I just noticed that the fractint list archives are back. I haven't checked to see if there are any gaps. That's good news. At one point I called xmission support, and never got a person, but did get a message about a server down, and a high volume of support requests. If anyone is so inclined have a look and let us know if the archives are complete. I'll do it when I have some time if no one beats me to it. Tim