Hi, here is a deep zoom, which definetly is worth waiting, I think. Fractal greetings, Al. ------------------------------start-par---------------------------------- Julia_dream { ; Time 2.01.04.11 ; Albrecht Niekamp May, 03 ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 5 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=mult239.frm formulaname=multifractal ismand=n function=sin/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=+0.01280533739168685/+0.78163092899207910/8375.587/1/2.499999\ 99998589262/1.41729405989110546e-011 params=-0.1738944669942329/-0.3000579851680044/768.00001/256.1133/3072.0\ 0016/768.0003200000001/768.0076800000001/64.01024/13977.52/5 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=7 periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 colors=200888<20>iiijjjlll<3>sss<25>BBB999777<2>222000012<24>0bo0cq0es<2\
0jy0kz0jy<24>09C08A068<2>022000211<24>oiQqjRslS<3>zsX<25>CB7A96875<3>00\ 0400<23>o00q00s00<3>z00<25>C00A00800<3>000<3>777 } -------------------------------start-frm----------------------------------- FRM:Multifractal { ; Albrecht Niekamp 13.3.03 ;only integers as first input, second input 5 digits to the right ;real(p2) factor1,border1 ;imag(p2) (-)maxiter1,input bas.frm1_2digits input bas.frm2_2digits ;real(p3) bailout,hyb.mandel: number of sides (Many_mods L.Allison) ;imag(p3) factor2,border2 ;real(p4) maxiter2,factor3 ;imag(p4) border3,maxiter3 ;real(p5) 1digit_shape only 5digits: shape,out1,out2,in1,in2 ; 1_mand 2_jul 3_hyb.mand 4_hyb.jul +5_reset (not shape) <0_no in/out1 ; optional basic frm2: out-nbr 1digit in-nbr 1digit 3_both +5_shape ;imag(p5) 1digit : 1_iter1reset 2_iter2reset 3_both +5_shape effect ; 2digits : many_mods multipl.shutoff +10_in/out1 +20_in/out2 +30_both ; optional input2: frequency_2digits level_2digits amplitude_2digits ; d=real(p2) fac1=trunc(d) b1=(d-fac1)*100000 ; d=imag(p2) da=d<0 if (da) d=-d endif mi1=trunc(d) d=round((d-mi1)*10000) p6=trunc(d/100)/10 d=d-1000*p6 if (da) p6=-p6 endif p7=d/10 ; d=real(p3) ba=trunc(d) mm=round((d-ba)*100000) ; d=imag(p3) fac2=trunc(d) b2=(d-fac2)*100000 ; d=real(p4) mi2=trunc(d) fac3=round((d-mi2)*100000) ; d=imag(p4) b3=trunc(d) mi3=round((d-b3)*100000) ; da=real(p5) t=da<0 if (t) da=-da endif start=2-t dd=trunc(da) if (dd<5) start=0 endif vb=(dd==3)+(dd==4) da=round((da-dd)*100) d=trunc(dd/10000) vb=(d==3)+(d==4)+vb dd=dd-d*10000 d=trunc(dd/1000) or1=d>5 d=d-5*or1 vv1=(d==3) vv2=(d==4) dd1=(d==2)+(d==4) dd=dd-d*1000 d=trunc(dd/100) or2=d>5 d=d-5*or2 vv3=(d==3) vv4=(d==4) dd2=(d==2)+(d==4) dd=dd-d*100 d=trunc(dd/10) inr1=d>5 d=d-5*inr1 v1=(d==3) v2=(d==4) d1=(d==2)+(d==4) dd=dd-10*d d=trunc(dd) inr2=d>5 d=d-5*inr2 v3=(d==3) v4=(d==4) d2=(d==2)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/10) da=da-10*d ab=d>=5 d=d-5*ab bb1=(d==1) bb2=(d==2) dd=da>=5 da=da-5*dd ab=ab+dd ab1=(da==1) ab2=(da==2) ; d=imag(p5) dd=trunc(d) d=round((d-dd)*1000000) le=d>10000 da=trunc(dd/10) so1=((da==1)+(da==3)==0) so2=((da==2)+(da==3)==0) dd=dd-10*da wo=dd>=5 dd=dd-5*wo ir1=(dd==1)+(dd==3) ir2=(dd==2)+(dd==3) if (le) freq=round((trunc(d/10000))*10) ;frequency_lake effect by S.Gallet d=d-freq*1000 level=(trunc(d/100))/100 ;water level d=d-level*10000 ampl=d/100 ;amplitude of the wave u=real(rotskew*pi/180) t=exp(-flip(u)) bo=1/real(magxmag) q=bo/0.75*imag(magxmag) dd=tan(imag(rotskew*pi/180)) d3=2*q*t rs=2*bo*(dd+flip(1))*t z2=center+(-q-bo*dd-flip(bo))*t z=pixel-z2 d=imag(conj(d3)*z)/imag(conj(d3)*rs) if (d<=level) da=level-d z=z+2*da*(1+ampl*sin(freq*da^0.2))*rs endif z=z+z2 endif if (ismand) if (vb) c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) z=z*le else c=z*le+pixel*(le==0) z=0 endif else c=p1 z=z*le+pixel*(le==0) endif t=0 d3=(ismand==0) u=d3 : if (vb) if (d3) z=(z*z-real(c))^(z*u+imag(c)) else z2=fn1(z)+c ;Linda Allison q=cos(z2) z=c*(1-q)/(1+q) endif elseif (ab) z=z*z+c+c*c-p7 ;Pusk s Istv n elseif (d3) z2=z*z z=z2*z2+(p6+u)*z2+c else z2=z*z ;Pusk s Istv n z=z2*z2+(p6+u)*z2+c-p1 endif