Hmm, didn't know wget could do that. Thanks! I need to investigate its manpage some! On 02/21/2016 02:04 PM, David W Riccio wrote:
By the way there is a command built into most Linux distributions that will let you clone and/or clone and localize the links of most simple websites: See wget (used from a terminal window) ... (link the HHTrack software)
On 02/21/2016 02:55 PM, David W Riccio wrote:
I have long admired Paul's collection I hope that it can be saved. As best as I could determine there is about 2GB of data being hosted on his site now.
Google will give you 15 GB of storage space with one of their free account and using their sites feature you can build a website there for free. I am not sure how much work it would be to transfer the data and clean up the broken links. But it would be worth saving if his website can't be maintained as is.
On 02/21/2016 02:08 PM, Timothy Wegner wrote:
I am replying to an earlier message so the background of Paul N. Lee's health as of last December and his web sites would show up in the quoted text. As of right now his sites are up. A lot of what follows is off topic, but a little discussion about preserving his sites probably appropriate give that a long time list member has died.
Paul's web sites appear to be mainly (if not entirely) static html which is extremely easy and inexpensive to host. For example, I have a headless 486-class server running a miniature version of Linux that I am using at home mainly as a learning platform. Such a system can easily host a large amount static html. Web hosting is technically against Comcast's terms of service, but in practice they don't seem to mind as long as the customer is not hosting a high traffic site. This tiny 486 box consumes about 5 watts, so is close to "free" to operate.
Another approach is to use one of the cloud computing services provided by any number of folks such as Google, Amazon, and other less familiar names like Digitalocean and Dreamhost. The smallest versions of these, typically with 1 gb ram, are more than suitable for a static website, and cost about $10/month. For example, I am experimenting with Google and Dreamhost. These links will not last, but see these ports of the static fractint.net site: gc.fractint.org, and dc.fractint.org ("gc" for Google Cloud and "dc" for DreamCompute). Google has a 60 day free trial. Amazon has a one year (!!) free trial. The downside of these services is that they are unmanaged. That is you install a stock Linux (or whatever) and are on your own to set it up and manage it This is in contrast to fractint.net, which is (currently) hosted on a managed Virtual Private Server (VPS) ($15/month for 1GB ram instance). In otherwords, Dreamhost keeps the software updated and has configured the web server. I initially found the prospect of hosting on an unmanaged server daunting because I just didn't know enough, but I am learning fast. I do this partly to keep my old brain engaged with technical challenges for my own health.
Actually, plain old fashioned shared hosting would probably suffice for Paul's content, this costs as little as $4/month, and is managed. This thought occurred to me after I wrote the long previous paragraph.
Anyone who already has hosting could make a sub-domain, and add the static content. There are tools (see https://www.httrack.com/) that can capture sites. Of course this would be easier if Paul has given someone access to his sites so the html could be obtained directly.
One issue is that some of Paul's sites I would personally be the most interested in capturing are to a greater or lesser degree in need of maintenance, mainly cleaning up of dead links. Among other things, Paul captured Noel Giffin's spanky site, which has many dead links. I am not sure how deep I want to get into editing the sites, but I am interested in content that is more fractint-related.
If anyone has anything to offer on this, maybe for a little while we should declare how to capture some or all of Paul's fractal sites on topic. I would be interested in knowing what of Paul's content folks would like to see saved. Or if someone else is just going ahead and doing this, I would like to know that too.
PS Just saw Harold Lane's note about John Starr, so as Harold said, maybe this is moot.
Tim
See quoted material below.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Hal Lane <hallane@earthlink.net> wrote:
I have been battling cancer since January 2008. Paul, Thank you for being willing to share your challenges with the members of the [Fractint] list. I feel bad that you have had so many physical trials.
And thank you for all your attentions to the members of this list, and all the time and effort you have devoted to fractals, fractal software and computing elsewhere, Paul. http://www.nahee.com/Fractals/ Revised Spanky Fractal Database: http://www.nahee.com/spanky/ http://www.nahee.com/PNL/Fractals.html http://www.nahee.com/ https://www.blogger.com/profile/08898206387741732050 http://www.nahee.com/Fractals/Contest1997/CONTEST.html etc.
[There are also other fractal contest pages, hosted elsewhere:] http://www.fractalartcontests.com/1998/ http://www.fractalartcontests.com/1999/ http://www.fractalartcontests.com/2000/en/index.html on: https://www.fractalus.com/
Are either John or Nahee Enterprises able to continue to host your valuable pages?
- Hal Lane
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------ P.N.L. said --------------------- You are lucky you are so well of, Albrecht. :-)
I have been battling cancer since January 2008. I have had over a dozen surgical procedures, numerous sets of radiation treatments (where my skin was so "burned" it begin to liquefy), and years of chemo-therapy so intense at times, I had to be sent to Emergency because the "poisons" they gave me were killing me (such as my nails turning black and falling off).
And now my newly grown liver (which 80 percent was cut out a year ago) has more lesions and is now failing, causing me sever edema. Plus, the additional lesions in my lung and lymph nodes are creating their own set of problems.
The Palliative Care doctor this past afternoon says I should have about six weeks left to live, and if lucky, I might be able to stretch that to four to six months if they can control the fluid retention and keep what little functionality my liver currently has going that long.
So, you do not not have that much to complain about. There are others who are much worse off than you.
Sincerely, P.N.L.
-- David W. Jones gnome@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com