Forgive me for not having begun the book by the time others were already chatting. I enjoyed the book. It delivered, even if I don't think it was the best in the Garret series. I was caught a few times by what I thought was repetitive phrasing, clunky writing if you will; and I was surprised by the crude language. I don't mind it, and often use it far more than my wife would like. I have everything Cook has written, like many on this listing so correct me if I err, but I don't recall there being a lot of F-bombs, etc. especially in Garret. I was melancholy at the end of the book: I can't help but think that Cook was/is drawing Garret to a close. There was considerably more reminiscing than usual by Garret, Morley, Singe, and Dean, with references to just about every major character and not a few past adventures from past novels. The references to aging and time having passed also leads me to that conclusion. 12 books and there hasn't been any of that. Just Garret and co. running around, cavorting, playing, solving problems, etc. I'm reminded of Robert B. Parker's Spenser series where for many novels through the years he continually aged and grew the character through time. But the last several novels he stopped aging the character because clearly Spenser couldn't be a Korean War veteran who had fought Jersey Joe Walcott and still be kicking ass. He had to be ageless, timeless. Why else age Garret? Why else have him resolve the perennial sexual angst with Tinnie? Why else fall in love - with the prospect of kids? Dean makes it clear that he expects Garret to move in with Fearless and be popping out puppies within a year. Think of any PI character in literature or film: they're not happy, sedentary, family men. I'd be interested in your thoughts, Jerry Kalayjian
A year or so after the eleventh book, Whispering Nickel Idols, was published, I read a Glen Cook interview where he had contracted to write two more books, Cruel Zinc Melodies (2008), and Gilden Latten Bones. I would love to see more Garrett P.I. books but I have a feeling Gilden Latten Bones may be the last of the books in this series. I sure hope not. Dipi From: glencook-fans-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:glencook-fans-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Kalayjian Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:19 PM To: glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end? Forgive me for not having begun the book by the time others were already chatting. I enjoyed the book. It delivered, even if I don't think it was the best in the Garret series. I was caught a few times by what I thought was repetitive phrasing, clunky writing if you will; and I was surprised by the crude language. I don't mind it, and often use it far more than my wife would like. I have everything Cook has written, like many on this listing so correct me if I err, but I don't recall there being a lot of F-bombs, etc. especially in Garret. I was melancholy at the end of the book: I can't help but think that Cook was/is drawing Garret to a close. There was considerably more reminiscing than usual by Garret, Morley, Singe, and Dean, with references to just about every major character and not a few past adventures from past novels. The references to aging and time having passed also leads me to that conclusion. 12 books and there hasn't been any of that. Just Garret and co. running around, cavorting, playing, solving problems, etc. I'm reminded of Robert B. Parker's Spenser series where for many novels through the years he continually aged and grew the character through time. But the last several novels he stopped aging the character because clearly Spenser couldn't be a Korean War veteran who had fought Jersey Joe Walcott and still be kicking ass. He had to be ageless, timeless. Why else age Garret? Why else have him resolve the perennial sexual angst with Tinnie? Why else fall in love - with the prospect of kids? Dean makes it clear that he expects Garret to move in with Fearless and be popping out puppies within a year. Think of any PI character in literature or film: they're not happy, sedentary, family men. I'd be interested in your thoughts, Jerry Kalayjian
There has been change, politically and socially, through the books. Maybe Garret is finally catching up with society :-) I think for the character to evolve he does need to age and change and find new priorities. Garret with kids might prove for some interesting episodes - or the series could jump back in time and cover things in Garrets past. Either way, I hope this wasn't the last. I don't feel there is closure with the characters yet. How will Tinnie react to Garret's finding a new babe - how will Belinda take it? Is FTL just messing about in everyone's head? Will it turn out that they are all her puppets - and the Goddamn Parrot's son flies in to save the day? Michele
From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:19:00 PM Subject: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end?
Forgive me for not having begun the book by the time others were already chatting.
I enjoyed the book. It delivered, even if I don't think it was the best in the Garret series. I was caught a few times by what I thought was repetitive phrasing, clunky writing if you will; and I was surprised by the crude language. I don't mind it, and often use it far more than my wife would like. I have everything Cook has written, like many on this listing so correct me if I err, but I don't recall there being a lot of F-bombs, etc. especially in Garret.
I was melancholy at the end of the book: I can't help but think that Cook was/is drawing Garret to a close.
There was considerably more reminiscing than usual by Garret, Morley, Singe, and Dean, with references to just about every major character and not a few past adventures from past novels. The references to aging and time having passed also leads me to that conclusion. 12 books and there hasn't been any of that. Just Garret and co. running around, cavorting, playing, solving problems, etc.