bo=|z| If (wo) t=t+1 if ((t<mi1)+(bo>b1)) u=2*(fn1(t/fac1)) if (ismand) z=z*u if (vb) c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) else c=z*le+pixel*(le==0) endif else z=z*le+pixel*(le==0) c=p1*u endif wo=0 if (ir1) t=0 endif endif elseif (start) t=t+1 if (start==2) if (bo>b2) u=2*(fn2(t/fac2)) rs=or1 ab=bb1 if (dd1) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=vv2 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=vv1 if (vb) if (so1) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif start=1 endif elseif (t>mi2) u=2*(fn2(t/fac2)) rs=inr1 ab=ab1 if (d1) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=v2 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=v1 if (vb) if (so1) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif endif start=1 if (ir2) t=0 endif endif elseif (bo>b3) u=2*(fn3(t/fac3)) ab=bb2 rs=or2 if (dd2) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=vv4 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=vv3 if (vb) if (so2) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif start=0 endif elseif (t>mi3) u=2*(fn3(t/fac3)) ab=ab2 rs=inr2 if (d2) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=v4 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=v3 if (vb) if (so2) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif endif start=0 endif endif bo<=ba } --------------------------------------------end---------------------------
I am pleased to announce my first multifractal gallery: in English : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/lsmultifrace.htm in French : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/lsmultifracf.htm I also thank Sylvie Gallet for hosting the gallery. And I also thank Al Niekamp for providing the formula that made these images possible. The gallery has 30 images. Each can viewed at either 640x480 or 1600x1200. Lee Skinner
I also thank Sylvie Gallet for hosting the gallery.
And we can thank Damien Jones for hosting my site. - Sylvie _________ ________ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ E-mail address: sylvie.gallet1@libertysurf.fr Web site: in English : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepage.htm in French : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepagf.htm _________ ________ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _
Beau site ! Belles fractales !! Inspirant. RG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvie Gallet" <sylvie.gallet1@libertysurf.fr> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 18:14 Subject: Re: [Fractint] Multifractal
I also thank Sylvie Gallet for hosting the gallery.
And we can thank Damien Jones for hosting my site.
- Sylvie
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E-mail address: sylvie.gallet1@libertysurf.fr Web site: in English : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepage.htm in French : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepagf.htm _________ ________ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _
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Beau site ! Belles fractales !!
Merci ! - Sylvie _________ ________ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ E-mail address: sylvie.gallet1@libertysurf.fr Web site: in English : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepage.htm in French : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/homepagf.htm _________ ________ _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _
Hi, On Thursday 22 May 2003 23:48, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
I am pleased to announce my first multifractal gallery:
in English : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/lsmultifrace.htm
in French : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/lsmultifracf.htm
I also thank Sylvie Gallet for hosting the gallery. And I also thank Al Niekamp for providing the formula that made these images possible.
The gallery has 30 images. Each can viewed at either 640x480 or 1600x1200.
