Re: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP
After my experiences with Virtual PC 4.3 reported earlier, I've been following Nick's suggestion to try Virtual PC 5.0 which, according to him, is supposed to be faster than the previous version. DOS under or in Virtual PC 5.0 IS in fact significantly faster than in 4.3 - but only where video is not involved (or only involved in text mode). In other words: Unfortunately, the calculation of fractals in Fractint in DOS in Virtual PC 5.0 in Windows XP on a 2 GHz Pentium4 is still SLOWER than, for example, on a 700 MHz Pentium III. (This is "empirical evidence". I don't know why this is so. But there have been hints that the chip instructions and DOS are not really on good terms...) So, for the time being there does not seem to be a reasonable or convenient way to run Fractint under the Windows XP OS software. At least there is a way to exploit the benefits of some fast pieces of hardware. I've tried Tony's idea: Installing Fractint on a (newly created) small FAT 16 partition (2 GB max), booting with a DOS floppy and running makefcfg. Result: Almost everything I was looking and hoping for. It is FAST!. It is considerably faster than on my 700 and 800 MHz Pentium IIIs. And I managed to generate the following video modes including 1600x1200x 256 - in fact this a copy of the fractint.cfg produced with makefcfg (my card being a NVidia GeForce4 MX 460): ; FRACTINT.CFG File ;key name of adapter/mode | AX | BX | CX | DX |mode| x | y |clr| comments ;========================================================================== ======= F2 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,130, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F3 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,134, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F4 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,131, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F5 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,100, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F6 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,101, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F7 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,103, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F8 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,105, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F9 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,107, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F10 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,147, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF1 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,145, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF2 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,10E, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF3 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,135, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF4 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,132, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF5 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,13D, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF6 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,111, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF7 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,114, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF8 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,117, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF9 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,11A, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF10,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,148, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF1 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,146, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF2 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,10F, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF3 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,136, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF4 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,133, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF5 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,13E, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF6 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,112, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF7 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,115, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF8 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,118, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia Hope this helps. Hans-Joachim
Hans-Joachim: I think can put an upgrade replacement P3/800mhz CPU chip on my old P2/450. Are you saying that Fractint will run faster on that than on my 1Gig & 2Gig P4? Hmmmmm. BTW there's a way to edit msdos.sys to boot directly to the DOS 7.0 command prompt. I forgot the exact commands but I'm someone on this mail list knows the code..... Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans-Joachim Metzger" <hjmetzger@compuserve.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP After my experiences with Virtual PC 4.3 reported earlier, I've been following Nick's suggestion to try Virtual PC 5.0 which, according to him, is supposed to be faster than the previous version. DOS under or in Virtual PC 5.0 IS in fact significantly faster than in 4.3 - but only where video is not involved (or only involved in text mode). In other words: Unfortunately, the calculation of fractals in Fractint in DOS in Virtual PC 5.0 in Windows XP on a 2 GHz Pentium4 is still SLOWER than, for example, on a 700 MHz Pentium III. (This is "empirical evidence". I don't know why this is so. But there have been hints that the chip instructions and DOS are not really on good terms...) So, for the time being there does not seem to be a reasonable or convenient way to run Fractint under the Windows XP OS software. At least there is a way to exploit the benefits of some fast pieces of hardware. I've tried Tony's idea: Installing Fractint on a (newly created) small FAT 16 partition (2 GB max), booting with a DOS floppy and running makefcfg. Result: Almost everything I was looking and hoping for. It is FAST!. It is considerably faster than on my 700 and 800 MHz Pentium IIIs. And I managed to generate the following video modes including 1600x1200x 256 - in fact this a copy of the fractint.cfg produced with makefcfg (my card being a NVidia GeForce4 MX 460): ; FRACTINT.CFG File ;key name of adapter/mode | AX | BX | CX | DX |mode| x | y |clr| comments ;========================================================================== ======= F2 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,130, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F3 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,134, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F4 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,131, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F5 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,100, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F6 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,101, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F7 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,103, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F8 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,105, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F9 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,107, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F10 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,147, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF1 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,145, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF2 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,10E, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF3 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,135, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF4 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,132, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF5 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,13D, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF6 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,111, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF7 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,114, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF8 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,117, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF9 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,11A, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF10,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,148, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF1 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,146, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF2 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,10F, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF3 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,136, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF4 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,133, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF5 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,13E, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF6 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,112, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF7 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,115, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF8 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,118, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia Hope this helps. Hans-Joachim _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint
Yes. Put BootGui=0 instead of 1, and add Logo=0. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Parker <tgparker@worldnet.att.net> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP
Hans-Joachim:
I think can put an upgrade replacement P3/800mhz CPU chip on my old P2/450. Are you saying that Fractint will run faster on that than on my 1Gig & 2Gig P4? Hmmmmm.
BTW there's a way to edit msdos.sys to boot directly to the DOS 7.0 command prompt. I forgot the exact commands but I'm someone on this mail list knows the code.....
Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans-Joachim Metzger" <hjmetzger@compuserve.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP
After my experiences with Virtual PC 4.3 reported earlier, I've been following Nick's suggestion to try Virtual PC 5.0 which, according to him, is supposed to be faster than the previous version.
