. ""Jack how about an animation, maybe more atravel then a deep zoom? Possibly even usingmy music done with "Circles". If you wantI?ll supply the midi or wav edition"" Circle13 loox the best. There are TOO MANY complex parameters to try animating, unless someone wants to suggest a range of values I can try. Zoom in to circle13 shows a never ending series of complex rings - may be cool, I will check it out. If it works I will see about the music. .