Lee Skinner
Nice! I'm using xfractint, at the moment it is still impossible to really explore formulas and pars. No color cycling, no colormap editing, no colormap loading. I can change the colors by using a parfile with just the color entries. But even then, the new colors cause xfractint to recalculate the image, which is sometimes just annoying, but sometimes becomes very frustating. So I'll make do with visiting galleries and reproducing posted pars instead of displaying pictures and posting pars :( Greetings, Natalie -- aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
Natalie wrote:
Nice. I'm using xfractint, at the moment it is still impossible to really explore formulas and pars. No color cycling, no colormap editing, no colormap loading. I can change the colors by using a parfile with just the color entries. But even then, the new colors cause xfractint to recalculate the image, which is sometimes just annoying, but sometimes becomes very frustrating.
So I'll make do with visiting galleries and reproducing posted pars instead of displaying pictures and posting pars :( << :-(( That would certainly frustrate the hell out of me. (BTW, thanks for visiting my gallery (also Bill Rossi, Richard Giroux and Mike Traynor) for their comments. ) Can you not install a program that lets you use multiple operating systems chosen at startup? Then use either Win98 or DOS. I've never used xfractint, but maybe someone here who does could give you some tips if they have overcome these problems.
Here are 10 more pars (not in my current gallery) using the original multifractal formula. I haven't started using the multifractal_1 formula yet. - Lee 6ascp018 { ; Boomerangs ; t= 0:04:17.11 on a P4 2Gh at ; 1600x1200 Image Copyright 2003 ; by Lee H. Skinner ver=2002 ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 5 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=multifractal ismand=y function=exp/sin/exp passes=1 center-mag=-1.36208183737766100/-0.74521654600613400/\ 6265663/1/75.0000000342290889/-3.27422325016590854e-0\ 08 params=-0.1740997192297128/-0.2996141087069308/384.00\ 004/256.1106/4096.00016/768.00009/768.01536/128.01025\ /28984.5/0 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=10 symmetry=none periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 cyclerange=2/255 colors=000000a5IW4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805G0BO0G<3>g\ 0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3>c5eZ6`\ U6X<2>F9LAAG7FO4KW0Qc<3>5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<3>FcgHciJb\ l<3>S_v<3>civflvinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovzhsw<3>Gch8\ _d8Xa<3>8JP8FL8CI<4>XCAaB9fB7<3>zA0<13>SA1QA1NA1<3>D9\ 2<6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI<3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJoSFlWAi_\ 5fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0<2>zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>Mb8<3>\ LQ8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF<3>qe\ BriAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<8>zY4zV5zS5<3>zE6wE6tD6<10>w8P\ x8Rx7S<3>z5_<3>f5M } 6east002 { ; Kayak Landing ; t= 2:12:30.69 on a P4 2Gh at ; 1600x1200 Image Copyright 2003 ; by Lee H. Skinner ver=2002 ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 5 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=multifractal ismand=y function=exp/exp/exp passes=1 center-mag=1.40842/0.11277/10.23581 params=-0.8940855128635518/0.8105868709372235/384.000\ 01/256.1133/2048.00008/768.0003400000001/768.01536/25\ 60.01025/18934.5/5 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=7 symmetry=none periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 cyclerange=2/255 colors=000000oNIzb0<2>zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>Mb8<\ 3>LQ8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF<3>\ qeBriAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<8>zY4zV5zS5<3>zE6wE6tD6<10>w\ 8Px8Rx7S<3>z5_<3>f5Ma5IW4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805G0B\ O0G<3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3\
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6flym008 { ; Spiny Mandelbrot ; t= 3:12:38.37 on a P4 2Gh at ; 1600x1200 Image Copyright 2003 ; by Lee H. Skinner ver=2002 ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 5 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=multifractal ismand=y function=exp/exp/exp passes=1 center-mag=-0.31994180525694320/-0.58314358304586380/\ 34007.95/1/-167.500000000087454/1.14373129023181974e-\ 010 params=-0.2724234748374889/0.09260841700491348/384.00\ 001/256.1113/2048.00008/768.00004/1025.01536/2560.015\ 36/18115.11/0 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=4 symmetry=none periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 cyclerange=2/255 colors=000000K2A<3>805G0BO0G<3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>y0fz0gy\ 0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3>c5eZ6`U6X<2>F9LAAG7FOGIW0Nc\ 1Qj2Tz3Vc5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<3>FcgHciJbl<3>S_v<3>civfl\ vinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovzhsw<3>Gch8_d8Xa<3>8JP8FL8\ CI<4>XCAaB9fB7<3>zA0<13>SA1QA1NA1<3>D92<6>UXAW`BYcC<3\
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6judr006 { ; Raining Cats and Dogs ; t= 2:23:28.86 on a P4 2Gh at ; 1600x1200 Image Copyright 2003 ; by Lee H. Skinner ver=2002 ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 5 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=multifractal ismand=n function=sin/exp/sin passes=1 center-mag=0.232972/0.761611/13.55881/1/17.4999999999\ 999751/7.67164110015983169e-014 params=-0.1738944669942329/-0.3000579851680044/768.00\ 001/256.1133/3072.00016/768.0003200000001/768.0076800\ 000001/64.01024/13977.52/5 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 cyclerange=2/255 colors=0000008CI<4>XCAaB9fB7<3>zA0<13>SA1QA1NA1<3>D92\ <6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI<3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJoSFlWAi_5\ fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0<2>zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>Mb8<3>L\ Q8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF<3>qeB\ riAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<8>zY4zV5zS5<3>zE6wE6tD6<10>w8Px\ 8Rx7S<3>z5_<3>f5Ma5IW4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805G0BO0G\ <3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3>c5\ eZ6`U6X<2>F9LAAG7FO4KW0Qc<3>5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<3>FcgH\ ciJbl<3>S_v<3>civflvinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovzhsw<3>\ Gch8_d8Xa<4>8FL } 6judr008 { ; Tokyo Disneyland ; t= 2:34:06.43 on a P4 2Gh at ; 1600x1200 Image Copyright 2003 ; by Lee H. Skinner ver=2002 ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 5 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=fractint.frm formulaname=multifractal ismand=n function=sin/exp/sin passes=1 center-mag=0.135023/0.913378/21.18564/1/10.0000000000\ 000906/-5.05012698326368081e-014 params=-0.1738944669942329/-0.3000579851680044/768.00\ 001/256.1133/3072.00016/768.0003200000001/768.0076800\ 000001/64.01024/13977.52/5 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 cyclerange=2/255 colors=0000008QV<3>8CI<4>XCAaB9fB7<3>zA0<13>SA1QA1NA1\ <3>D92<6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI<3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJoSF\ lWAi_5fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0<2>zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>M\ b8<3>LQ8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF\ <3>qeBriAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<8>zY4zV5zS5<3>zE6wE6tD6<1\ 0>w8Px8Rx7S<3>z5_<3>f5Ma5IW4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805\ G0BO0G<3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2\ u<3>c5eZ6`U6X<2>F9LAAG7FO4KW0Qc<3>5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<\ 3>FcgHciJbl<3>S_v<3>civflvinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovz\ hsw<4>8_d8Xa8TZ } 6judr010 { ; Oil Under the Sea ; t= 2:55:35.60 on a P4 2Gh at ; 1600x1200 Image Copyright 2003 ; by Lee H. 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Hi, On Saturday 24 May 2003 17:36, Lee H. Skinner wrote: [snip]
:-(( That would certainly frustrate the hell out of me.
Yeah, it really is frustrating :(
(BTW, thanks for visiting my gallery (also Bill Rossi, Richard Giroux and Mike Traynor) for their comments. )
Can you not install a program that lets you use multiple operating systems chosen at startup? Then use either Win98 or DOS. I've never used xfractint, but maybe someone here who does could give you some tips if they have overcome these problems.
I had a dual boot system when I first switched from DOS6.22/Win310 to Linux. Problem then was that DOS was either too old for the hardware or the hardware was too new for DOS. I've never used Win98. I'll just wait for the next version of xfractint. In the meantime I use some other fractal generators for Linux, they all have nice features, but I still miss the features of fractint. Greetings, Natalie -- Red Hat Linux 7.1 OOo 1.0.1 NL - OOo 1.0.2 EN aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Natalie wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2003 17:36, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
[...] Can you not install a program that lets you use multiple operating systems chosen at startup? Then use either Win98 or DOS. I've never used xfractint, but maybe [...]
I hope this may help: I find much easier to use the DOS Fractint under DOSEMU (the dos emulator for linux). Fractint runs somewhat slower (not very much, but I've never timed how much) than in a native dos/win98 environment, but it's a good compromise since I don't have to reboot my machine, and I can let fractals generate in the background while I'm working. Cheers Piero
Piero wrote:
I hope this may help: I find much easier to use the DOS Fractint under DOSEMU (the dos emulator for linux).
This is very interesting. Could you add a little step-by-step information on how to do this? I've never used dosemu. I guess I'm being lazy, I could probably figure this out, but I thought I'd ask :-) Tim
On Mon, 26 May 2003, Tim Wegner wrote:
This is very interesting. Could you add a little step-by-step information on how to do this? I've never used dosemu.
ok.. this is a short howto.. What I'll say has been tested on Mandrake (7.1 and 7.2) and RedHat 8.0 feel free to ask for any further info.. cheers, Piero FRACTINT+DOSEMU I. Downloading the pieces you need are: - the emulator (dosemu) - a dos operating system (drdos) dosemu is usually found as part of any linux distribution, so it is likely that it's already installed, or that you can find it on the linux CDs or on rpmfind.net thus, just download the rpm and install it downloading the DOS is trickier. You can use either a working dos partition, or a simulated one living in a (small) file in your linux filesystem. I use the second method, having a "hard drive image" (hdimage in the following) as /var/lib/dosemu/hdimage_etc_etc. I use a DRDOS hdimage. DRDOS has a long story, but since the end of the dos age it has been owned by several companies. A drdos hdimage was released a few years ago by Caldera. More on this later, but *now* please go to this page: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/261403/idpa/261403 and download this file: drdos-hdimage-eval-7.03-4.i386.rpm II. Installing after rpm'ing the dosemu and the hdimage, the files that matter are: /etc/dosemu.conf /etc/dosemu.users /var/lib/dosemu/global.conf /var/lib/dosemu/hdimage.drdos703.eval global.conf won't require any tuning. But you have to edit dosemu.users and add your username and the privileges that you'd like to have. Just add a line saying: your_username c_all where c_all means that you will have root privileges. It's not an elegant solution, but it's the easiest way to make things run ;) N.B. You won't need to log in as root. But, your DOS shell will do have root privileges. So be careful... Then also edit dosemu.conf and look for the line beginning with: $_hdimage = "xxxx" and replace the xxxx with the name of your hdimage (hdimage.drdos703.eval in this case). If something goes wrong, just tell me and I'll provide the conf files which run on my machine. III. Running download the dos fractint and install in a directory of your choice in your linux filesystem then just say: "xdos" at your shell's prompt and a dos window should open (I assume you're running X...) you'll find yourself at the C> prompt, just give the command: L: and you will be transported to the linux filesystem. It'll be like looking at linux with a sort of DOS glasses ;) All the linux filesystem will be mapped on the DOS L: drive. So you will have to chdir to \home\yourself\etcetera. Now just chdir to the fractint directory and start the program. IV. Discussion (about licenses and hdimages and other boring stuff) I've tried to be as short as possible, but there is something more I have to say about the hdimage. The problem is that: - the drdos "eval" hdimage as a nasty licence that doesn't allow redistribution - I've lost trace of who now owns DRDOS. It was born at Digital Research, who was sold to Novell, who sold drdos to Caldera. Caldera gave birth to "Caldera thin clients" who became Lineo who renamed drdos "opendos". At some point this nice piece of software was again called drdos. All this mess means that it's difficult to find and download the hdimage from the internet, but with some googling I've found that web page I've said above. So, why do I insist on using DRDOS? The alternatives could be: 1. MSDOS - but I should create myself an hdimage, and I don't know how-to-do, and moreover I no longer have a dos (neither a windows) partition 2. freedos. Look at freedos.org, it's promising, at actually runs. Freedos could be my dos of choice, *if only* I could access the linux filesystem from dos. But for now I can't say "L:" and go to my linux dirs; I'd have to use the mtools instead to move files between linux and dos. Thus, it's a matter of taste.. if anybody wants to explore freedos, feel free to update this howto!
Piero wrote:
ok.. this is a short howto..
What I'll say has been tested on Mandrake (7.1 and 7.2) and RedHat 8.0
feel free to ask for any further info..
Thanks Piero! I'll check this out, and I'd invite other Linux users to do the same and report back here. Once we get it all checked out we could add to the docs. Tim Wegner
On 26 May 03, at 19:16, Piero Ranalli wrote:
All this mess means that it's difficult to find and download the hdimage from the internet, but with some googling I've found that web page I've said above.
None of which work. I already have OpenDOS/DR-DOS here, as floppy disks. How can I install that using dosemu? David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
On Mon, 26 May 2003, David Jones wrote:
On 26 May 03, at 19:16, Piero Ranalli wrote:
All this mess means that it's difficult to find and download the hdimage from the internet, but with some googling I've found that web page I've said above.
None of which work. [...]
do you mean that you can't download or that the downloaded images don't work? I've checked again, there are a few broken links in that page but some other work.. try the ftp.nluug.nl ones the rpms I've downloaded from there worked..