I'm reminded of Robert B. Parker's Spenser series where for many novels through the years he continually aged and grew the character through time. But the last several novels he stopped aging the character because clearly Spenser couldn't be a Korean War veteran who had fought Jersey Joe Walcott and still be kicking ass. He had to be ageless, timeless.
Why else age Garret? Why else have him resolve the perennial sexual angst with Tinnie? Why else fall in love - with the prospect of kids? Dean makes it clear that he expects Garret to move in with Fearless and be popping out puppies within a year. Think of any PI character in literature or film: they're not happy, sedentary, family men.
I'd be interested in your thoughts,
Jerry Kalayjian
I hope you're right, Michele. I'd enjoy more. As to Belinda, she and Morley sure seemed very much in love as well - another sign of the Garrett universe apocalypse, in my book. I don't think she was missing Garrett at all. The end just seemed like everyone passing through for one last cameo with a warm lighting and rising music as the credits begin to roll. I do hope you're right. --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end? To: "Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author" <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 2:36 PM There has been change, politically and socially, through the books. Maybe Garret is finally catching up with society :-) I think for the character to evolve he does need to age and change and find new priorities. Garret with kids might prove for some interesting episodes - or the series could jump back in time and cover things in Garrets past. Either way, I hope this wasn't the last. I don't feel there is closure with the characters yet. How will Tinnie react to Garret's finding a new babe - how will Belinda take it? Is FTL just messing about in everyone's head? Will it turn out that they are all her puppets - and the Goddamn Parrot's son flies in to save the day? Michele From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:19:00 PM Subject: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end? Forgive me for not having begun the book by the time others were already chatting. I enjoyed the book. It delivered, even if I don't think it was the best in the Garret series. I was caught a few times by what I thought was repetitive phrasing, clunky writing if you will; and I was surprised by the crude language. I don't mind it, and often use it far more than my wife would like. I have everything Cook has written, like many on this listing so correct me if I err, but I don't recall there being a lot of F-bombs, etc. especially in Garret. I was melancholy at the end of the book: I can't help but think that Cook was/is drawing Garret to a close. There was considerably more reminiscing than usual by Garret, Morley, Singe, and Dean, with references to just about every major character and not a few past adventures from past novels. The references to aging and time having passed also leads me to that conclusion. 12 books and there hasn't been any of that. Just Garret and co. running around, cavorting, playing, solving problems, etc. I'm reminded of Robert B. Parker's Spenser series where for many novels through the years he continually aged and grew the character through time. But the last several novels he stopped aging the character because clearly Spenser couldn't be a Korean War veteran who had fought Jersey Joe Walcott and still be kicking ass. He had to be ageless, timeless. Why else age Garret? Why else have him resolve the perennial sexual angst with Tinnie? Why else fall in love - with the prospect of kids? Dean makes it clear that he expects Garret to move in with Fearless and be popping out puppies within a year. Think of any PI character in literature or film: they're not happy, sedentary, family men. I'd be interested in your thoughts, Jerry Kalayjian -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ glencook-fans mailing list glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/glencook-fans
Just because Belinda has hooked onto Morley does not mean she will be happy about Garret and FTL First off, Belinda is psycho. Second, it might not be that Garret had found love, but who with, that bugs her. And, Morley might get bored and dump Belinda - or get forced into marrying his Dark Elf betrothed (or did he definitely get out of that?) and leave Belinda at loose ends.... ;-)
From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 2:48:00 PM Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end?
I hope you're right, Michele. I'd enjoy more.
As to Belinda, she and Morley sure seemed very much in love as well - another sign of the Garrett universe apocalypse, in my book. I don't think she was missing Garrett at all. The end just seemed like everyone passing through for one last cameo with a warm lighting and rising music as the credits begin to roll. I do hope you're right.
--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end? To: "Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author" <glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 2:36 PM
There has been change, politically and socially, through the books. Maybe Garret is finally catching up with society :-)
I think for the character to evolve he does need to age and change and find new priorities. Garret with kids might prove for some interesting episodes - or the series could jump back in time and cover things in Garrets past. Either way, I hope this wasn't the last. I don't feel there is closure with the characters yet. How will Tinnie react to Garret's finding a new babe - how will Belinda take it? Is FTL just messing about in everyone's head? Will it turn out that they are all her puppets - and the Goddamn Parrot's son flies in to save the day?
Michele
From: Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> To: glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 12:19:00 PM Subject: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end?
Forgive me for not having begun the book by the time others were already chatting.
I enjoyed the book. It delivered, even if I don't think it was the best in the Garret series. I was caught a few times by what I thought was repetitive phrasing, clunky writing if you will; and I was surprised by the crude language. I don't mind it, and often use it far more than my wife would like. I have everything Cook has written, like many on this listing so correct me if I err, but I don't recall there being a lot of F-bombs, etc. especially in Garret.
I was melancholy at the end of the book: I can't help but think that Cook was/is drawing Garret to a close.
There was considerably more reminiscing than usual by Garret, Morley, Singe, and Dean, with references to just about every major character and not a few past adventures from past novels. The references to aging and time having passed also leads me to that conclusion. 12 books and there hasn't been any of that. Just Garret and co. running around, cavorting, playing, solving problems, etc.
I'm reminded of Robert B. Parker's Spenser series where for many novels through the years he continually aged and grew the character through time. But the last several novels he stopped aging the character because clearly Spenser couldn't be a Korean War veteran who had fought Jersey Joe Walcott and still be kicking ass. He had to be ageless, timeless.
Why else age Garret? Why else have him resolve the perennial sexual angst with Tinnie? Why else fall in love - with the prospect of kids? Dean makes it clear that he expects Garret to move in with Fearless and be popping out puppies within a year. Think of any PI character in literature or film: they're not happy, sedentary, family men.
I'd be interested in your thoughts,
Jerry Kalayjian
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I don't think Glen really has too much of a plan for his books, instead, he writes them and the process takes him on a journey to the conclusion. He isn't sure himself what will happen, until he gets there. Sometimes the conclusion is better than others, but the overall haphazard process is what lets him write novels that seem so true to life, even if they are set in imaginary worlds. In this case, Tinnie sort of became an afterthought, as Garrett and Glen became swept away by Furious Tide of Light. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just because Belinda has hooked onto Morley does not mean she will be happy about Garret and FTL
First off, Belinda is psycho.
Second, it might not be that Garret had found love, but who with, that bugs her. And, Morley might get bored and dump Belinda - or get forced into marrying his Dark Elf betrothed (or did he definitely get out of that?) and leave Belinda at loose ends....
;-)
*From:* Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> *To:* Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author < glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> *Sent:* Sun, December 5, 2010 2:48:00 PM
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I hope you're right, Michele. I'd enjoy more.
As to Belinda, she and Morley sure seemed very much in love as well - another sign of the Garrett universe apocalypse, in my book. I don't think she was missing Garrett at all. The end just seemed like everyone passing through for one last cameo with a warm lighting and rising music as the credits begin to roll. I do hope you're right.
--- On *Sun, 12/5/10, Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com>* wrote:
From: Michele Riccio <mishka_30@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end? To: "Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author" < glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 2:36 PM
There has been change, politically and socially, through the books. Maybe Garret is finally catching up with society :-)
I think for the character to evolve he does need to age and change and find new priorities. Garret with kids might prove for some interesting episodes - or the series could jump back in time and cover things in Garrets past. Either way, I hope this wasn't the last. I don't feel there is closure with the characters yet. How will Tinnie react to Garret's finding a new babe - how will Belinda take it? Is FTL just messing about in everyone's head? Will it turn out that they are all her puppets - and the Goddamn Parrot's son flies in to save the day?
Michele
*From:* Jerry Kalayjian <jkalayjian@yahoo.com> *To:* glencook-fans@mailman.xmission.com *Sent:* Sun, December 5, 2010 12:19:00 PM *Subject:* [Glencook-fans] Gilden Latten Bones: the end?
Forgive me for not having begun the book by the time others were already chatting.
I enjoyed the book. It delivered, even if I don't think it was the best in the Garret series. I was caught a few times by what I thought was repetitive phrasing, clunky writing if you will; and I was surprised by the crude language. I don't mind it, and often use it far more than my wife would like. I have everything Cook has written, like many on this listing so correct me if I err, but I don't recall there being a lot of F-bombs, etc. especially in Garret.
I was melancholy at the end of the book: I can't help but think that Cook was/is drawing Garret to a close.
There was considerably more reminiscing than usual by Garret, Morley, Singe, and Dean, with references to just about every major character and not a few past adventures from past novels. The references to aging and time having passed also leads me to that conclusion. 12 books and there hasn't been any of that. Just Garret and co. running around, cavorting, playing, solving problems, etc.
I'm reminded of Robert B. Parker's Spenser series where for many novels through the years he continually aged and grew the character through time. But the last several novels he stopped aging the character because clearly Spenser couldn't be a Korean War veteran who had fought Jersey Joe Walcott and still be kicking ass. He had to be ageless, timeless.
Why else age Garret? Why else have him resolve the perennial sexual angst with Tinnie? Why else fall in love - with the prospect of kids? Dean makes it clear that he expects Garret to move in with Fearless and be popping out puppies within a year. Think of any PI character in literature or film: they're not happy, sedentary, family men.
I'd be interested in your thoughts,
Jerry Kalayjian
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