was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi... oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to... thanks. caren
On 12/27/22 02:59, travelgirl.fics@gmail.com wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
Yes, I'm here... 101355.2112@compuserve.com
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
The "disk/screen" mode of fractint can do that, no ? tTh -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | http://la.buvette.org/musique/xmas/song10.mp3 | | https://danstonchat.com/1138.html | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
Caren, Hi, it's been a while.
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
There are several options. Not in any particular order. 1. Run Fractint inside DOSBox or in a virtual machine. I find using DOSBox a bit slow and getting files into and out of a virtual machine has always been problematic for me. For DOSBox see https://www.fractint.net/ftp/current/DOSBox The current patch of Fractint (20.04p17) is here: https://www.fractint.net/ftp/current/dos 2. Run Xfractint on a Linux system. This works fairly well and is fast. Down sides are you need to compile it, the interface is slightly different, and there is no sound. The current source for Xfractint (20.04p16) is here: https://www.fractint.net/ftp/current/linux 3. Run the windows SDL port. This is fast. Sound is not implemented beyond the PC speaker buzz. The fast formula parser optimization doesn't always create the correct image (disable with debug=322 on the <g> screen). Other problems are listed in the New Features section of the Help docs. The current windows SDL port is here: https://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2022-05-0... It's good to hear from you. Jonathan
hello, jonathan! i've installed the SDL, which seems to work just fine, including some beeps from the speaker... i've yet to find a way to read and/or write PAR/FRM/whatever they are called today to see if my PARs will render, nor have i seen anything that says "here is where you can see a write-to-disk image that has x-y resolution (something not 1024x768)... is there a doc file i missed? much thanks for the options <3 00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:19 AM Jonathan Osuch <osuchj@mediacombb.net> wrote:
Caren,
Hi, it's been a while.
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
There are several options. Not in any particular order.
1. Run Fractint inside DOSBox or in a virtual machine. I find using DOSBox a bit slow and getting files into and out of a virtual machine has always been problematic for me.
For DOSBox see https://www.fractint.net/ftp/current/DOSBox The current patch of Fractint (20.04p17) is here: https://www.fractint.net/ftp/current/dos
2. Run Xfractint on a Linux system. This works fairly well and is fast. Down sides are you need to compile it, the interface is slightly different, and there is no sound.
The current source for Xfractint (20.04p16) is here: https://www.fractint.net/ftp/current/linux
3. Run the windows SDL port. This is fast. Sound is not implemented beyond the PC speaker buzz. The fast formula parser optimization doesn't always create the correct image (disable with debug=322 on the <g> screen). Other problems are listed in the New Features section of the Help docs.
The current windows SDL port is here:
https://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2022-05-0...
It's good to hear from you.
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Caren, Yes it has been a while. What a pleasure to hear from you! I can't improve on Jonathan's answer. The only thing he left out is you might actually be able to boot to DOS from a USB stick, but that is probably the hardest option. Hey tTh, did we know you by another name in olden times??? Tim On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 8:59 PM <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
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nice to hear from you timothy... i can't say i haven't thought about running a fractal program in the last 30 years, but when i did, it usually butted up against an inability of the hardware to run the software... like xfract recently :) 00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:43 AM Timothy Wegner <tim@tswegner.net> wrote:
Caren, Yes it has been a while. What a pleasure to hear from you!
I can't improve on Jonathan's answer. The only thing he left out is you might actually be able to boot to DOS from a USB stick, but that is probably the hardest option.
Hey tTh, did we know you by another name in olden times???
Tim
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 8:59 PM <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
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ahh. sorta figured out how to get it to recognise my PARs... having said that, i may have encountered a "few" bugs... after trying one of my earliest (0004), the fractint window changed sizes, the information screen can't be resized (and is difficult to read), and the background colour went to an odd yellow/orange. the colour pallette is not accessible (an angry beep), so i may have to close and reopen the window... ahh, remembering the good ol' days :) 00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 6:06 PM ck park <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
nice to hear from you timothy... i can't say i haven't thought about running a fractal program in the last 30 years, but when i did, it usually butted up against an inability of the hardware to run the software... like xfract recently :)
00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork
On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:43 AM Timothy Wegner <tim@tswegner.net> wrote:
Caren, Yes it has been a while. What a pleasure to hear from you!
I can't improve on Jonathan's answer. The only thing he left out is you might actually be able to boot to DOS from a USB stick, but that is probably the hardest option.
Hey tTh, did we know you by another name in olden times???