[...] I already have OpenDOS/DR-DOS here, as floppy disks. How can I install that using dosemu?
This I've never tried.. I think you'll need a bootable dos partition, but you'll have to look at the dosemu documentation... Piero
On 28 May 03, at 16:39, Piero Ranalli wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2003, David Jones wrote:
On 26 May 03, at 19:16, Piero Ranalli wrote:
All this mess means that it's difficult to find and download the hdimage from the internet, but with some googling I've found that web page I've said above.
None of which work. [...]
do you mean that you can't download or that the downloaded images don't work?
I tried several of the links and kept getting various error messages indicating the file and/or folder and/or server (precisely which varied from server to server) could not be found. The NL links all gave me either nothing at all or a message that they were already at their limits re FTP logins. I got it from a gatech site, but I notice that RPM is only 429KB, is that the right size?
I've checked again, there are a few broken links in that page but some other work.. try the ftp.nluug.nl ones the rpms I've downloaded from there worked..
If I can get one from them, I'll try that.
[...] I already have OpenDOS/DR-DOS here, as floppy disks. How can I install that using dosemu?
This I've never tried.. I think you'll need a bootable dos partition, but you'll have to look at the dosemu documentation...
Thanks, will look into that. Actually, for the purpose of running Fractint, would it need to be any more than a bootable DOS system disk (floppy) image? David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
On Wed, 28 May 2003, David Jones wrote:
I got it from a gatech site, but I notice that RPM is only 429KB, is that the right size?
yes, it's the right size the unzipped hdimage is more or less 7 MB, but it's blank for the most (much space was left free to store files)
Thanks, will look into that. Actually, for the purpose of running Fractint, would it need to be any more than a bootable DOS system disk (floppy) image?
right.. I didn't realize that when you mount a bootable floppy, *it is* a bootable partition :) Piero
On 29 May 03, at 19:15, Piero Ranalli wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2003, David Jones wrote:
I got it from a gatech site, but I notice that RPM is only 429KB, is that the right size?
yes, it's the right size
the unzipped hdimage is more or less 7 MB, but it's blank for the most (much space was left free to store files)
Ah, good point! Don't know anything about how DOSEMU works, so just how would Fractint save images to a Linux file system?
Thanks, will look into that. Actually, for the purpose of running Fractint, would it need to be any more than a bootable DOS system disk (floppy) image?
right.. I didn't realize that when you mount a bootable floppy, *it is* a bootable partition :)
And I didn't think that that's how DOSEMU would see it, too. Well, well, sounds like something fun to do to make up for the present fight with our print server at home here. It decided to turn invisible to everyone else on the network, a little hard to prt when nobody can see it ... stupid computers! ;-) David gnome@hawaii.rr.com
On Monday 26 May 2003 19:16, Piero Ranalli wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2003, Tim Wegner wrote:
This is very interesting. Could you add a little step-by-step information on how to do this? I've never used dosemu.
ok.. this is a short howto..
What I'll say has been tested on Mandrake (7.1 and 7.2) and RedHat 8.0
feel free to ask for any further info..
cheers, Piero
FRACTINT+DOSEMU
[big snip] I installed dosemu, xdosemu and dosemu-freedos. That worked, I did a nostalgic EDIT AUTOEXEC.BAT session. [big snip]
2. freedos. Look at freedos.org, it's promising, at actually runs. Freedos could be my dos of choice, *if only* I could access the linux filesystem from dos. But for now I can't say "L:" and go to my linux dirs; I'd have to use the mtools instead to move files between linux and dos.
As I don't have a DOS partition, I want to access my Linux filesystem, so this is where I stopped. I'll try again after downloading DRDOS. Natalie -- aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
Hi, On Tuesday 27 May 2003 20:37, I wrote:
I installed dosemu, xdosemu and dosemu-freedos. That worked, I did a nostalgic EDIT AUTOEXEC.BAT session.
[big snip]
2. freedos. Look at freedos.org, it's promising, at actually runs. Freedos could be my dos of choice, *if only* I could access the linux filesystem from dos. But for now I can't say "L:" and go to my linux dirs; I'd have to use the mtools instead to move files between linux and dos.
As I don't have a DOS partition, I want to access my Linux filesystem, so this is where I stopped. I'll try again after downloading DRDOS.
