Today's fractal has both inside and outside radiating arms. The palette high lights the outside=iter coloring. Available ready made at good ole http://maxitersfractalfollies.blogspot.com Did xmission have a processing hiccup earlier? I wanted to reply to Mike Frazier via a thread posting but it appears it didn't get through. Any way I want to say his animation was very impressive and greatly enhances enjoyment of fractal graphics. fract384.gif { ; inside outside arms ; blank ; calctime 0:12:40.61 ; created Aug 26, 2010 ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 9 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=_m.frm formulaname=mandel4+n*mandel center-mag=+1.02322052565707100/-0.10319228714524180/966.2956 params=0/0/-3/0 float=y maxiter=1200 inside=0 logmap=34 colors=000v0bt0ar0_q0Zo0Xm0Wl0Uj0Ti0Rg0Qe0Pd0Nb0M`0K_0JY0HX0GV0ET0DS0BQ0\ AO08P08Q08R08S18U18V18W18X28Y28_28`28a38b38d38e38f48g48h48j48k58l58m58o5\ 8p68q68r68s68u78v78w78x78z88z98zA8zB8zC8zD8zE8yF8yG7yH7yI7yJ7yK7xL7xM7xN\ 7xO6xP6xQ6wR6wS6wT6wU6wV6wW5vX5vY5vZ5v_5v`5va5ub5uc4ud4ue4uf4ug4th4ti4tj\ 4tk3tl3tm3sn3so3sp3sq3sr3rs2qs2os3ns3mr4lr4kr5jr5hr6gr6fr6er7dr7cq8aq8`q\ 9_q9ZqAYqAXqBVqBUpCTpCSpDRpDQpDOpENpEMpFLpFKoGJoGHoHGoHFoIEoIDoJCoJAnK8q\ L5tN3wP0zR0wQ0sO0pN0lL0hJ0eI0aG0YE0VD0RB0N90K80G60C40H90MF0RL0WR0`X0eb0j\ h0on0tt0zz0xx0vv0st0qr0no0lm0jk0gi0ef0bd0`b0Y`0WY0UW0RU0PS0MP0KN0HL0FJ1C\ G2CL4DP5DU7DZ8EbAEgBElDFpEFuGGzGGxFFvEEtDDrCCpBBnBBlAAj99h88f77d66b66`55\ Z44X33V22T11R00O53SA6XG9aLCfQFkWIp`LufOzfNyfMweLveKtdJsdIqdHpcGncFmbEkbD\ jaChaBgaAe`9d`8b_7a_6__5ZZ4XZ3WY2UY1TX0Rc0Vk0Zr0bz0fy0e } frm:mandel4+n*mandel { ;p2 determines how strongly the std. mandel should be mixed in (default=1) ;try p2=-3! a=p2,a=a+(|a|==0)*1 z=c=pixel: z2=z*z z=z2*z2+a*z2+c-p1 |z|<127 ;SOURCE: mandhack.frm } Roger Alexander