should ask the mineral
companies to help dredge or move some of the slips. They have the equipment and
want to keep the lake at lower levels.
I believe we can solve this problem for
a lot less than $5 mil or maybe I’m all wet or salty.
Dale
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On Behalf Of iskander@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:58 AM
To: Harbormaster
Subject: [GSL-Marina] marina issues
Ditto to the two comments already made.
Things have improved imeasurably with the marina team we have now. I also
question - $5mil to dredge?
Errol
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