Natalie
Good news! FreeDOS *can* access the Linux filesystem This is the DOS in a BOX screen: Linux DOS emulator 1.0.2.0 $Date: 2001/06/10 $ Last configured at Mon Jun 11 00:46:22 MEST 2001 on linux DPMI-Server Version 0.9 installed DOS called with UMB,HIGH DOSEMU ? detected XMS driver at f800:0000 Kernel: allocated 6 Diskbuffers = 3156 Bytes in HMA [dosemu EMS 4.0 driver installed] HMA area successfully claimed FreeDOS Kernel compatibility 5.0 FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.24c (Build 2024c) [Jun 10 2001 22:25:01] D: = LINUX\FS/HOME/NAT attrib = READ/WRITE Welcome to dosemu 1.0.2.0! DOSEMU built-in command.com version 1.0 This is the README.bindist file: ==================================================== The DOSEMU/FreeDos ready-to-use binary distribution. ==================================================== INSTALL ------- The most easiest way to get DOSEMU working on your machine is to use the ready-to-use DOSEMU binary distribution. This one comes in 2 packages: - ftp://ftp.dosemu.org/dosemu/dosemu-freedos-bin.tgz A tarball containing a collection of suitable FreeDos binaries, eventually patched to fit DOSEMU needs, together with some GNU tools you may find usefull. - ftp://ftp.dosemu.org/dosemu/dosemu-<version>-bin.tgz A tarball containing the recent DOSEMU binaries together with a user local configuration setup. This installation fits into any user HOME directory and can be used and installed without root permissions. You have to unpack _both_ tarballs (as normal user, NOT as root) into the same directory (regardless what ever) within your HOME, such as: $ mkdir mydos $ cd mydos $ tar -zxf dosemu-freedos-bin.tgz $ tar -zxf dosemu-1.0.2-bin.tgz $ cd dosemu now look where you are and what was installed: $ pwd /home/joeuser/mydos/dosemu $ ls README.bindist bin dosemu xdosemu Xfonts conf freedos RUN --- After you got the install right you now can execute DOSEMU with $ cd ~mydos/dosemu # (your CWD _must_ be here) $ ./xdosemu which will use X or execute $ ./dosemu which will just start within the current terminal or console. If you never used DOSEMU before, you will get prompted (once) that you have read the liability disclaimer and after you agreed, DOSEMU will boot FreeDos and give you a command prompt. If for some reasons it does not start, look at boot.log for details. Remember, that you can't use <Ctrl>-C _within_ DOS to exit _from_ DOS. For this you need to execute 'exitemu' or, when using xdosemu, <Ctrl><Alt><PgDn>. If you want to have your Linux $HOME available as DOS drive D: type $ ./dosemu -home or $ ./xdosemu -home For DOS applications which only read/write from/to STDIN/STDOUT, you may prefer to invoke DOSEMU such as $ ./dosemu -dumb this has the advantage that (A) the output of the DOS application stacks up in your xterm scroll buffer and (B) you can redirect it to a file such as $ ./dosemu -dumb -E dir > listing Note that DOSEMU command.com's commandline editor/history will also work here, however, editing is restricted to BACKSPACE'ing. SOURCES ------- The sources of the here included GPL'ed binaries can befound at http://www.dosemu.org/ http://www.freedos.org/ http://freedos.sourceforge.net/download/ http://www.gnu.org/ Some applications are public domain with no sources published. POLICIES -------- All software herein can be distributed and used freely, most is GPL, other not GPL licenses can be found in the doc/* directories. -- Hans <lermen@fgan.de> 2001/06/10 ==================================================================== Without changing anything to the config file I ran Fractint, and ... ... everything seems to work perfectly: color cycling, color map editing, saving and reading images, running pars, loading color maps ... I have not yet added a sstools.ini, but I guess that will work as well. Good luck! Natalie -- Red Hat Linux 7.1 OOo 1.0.1 NL - OOo 1.0.2 EN aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Natalie wrote:
Good news!
FreeDOS *can* access the Linux filesystem
Natalie, this is really great news! Now we can throw away all that drdos stuff :) and even assemble a joint fractint-dosemu-freedos distribution! Your method is also far easier than mine Cheers Piero
Hi Piero, On Wednesday 04 June 2003 15:24, Piero Ranalli wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Natalie wrote:
Good news!
FreeDOS *can* access the Linux filesystem
Natalie, this is really great news!
Yes, great isn't it... :) The previous dosemu I tested was version 1.0.1, this is v.1.0.2
Now we can throw away all that drdos stuff :)
Drdos is still available, but no longer free, costs about 25 or 30 US$
and even assemble a joint fractint-dosemu-freedos distribution!
