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1. Re: Running FRACTINT in Windows 10 (Harold Lane) 2. Re: Running FRACTINT in Windows 10 (Harold Lane) 3. Re: Running FRACTINT in Windows 10 (mchris@value.net - Webmail)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 20:04:20 -0500 From: "Harold Lane" <hallane@earthlink.net> To: "'Fractint and General Fractals Discussion'" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10 Message-ID: <004001d4d093$de7cd580$9b768080$@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bud, - I failed to mention winfract-20.04p14 because I'm not familiar with it.
Can anyone characterize its capabilities for Bud? <==<<
- Richard's native Windows program *does* use Fractint FRM, PAR, and MAP files. You have some nice images at your link!
Doing a search on:
"winfract-20.04p14" (WITH the quotes)
I found this Microsoft Answers page mentioning trying an install using Compatability Mode: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/ how-to-install-winfract-2004p14-on-windows-10/0300918c-e95a-4819-a83b-b2f00e 805d99 In case that link is corrupted by any email software, here is a shortened version of it: https://tinyurl.com/Winfract-20-04p14-CompMode
winfract-20.04p14 was almost certainly written for an earlier version of Windows. Windows 10 has a feature called Compatability Mode, which might allow the winfract-20.04p14 installer -- and the installed program -- to run. I found detailed Compatability Mode instructions here: https://www.windows10forums.com/articles/compatibility-mode.7/
- Hal Lane
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-----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of mchris@value.net - Webmail Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:29 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
Hal,
I downloaded winfract-20.04p14. It doesn't appear to have an installation script. Thanks for the recommendations!
Does Richard's program use Fractint FRM, PAR, and MAP files?
What sparked me to finally jump back in was that I decided to make some new Smart Phone wallpapers, and the maximum size of my images (last working in 2004) was 800x600 - hardly up to the size I would like.
My Flickr Wallpaper album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/79951033@N07/albums/72157703710706902
Thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Lane" <hallane@earthlink.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 3:41:31 PM Subject: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
Mark, Bud, If you are trying to install and run DOS Fractint Ver 20.04 in Windows 10, that's not going to work as is. You have a few options to run DOS Fractint or a Windows-compatible Fractint-type program in Windows 10:
Run DOS Fractint "wrapped" in other software environments compatible with Windows 10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- - Install a virtual environment in Windows 10 -- like Oracle's free VirtualBox; then Install Windows XP in your virtual machine; then install DOS Fractint in Win XP. - You could also try running DOS Fractint in a version of DOSBox (running in Windows 10.) Quite a few people like this combination. Tim Wegner recommends the DOSBox Daum version of DOSBox.
Windows-compatible Fractint-type programs ----------------------------------------------------------- - You could try Richard's Windows 10 version of Fractint, now called: "Iterated Dynamics" (although he states that it's not for general distribution). It has some features that have not been fully developed. I've used it a tremendous amount -- with a few work-arounds - I also don't use all of its features. Its interface is effectively DOS Fractint's. - You could try Jonathan Osuch's FractSDL Windows version of Fractint, which is also "still in development." It is a very serviceable version -- also with an interface that's essentially DOS Fractint's.
Running DOS Fractint in a DOSBox or under Windows XP in VirtualBox give you the original Fractint.
I have links and some info on the above options.
- Hal Lane
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-----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of mchris@value.net - Webmail Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 3:36 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Not quite sure how to install this. Is there a guide somewhere?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Christenson" <mchris@value.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 12:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Never mind, found it. Looks like latest update was 2015. Atill curious to see if it works on Win 10. Guess I'll find out...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Christenson" <mchris@value.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 12:00:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Hi Tim. I need to get my frac on. Where can I find the latest version of Fractint for Windows? Will it run on Windows 10?
Thanks, Bud
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Albrecht, the list is working, it's just quiet! :-)
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 20:09:24 -0500 From: "Harold Lane" <hallane@earthlink.net> To: "'Fractint and General Fractals Discussion'" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10 Message-ID: <004101d4d094$93baff30$bb30fd90$@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
On this page: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ the: SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2018-08-05.zip entry should be the Windows 10 compatible version.
I've worked with it (and on it a tiny bit for Jonathan) and it may well be OK for your needs. Note that it's still under development -- not a public release.
- Hal Lane
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-----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of mchris@value.net - Webmail Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:33 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
Thanks David.
While I'm here, does anyone know of a Windows-native fractal generator that works with Fractint files? Any recommendations for favorite fractal generators? I've been out of the loop (pun intended) for 15 years.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Jones" <gnome@hawaii.rr.com> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 4:05:57 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
In addition: Under VirtualBox, you can install FreeDOS and get a pure DOS environment without WindowsXP cost/overhead.
My past experiences with the SDL versions are on Linux, not Windows, but it was nice.
