12 Jun
2017
12 Jun
'17
5:30 a.m.
It all sounds like maybe too much trouble. I don't want to start a non-Fractint discussion on this group, but if anyone has recommendations or a link to a comparative guide of Windows-based fractal generators please email me direct. Obviously I'd like something that can read PAR files and write something similar. I'd hate to lose my legacy database. I'd also like to avoid anything with a subscription license (I'd like to buy it, not rent it). Wasn't there a WinFract version a few years back? I remember having something Fractint-related running on Windows on my second-to-last computer. Not Win 10 compatible? TIA... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Lane" <hallane@earthlink.net> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <fractint@mailman.xmission.com>, "David W Riccio" <david@lemoncreekdigital.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:13:43 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] VirtualBox version of FreeDos with Fractint David [Riccio], I just chanced across this (unsupported) procedure: "How to migrate existing Windows installations to VirtualBox" https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows Excerpt: (*Highlight* is mine.) ----- Windows installations, unlike Linux, cannot easily be moved from one hardware to another. This is not just due to Microsoft's activation mechanism but the fact that the installed kernel and drivers depend on the actual hardware. This document explains the common pitfalls and how to work around these. We assume that either a *physical* Windows installation or a VMware image is the source of migration. ----- They give "Step By Step Instructions For Windows XP", but it's unsupported. Thanks again for your answers to my questions. I'm going to sleep on this and plunge ahead -- in some direction -- tomorrow when I'm fresh. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane@earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David W Riccio Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:16 PM To: Harold Lane <hallane@earthlink.net>; 'Fractint and General Fractals Discussion' <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] VirtualBox version of FreeDos with Fractint -Hal > I don't know how to take the installed Win XP OS off the currently > still-booting Win XP computer and put it into the VM on my Win 10 computer. > > Q: > Or would I just use the manufacturer-specific install CD and license > key to do an install in the VM? <== <== > > If I do that, I'd still be missing the Service Packs... When I created my XP VM I used a non OEM version of XP ... I have not tried an OEM version in a long while I know if you have the install that is pre SP3 it will work for OEM (Dell) disks ... I think you can still download the Service Packs from Microsoft catalog site. You do need a valid key. > Q: >> old XP machines ... placed into VMs to protect them > Does that protect: > - just the license key, or > - the entire lot of installed programs and the C:\ drive's data on > the "protected" Win XP computer? <== <== I just reinstalled the software I needed on the new VMs after I got the XP OS installed and patched. I looked into this program that will clone a bare metal OS to a VM ... but it is tailored for VMware (not Virtual Box) ... but it might work for your machine. https://www.vmware.com/products/converter.html The whole XP machine is protected ... as long as you don't use it for the Internet you are mostly safe (There is a patch for the SMB hole, Microsoft published a special patch for XP because there are still so many of those machines running in dedicated machines like ATMs and Hospital machines (think MRI machines) ) >> open a VDI (VirtualBox dynamic disk image) of a VM > If I can get VirtualBox and the FreeDOS/Fractint image installed and > running, I'll try that and let you know what happens. > I kind of like that this takes place outside the VM and FreeDOS, and > doesn't need any modification of either of those envronments -- e.g.: > network installation. It looks like there are drivers for Win 10 that will let you open and access a virtual disk. There are a number of Win10 options ... You might want to look at ImDisk or the 7-Zip suite. I have not done this. There is also a utility from VMWare that will do this. > Q: > P. S. One last Q.: Am I correct in thinking that: > "Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.1.22-115126.vbox-extpack" > assumes an OS with more capability than FreeDOS for some of its > features to work? Yes ... no FreeDOS or DOS support for the extensions > P. P. S. I just chanced across this in the VirtualBox docs: > "Set up a DOS VM with networking (and shared folders)" > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_with_DOS > Excerpt: "Now I can read from and write to my host's drive from the > VirtualBox DOS machine!" > I realize that the described procedure might be no longer be needed if > networking features are built into newer VM versions or the Extension > Pack... > Also, this might method take too much memory away from DOS for > Fractint to run. > This will work but as you say it takes a lot of memory away from Fractint ... the extensions are not an option in DOS but will work on an XP machine. _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint