Dear Petta, You wrote: "This is the first time ever I succeeded to use a Mandel as integrated part of a Julia, which means it follows Julia´s rules, for example the"X" symmetry. To get what I wanted I had to use my enforcement tool, the border system again, but carefully, to avoid chaos or just planting it over the parent. I will not explain it here. Tried several times but nobody really understood it. The mandel parts are colored differently so they are easy to determine. Paul, if you´re listening, have you ever seen an attempt to do this? I doubt." When I posted here I wanted to show something similar to what 46, 47 and 48 of your images create, although I didn't want to use an algorithm to create a more "interesting" inside because I'm only very rarely, if ever, attempt to create "nicer" images. To me, those three images are very interesting and I tried to recreate their Mandelbrot part with ORDs what's main purpose is already "Mandelbrots following the rules of Julias". I found only similar, ORDs07 and posted another one, ORDs08 showing the same parameter set a bit more like one specific Julia fractal. If you are interested, try setting real(p5) to any positive integer or tweaking p1. Other fractals are possible also. Have a nice day B.D. ---parameters-start---------------------------------------- ORDs07 { reset=2099 type=formula formulaname=ORDs center-mag=-0.65/2.22045e-016/1.042/0.75/90 params=9.5921716208380392/0.22217856379894385/0/0/1.327508526766118/0.11\ 102692007758255/2/-0.075/2/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 periodicity=0 } ORDs08 { reset=2099 type=formula formulaname=ORDs center-mag=-0.65/2.22045e-016/1.042/0.75/90 params=9.5921716208380392/0.22217856379894385/0/0/1.327508526766118/0.11\ 102692007758259/2/-0.075/7/0 float=y maxiter=300 inside=0 periodicity=0 } frm:ORDs { c = z0 = pixel, z = 0, c_param = p3, z_param = p4 level_n = 0, level = real(p5) ; integer > 0 bailout = 100 : IF (level_n >= 0) z0 = z0*z0 +c *c_param level_n = level_n +1 c = z0 IF (level_n == level) level_n = -1 z0 = c *z_param ENDIF ELSE z = z*z +z0 ENDIF |z| <= bailout } ---parameters-end------------------------------------------