.2. the operating system is win2k, but may be using XP (ickypoo) within 6 months... .4. downloaded... that's exactly what i was looking for, as long as the gallet and REB formulae are in there... .ManPWin. handled image size fine, but couldn't read the PARs worth a darn... .overall. THANX! :) Subject: Re: [Fractint] need some help... Caren K. Park wrote:
.2. does anyone know how to make fractint understand a newer nVidia video card, specifically in 1600x1200 mode?
What operating system are you using??
.4. FRMs are problematic, too... does anyone have a collection of FRMs fromthat time period, up to say 1997ish?
Have you looked through what is available in this latest updated collection that I have been taking care of: http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/OrgForm.html
i've tried chaos pro and..... i've also looked at winfract 20.2....
I have not tried Paul's "ManPWin" for higher resolutions, but that might be an option: http://www.deleeuw.com.au/
carenp wrote:
.2. the operating system is win2k, but may be using XP (ickypoo) within 6 months...
If you have a good machine, RAM and disk space, I would suggest getting away from Win-2K and definitely going with XP. You can establish another partition and format for FAT32, then load Win-98 into that area. Either have a dual boot setup or use a VM environment. As to the problem with the newer nVidia card, see if you can get hold of an old Win-98 Boot disk and see what happens when you run FractInt from that when you choose the DOS mode. You can get all the files that come on the distributed Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition Boot Disk from the following location. They are in a ZIP file and must be extracted to a floppy: http://www.Nahee.com/Software/ Look for a file called "Win98-SE_Boot.zip". You may wish to look into running the "MAKEFCFG.EXE" program to see if that will create the correct configurations needed for your system. That program reads VESA Video BIOS and writes the "FRACTINT.CFG" file with VESA video modes. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
What difficulty does everyone have using fractint under XP ? I use it on my laptop and swap freely between fractint and other windows programs. This would seem to indicate that there is nothing implicitly conflicting betwwen the two. I have problems with fractint and display drivers when using it on my desktop, but that's more to do with the fact that I have a matrox parhelia card. Fractint itself will run fine, but I can only get low reolution display. I think a DOS boot disk would give me the same problems, but I can't check it out as all my disks are NTFS formatted. What does fractint do on those systems that can't cope with it ? regards David Paul N. Lee wrote:
carenp wrote:
.2. the operating system is win2k, but may be using XP (ickypoo) within 6 months...
If you have a good machine, RAM and disk space, I would suggest getting away from Win-2K and definitely going with XP. You can establish another partition and format for FAT32, then load Win-98 into that area. Either have a dual boot setup or use a VM environment.
As to the problem with the newer nVidia card, see if you can get hold of an old Win-98 Boot disk and see what happens when you run FractInt from that when you choose the DOS mode. You can get all the files that come on the distributed Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition Boot Disk from the following location. They are in a ZIP file and must be extracted to a floppy: http://www.Nahee.com/Software/ Look for a file called "Win98-SE_Boot.zip".
You may wish to look into running the "MAKEFCFG.EXE" program to see if that will create the correct configurations needed for your system. That program reads VESA Video BIOS and writes the "FRACTINT.CFG" file with VESA video modes.
Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
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I don't think the problem is necessarily the OS, but the drivers. I run Fractint fine on my present and previous hardware under OS/2, with no problems. On the previous hardware (dualbooting between Windows 95/98 and OS/2) - Fractint ran find under OS/2, in all video modes my adaptors (no Matrox - Elsa GLoria Synergy or Voodoo 3000) supported, but the entire system would freeze solid if I tried to run it under Windows. I suspect that some Windows graphics drivers, and some video hardware, cooperates better with Fractint under Windows than others do. And I long ago decided not to rely on Windows drivers when it came to what my video hardware could do. I used to have an IBM PS/2 at my office, running PC-DOS and Windows 3.1. The Windows 3.1 drivers could provide a whopping 800x600x256 colors at a pathetic interlaced refresh rate. Running Fractint without Windows led me to the interesting discovery that the PS/2 machine's video hardware supported 1600x1200x56 colors at a non-interlaced 85Hz refresh rate. Too bad no Windows driver every supported that setting! The office PCs now have Windows XP Pro, but I've not tried running Fractint on it. Got too much other stuff doing at work to get to play with fractals there, although I very rarely fire up ChaosPro on the W98 PC and poke around a bit. David gnome@hawaii.rr.com david wrote:
What difficulty does everyone have using fractint under XP ? I use it on my laptop and swap freely between fractint and other windows programs. This would seem to indicate that there is nothing implicitly conflicting betwwen the two. I have problems with fractint and display drivers when using it on my desktop, but that's more to do with the fact that I have a matrox parhelia card. Fractint itself will run fine, but I can only get low reolution display. I think a DOS boot disk would give me the same problems, but I can't check it out as all my disks are NTFS formatted. What does fractint do on those systems that can't cope with it ?
comment { On Mon, 17 May 2004, David Jones wrote:
david wrote:
What difficulty does everyone have using fractint under XP ? I use it on my laptop and swap freely between fractint and other windows programs. This would seem to indicate that there is nothing implicitly conflicting betwwen the two.
The XP system I tried had to be re-started after a FRACTINT session. By "implicitly", I think you mean "inherently", and in that case you would be right. In protected mode, the video drivers really don't hav an excuse for _not_ trapping any kind of access to the video RAM or the BIOS calls that would enable them to predict such access (enabling them to save or discard any purpose that they had for it). YMMV. OEM: Outside the Estate of Micro$oft.
I have problems with fractint and display drivers when using it on my desktop, but that's more to do with the fact that I have a matrox parhelia card. Fractint itself will run fine, but I can only get low reolution display. I think a DOS boot disk would give me the same problems, but I can't check it out as all my disks are NTFS formatted. What does fractint do on those systems that can't cope with it ?
This is strange. I've been getting wind that NTFS was a problem with Fractint until now. By "low resolution", do you mean 640x480? As a rule, I speculate at resolutions below 800x600. 320x200 is zippy on things like this: } julfnzsqrd { ; Simplifies to hard-coded julfn+zsqrd. z=fn1(pixel), c=P2: z= fn2(z) +z*z +c |z| <= real(P3) } Dendrong { ; 6:06.74/megapixel@350Mhz&PII. ; This gets bigger but kind of boring ; at higher iteration counts. ; Score one for the parser over the compiler. reset=2003 type=julfn+zsqrd function=sinh passes=t center-mag=-0.470218/2.57876/0.1237586/1.2183/-29.38848943572523/8.277\ 90231174726365 params=0/0.75 float=y maxiter=255 bailout=256 inside=0 outside=tdis invert=1.49867022990501/-1.25/1.25 periodicity=0 colors=@diag.map } DendrongP { ; 5:02.59/megapixel@350Mhz&PII. ; Essentially the same thing with the parser. reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=duckowar.par formulaname=julfnzsqrd function=ident/sinh passes=t center-mag=-0.470218/2.57876/0.1237586/1.2183/-29.38848943572523/8.277\ 90231174726365 params=0/0/0/0.75/256/0 float=y maxiter=255 inside=0 outside=tdis invert=1.49867022990501/-1.25/1.25 periodicity=0 colors=@diag.map } _______ MS: Acronym of Multiple Sclerosis. M$: Acronym for Monopolistic $cuzzball.
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