DOS under or in Virtual PC 5.0 IS in fact significantly faster than in 4.3 - but only where video is not involved (or only involved in text mode). In other words: Unfortunately, the calculation of fractals in Fractint in DOS in Virtual PC 5.0 in Windows XP on a 2 GHz Pentium4 is still SLOWER than, for example, on a 700 MHz Pentium III. (This is "empirical evidence". I don't know why this is so. But there have been hints that the chip instructions and DOS are not really on good terms...)
So, for the time being there does not seem to be a reasonable or convenient way to run Fractint under the Windows XP OS software.
At least there is a way to exploit the benefits of some fast pieces of hardware.
I've tried Tony's idea: Installing Fractint on a (newly created) small FAT 16 partition (2 GB max), booting with a DOS floppy and running makefcfg.
Result: Almost everything I was looking and hoping for. It is FAST!. It is considerably faster than on my 700 and 800 MHz Pentium IIIs. And I managed to generate the following video modes including 1600x1200x 256 - in fact this a copy of the fractint.cfg produced with makefcfg (my card being a NVidia GeForce4 MX 460):
; FRACTINT.CFG File ;key name of adapter/mode | AX | BX | CX | DX |mode| x | y |clr| comments
;==========================================================================
======= F2 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,130, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F3 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,134, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F4 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,131, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F5 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,100, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F6 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,101, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F7 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,103, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F8 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,105, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F9 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,107, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F10 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,147, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF1 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,145, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF2 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,10E, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF3 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,135, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF4 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,132, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF5 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,13D, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF6 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,111, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF7 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,114, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF8 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,117, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF9 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,11A, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF10,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,148, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF1 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,146, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF2 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,10F, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF3 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,136, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF4 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,133, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF5 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,13E, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF6 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,112, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF7 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,115, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF8 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,118, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia
Hope this helps.
Hans-Joachim
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Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo M. Forno" <rforno@tutopia.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:03 PM Subject: RE: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP
Yes. Put BootGui=0 instead of 1, and add Logo=0. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Parker <tgparker@worldnet.att.net> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP
Hans-Joachim:
I think can put an upgrade replacement P3/800mhz CPU chip on my old P2/450. Are you saying that Fractint will run faster on that than on my 1Gig & 2Gig P4? Hmmmmm.
BTW there's a way to edit msdos.sys to boot directly to the DOS 7.0 command prompt. I forgot the exact commands but I'm someone on this mail list knows the code.....
Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans-Joachim Metzger" <hjmetzger@compuserve.com> To: <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Re: Fractint on XP
After my experiences with Virtual PC 4.3 reported earlier, I've been following Nick's suggestion to try Virtual PC 5.0 which, according to him, is supposed to be faster than the previous version.
DOS under or in Virtual PC 5.0 IS in fact significantly faster than in 4.3 - but only where video is not involved (or only involved in text mode). In other words: Unfortunately, the calculation of fractals in Fractint in DOS in Virtual PC 5.0 in Windows XP on a 2 GHz Pentium4 is still SLOWER than, for example, on a 700 MHz Pentium III. (This is "empirical evidence". I don't know why this is so. But there have been hints that the chip instructions and DOS are not really on good terms...)
So, for the time being there does not seem to be a reasonable or convenient way to run Fractint under the Windows XP OS software.
At least there is a way to exploit the benefits of some fast pieces of hardware.
I've tried Tony's idea: Installing Fractint on a (newly created) small FAT 16 partition (2 GB max), booting with a DOS floppy and running makefcfg.
Result: Almost everything I was looking and hoping for. It is FAST!. It is considerably faster than on my 700 and 800 MHz Pentium IIIs. And I managed to generate the following video modes including 1600x1200x 256 - in fact this a copy of the fractint.cfg produced with makefcfg (my card being a NVidia GeForce4 MX 460):
; FRACTINT.CFG File ;key name of adapter/mode | AX | BX | CX | DX |mode| x | y |clr| comments
;==========================================================================
======= F2 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,130, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F3 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,134, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F4 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,131, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F5 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,100, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F6 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,101, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F7 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,103, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F8 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,105, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F9 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,107, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia F10 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,147, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF1 ,VESA Color Palette Mode ,4f02,145, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 256,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF2 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,10E, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF3 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,135, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF4 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,132, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF5 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,13D, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF6 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,111, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF7 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,114, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF8 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,117, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF9 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,11A, 0, 0, 28,1280,1024, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia SF10,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,148, 0, 0, 28,1400,1050, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF1 ,VESA RGB 565 ,4f02,146, 0, 0, 28,1600,1200, 64k,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF2 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,10F, 0, 0, 28, 320, 200, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF3 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,136, 0, 0, 28, 320, 240, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF4 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,133, 0, 0, 28, 320, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF5 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,13E, 0, 0, 28, 640, 400, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF6 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,112, 0, 0, 28, 640, 480, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF7 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,115, 0, 0, 28, 800, 600, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia CF8 ,VESA xRGB 8888 ,4f02,118, 0, 0, 28,1024, 768, 16m,VESA mode from OEM NVidia
Hope this helps.
Hans-Joachim
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Tony Parker