Jim Muth wrote:
At 11:43 PM 8/24/03 -0700, Kevin Sexton wrote:
Before you went off on it it might have been better to politely let the admin know what happened,
Yes, this would have been a better response.
maybe it was just a one time thing, email and listservers aren't infallible.
Yes, it could have been a one-time thing.
Sometimes a mail to you bounces through no fault of your own but an intermediate server problem. It's possible that over the past 6 years enough emails bounced that they tripped the 'too many bounces' counter.
Not possible. I only lurked on the list. During the 6 years I lurked, I posted maybe 2 or 3 messages to the list
it's not messages posted by you that would have bounced, but messages sent to you
I would have just tried resubscribing and maybe send a mail to the admin letting them know there was a problem.
On most days, I would have done the same.
Mailing lists are set up to automatically bounce bad addresses, it doesn't matter if it's a large or small list.
Yes, it works best this way.
Most unsubscribes are really due to an address no longer existing.
These addresses should be purged from the list.
that's what the server was trying to do
There will be on any list that has been around a while bounces that do not result in an automatic unsubscribe. These take the administrators time to sort through the headers, and figure out who bounced (it really isn't always easy, the original address may not be anywhere in the bounce.)
Being a list administrator does take some effort.
I manage a small list, around 10 people, I got about 40 messages in the last year and several bounces per message, and when I do get a bounce message, I may have to send test messages to figure out who has a bad address.
Then you know the work involved in being the administrator of a mailing list.
It's even possible that someone else subscribed with a bad mindspring address and the server matched the headers to your address.
Yes, this is a possibility.
Another possibility is someone subscribed with a forwarding address like you can get at bigfoot.com, and forwarded to mindspring. If they cancel mindspring, the bounces come from mindspring, with no clue to it being another address.
Yes, this is another possibility.
I'm sure there is a simple, easily explained reason why I was unsubscribed. I didn't blow my top because there was no reason; I blew my top because it happened. On most days I would have shrugged it off and resubscribed. It was the line in the notice which said that, before resubscribing, I should solve *my* problem, that set me off. I found the notice just as I finished a 6-hour argument with a customer who insisted that the errors in his job were caused by my incompetence rather than by his inability to accurately communicate instructions by words or fax.
I'll settle down in a day or two.
Jim M.
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