On March 1, 2019 1:41:31 PM HST, Harold Lane <hallane@earthlink.net> wrote:
Mark, Bud, If you are trying to install and run DOS Fractint Ver 20.04 in Windows 10, that's not going to work as is. You have a few options to run DOS Fractint or a Windows-compatible Fractint-type program in Windows 10:
Run DOS Fractint "wrapped" in other software environments compatible with Windows 10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------- - Install a virtual environment in Windows 10 -- like Oracle's free VirtualBox; then Install Windows XP in your virtual machine; then install DOS Fractint in Win XP. - You could also try running DOS Fractint in a version of DOSBox (running in Windows 10.) Quite a few people like this combination. Tim Wegner recommends the DOSBox Daum version of DOSBox.
Windows-compatible Fractint-type programs ----------------------------------------------------------- - You could try Richard's Windows 10 version of Fractint, now called: "Iterated Dynamics" (although he states that it's not for general distribution). It has some features that have not been fully developed. I've used it a tremendous amount -- with a few work-arounds - I also don't use all of its features. Its interface is effectively DOS Fractint's. - You could try Jonathan Osuch's FractSDL Windows version of Fractint, which is also "still in development." It is a very serviceable version -- also with an interface that's essentially DOS Fractint's.
Running DOS Fractint in a DOSBox or under Windows XP in VirtualBox give you the original Fractint.
I have links and some info on the above options.
- Hal Lane
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-----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of mchris@value.net - Webmail Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 3:36 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Not quite sure how to install this. Is there a guide somewhere?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Christenson" <mchris@value.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 12:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Never mind, found it. Looks like latest update was 2015. Atill curious to see if it works on Win 10. Guess I'll find out...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Christenson" <mchris@value.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 12:00:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Hi Tim. I need to get my frac on. Where can I find the latest version of Fractint for Windows? Will it run on Windows 10?
Thanks, Bud
----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim@tswegner.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Albrecht, the list is working, it's just quiet! :-)
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:04 PM Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac@t-online.de> wrote:
test test Albrecht
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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 20:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: "mchris@value.net - Webmail" <mchris@value.net> To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10 Message-ID: <355615367.17928857.1551491064954.JavaMail.zimbra@value.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Thanks for getting me started Hal! I unzipped the files and ran the EXE, started right up. I need to dig up my old files for any clues I can find - I'm VERY rusty.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Lane" <hallane@earthlink.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 5:09:24 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
On this page: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ the: SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2018-08-05.zip entry should be the Windows 10 compatible version.
I've worked with it (and on it a tiny bit for Jonathan) and it may well be OK for your needs. Note that it's still under development -- not a public release.
- Hal Lane
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-----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of mchris@value.net - Webmail Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:33 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
Thanks David.
While I'm here, does anyone know of a Windows-native fractal generator that works with Fractint files? Any recommendations for favorite fractal generators? I've been out of the loop (pun intended) for 15 years.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Jones" <gnome@hawaii.rr.com> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 4:05:57 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] Running FRACTINT in Windows 10
In addition: Under VirtualBox, you can install FreeDOS and get a pure DOS environment without WindowsXP cost/overhead.
My past experiences with the SDL versions are on Linux, not Windows, but it was nice.
On March 1, 2019 1:41:31 PM HST, Harold Lane <hallane@earthlink.net> wrote:
Mark, Bud, If you are trying to install and run DOS Fractint Ver 20.04 in Windows 10, that's not going to work as is. You have a few options to run DOS Fractint or a Windows-compatible Fractint-type program in Windows 10:
Run DOS Fractint "wrapped" in other software environments compatible with Windows 10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------- - Install a virtual environment in Windows 10 -- like Oracle's free VirtualBox; then Install Windows XP in your virtual machine; then install DOS Fractint in Win XP. - You could also try running DOS Fractint in a version of DOSBox (running in Windows 10.) Quite a few people like this combination. Tim Wegner recommends the DOSBox Daum version of DOSBox.
Windows-compatible Fractint-type programs ----------------------------------------------------------- - You could try Richard's Windows 10 version of Fractint, now called: "Iterated Dynamics" (although he states that it's not for general distribution). It has some features that have not been fully developed. I've used it a tremendous amount -- with a few work-arounds - I also don't use all of its features. Its interface is effectively DOS Fractint's. - You could try Jonathan Osuch's FractSDL Windows version of Fractint, which is also "still in development." It is a very serviceable version -- also with an interface that's essentially DOS Fractint's.
Running DOS Fractint in a DOSBox or under Windows XP in VirtualBox give you the original Fractint.
I have links and some info on the above options.
- Hal Lane
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-----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of mchris@value.net - Webmail Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 3:36 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Not quite sure how to install this. Is there a guide somewhere?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Christenson" <mchris@value.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 12:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Never mind, found it. Looks like latest update was 2015. Atill curious to see if it works on Win 10. Guess I'll find out...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Christenson" <mchris@value.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 12:00:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Hi Tim. I need to get my frac on. Where can I find the latest version of Fractint for Windows? Will it run on Windows 10?
Thanks, Bud
----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim@tswegner.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 11:26:37 AM Subject: Re: [Fractint] FRACTINT
Albrecht, the list is working, it's just quiet! :-)
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:04 PM Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac@t-online.de> wrote:
test test Albrecht
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