Thanks to all the people that apparently stay up all night working on fractals I can be more specific. The size of a GIF picture is the four bytes immediately after the GIF89a. If the picture was done and saved in the preview in V mode the size that shows is the actual size of the picture and the viewing program puts it where it wants to on the screen. Here is the problem I am seeing with Fractint 99. Using R to display an old 640 by 480 file the a line on the mode select screen says nonstandard aspect ratio. Then selecting the 640X480 GDI mode and the screen showing warning about the v mode shows up. Proceed and the picture fills the window. Save this and the new file still shows as 640X480. Do a routine mandelbrot scan and the x axis is obviously squashed. Save this and the picture is still 640X480. Because Fractint 99 can't cope with the v mode I am at a loss as to where to look next. Charles