Tim
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 8:59 PM <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
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ok, i THOUGHT i knew where to find the PAR loader, but it seems i was seeing things... i know that F6 will get me there, but it appears it will do so from one specific point, and well, i haven't found that point again. yet. :) 00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 6:26 PM ck park <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
ahh. sorta figured out how to get it to recognise my PARs... having said that, i may have encountered a "few" bugs... after trying one of my earliest (0004), the fractint window changed sizes, the information screen can't be resized (and is difficult to read), and the background colour went to an odd yellow/orange. the colour pallette is not accessible (an angry beep), so i may have to close and reopen the window...
ahh, remembering the good ol' days :)
00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork
On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 6:06 PM ck park <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
nice to hear from you timothy... i can't say i haven't thought about running a fractal program in the last 30 years, but when i did, it usually butted up against an inability of the hardware to run the software... like xfract recently :)
00 caren ParkGallery.org george davis creek, north fork
On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:43 AM Timothy Wegner <tim@tswegner.net> wrote:
Caren, Yes it has been a while. What a pleasure to hear from you!
I can't improve on Jonathan's answer. The only thing he left out is you might actually be able to boot to DOS from a USB stick, but that is probably the hardest option.
Hey tTh, did we know you by another name in olden times???
Tim
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 8:59 PM <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
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Caren,
ahh. sorta figured out how to get it to recognise my PARs... having said that, i may have encountered a "few" bugs... after trying one of my earliest (0004), the fractint window changed sizes, the information screen can't be resized (and is difficult to read), and the background colour went to an odd yellow/orange. the colour pallette is not accessible (an angry beep), so i may have to close and reopen the window...
The text screen and the graphics screen are set to the same size, so the text can be hard to read if the window is too small. It should be possible to code the text screen to show up in its own window, I just haven't done it yet. The default locations of maps, pars, formula, etc. are set in sstools.ini. These are initially set to start from the location where the Fractint executable is located. Video sizes are set with the <DEL> key. Default video modes for the <DEL> screen are set in fractint.cfg (but don't use an old one since the format has changed). The docs are found by pressing <F1> twice. If you try to print the documentation, Fractint (SDL) will crash. The resulting document file has most of the docs, but is missing the last couple of pages with historical changes on them. Haven't figured out why. Jonathan
On 12/27/22 16:43, Timothy Wegner wrote:
Caren, Yes it has been a while. What a pleasure to hear from you!
I can't improve on Jonathan's answer. The only thing he left out is you might actually be able to boot to DOS from a USB stick, but that is probably the hardest option.
DOSbox is a serious option.
Hey tTh, did we know you by another name in olden times???
Maybe yes, but is a long time ago. I was in some forums, like POVRAY, PICLAB, FRACTINT... At the time, I have also make some fluffy graphic softwares, like that http://la.buvette.org/vrac/img_kp0.html (~1992)
Tim
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70400,2537 saying "Hi!" Bill Jemison On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:59 PM <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
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I am amazed you remember that number (I have no clue what my number was)…I now understand how you are able to write such great code,,,thanks for all the math that visualize infinity. :) Alex Dukay
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70400,2537 saying "Hi!"
Bill Jemison
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 6:59 PM <travelgirl.fics@gmail.com> wrote:
was active as one of the stone group artists back on compuserve in the good ol' days, pre-1997 Ior so). remember bert, tim, lee skinner, and a few others from that time, but it has also been over 25 years... if you were there back then, feel free to say hi...
oh, and if there's a program useable today (preferably free) that will read the old PAR files and generate images in larger resolutions than 1024x768, i'd love to hear about it. system is win10 if that helps, but i might be able to scrounge up some linux hardware if i had to...
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I posted a few frm and par files back then, was nowhere as involved as the established contributors. Is there a searchable list from then, and beyond . sciwise
Edward, The fractint archives are here: https://mailman.xmission.com/hyperkitty/list/fractint@mailman.xmission.com/ I'm not that familiar with how the xmission mailman archives work, so I hope you can figure it out from the link. Tim On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 9:45 PM Edward Montague <sciwiseg@gmail.com> wrote:
I posted a few frm and par files back then, was nowhere as involved as the established contributors. Is there a searchable list from then, and beyond .
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Thanks I found a link to most of what I , and others, did with that unusual frm. On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 3:18 PM Timothy Wegner <tim@tswegner.net> wrote:
Edward,
The fractint archives are here: https://mailman.xmission.com/hyperkitty/list/fractint@mailman.xmission.com/
I'm not that familiar with how the xmission mailman archives work, so I hope you can figure it out from the link.
Tim
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I posted a few frm and par files back then, was nowhere as involved as the established contributors. Is there a searchable list from then, and beyond .
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