Your method is also far easier than mine
Well... it isn't *my* method, it's the description in the README file I tried to run fractint on a "normal" login terminal, but that didn't work. The error that Fractint displays says that this video mode is not supported. Maybe it's just that my card isn't in the list of supported cards. But in X it runs OK. Even faster than xfractint: fractint xfractint 03:14.05 04:59.34 04:01:57 06:59.34 except for very fast fractals, then it is the other way round: fractint xfractint 02:07.53 01:46.85 00:01.93 00:00.82 Good luck! Natalie -- Red Hat Linux 7.1 OOo 1.0.1 NL - OOo 1.0.2 EN aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 15:55, I wrote:
I tried to run fractint on a "normal" login terminal, but that didn't work. The error that Fractint displays says that this video mode is not supported. Maybe it's just that my card isn't in the list of supported cards.
I ran makefcfg, which gave me a list of 12 video modes, from 320x200 up to 1600x1200. I mapped them to my old default F-keys. I tried a "normal" terminal again, still doesn't work. Doesn't matter, it works OK in X. I changed some entries in dosemu.conf, among others: $_cpu=80586 It seems like it runs faster
fractint xfractint cpu=80586 03:14.05 04:59.34 04:01:57 06:59.34 03:34:70
fractint xfractint 02:07.53 01:46.85 02:02.82 00:01.93 00:00.82
But it might be there were less jobs running. In ther meantime I tested zooming, evolver, stereogram, switching video modes. All OK. And to prove that I can: Here's a par. It's a zoom of Al Niekamp's Mixdown, another color map and cycled a bit :) Mixdown_zoom { ; first exploration in freedos ; ; ; Version 2002 Patchlevel 4 reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=_m.par formulaname=multifractal_1 ismand=n function=exp/sin/exp/cosxx passes=t center-mag=-0.0550492/0.279101/68.41133 params=-0.2724234748374889/0.09260841170049135/384.00001/3072.4505/128.0\ 256000000001/768.0256000000001/256.0256000000001/768.0307200000001/12298\ .7/2.16 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=4 periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 colors=000NFM<20>qoosqptsq<3>zzw<25>QJPPHNNFM<2>JAIH8GE7D<3>000<6>336447\ 448<15>GDOGEPHEQ<2>JGTKHUKHT<3>HFPHEOGEN<3>DBICAHBAGB9F<4>87B76A769<3>43\ 5334223222111<3>000000000000<3>D0DG0GK0K<18>fGfgGgiHijIjkJkmKm<16>SASRAR\ Q9QO9ON8NM7MK6K<3>939626313000<2>000<11>HV_IYbJ`e<3>PjqRmtSpwUsz<12>AIK8\ FH7CE<2>234000000<3>000000000<3>808A0AB1B<6>LEK } Good luck, Natalie -- Red Hat Linux 7.1 OOo 1.0.1 NL - OOo 1.0.2 EN aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
Hi Piero On Monday 26 May 2003 17:08, Piero Ranalli wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Natalie wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2003 17:36, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
[...] Can you not install a program that lets you use multiple operating systems chosen at startup? Then use either Win98 or DOS. I've never used xfractint, but maybe [...]
I hope this may help: I find much easier to use the DOS Fractint under DOSEMU (the dos emulator for linux). Fractint runs somewhat slower (not very much, but I've never timed how much) than in a native dos/win98 environment, but it's a good compromise since I don't have to reboot my machine, and I can let fractals generate in the background while I'm working.
Cheers
Piero
I'll try to install DOSEMU + freedos, IIRC they must be somewhere on one of the RH distro CDs Natalie -- aabdeehilptz aegilnt ;) Linux Counter: user 230952
Bloody nice! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee H. Skinner" <skinner@thuntek.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Multifractal
I am pleased to announce my first multifractal gallery:
in English : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/lsmultifrace.htm
in French : http://www.fractalus.com/sylvie/lsmultifracf.htm
I also thank Sylvie Gallet for hosting the gallery. And I also thank Al Niekamp for providing the formula that made these images possible.
The gallery has 30 images. Each can viewed at either 640x480 or 1600x1200.
Lee Skinner
participants (10)
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Albrecht.Niekamp＠t-online.de -
Andrew Coppin -
David Jones -
Lee H. Skinner -
Mike Traynor -
Natalie -
Piero Ranalli -
Richard Giroux -
Sylvie Gallet -
Tim Wegner