Sylvie, - Does anyone know what happened to the Ultra Fractal discussion - list... The list is fine. My server ISP had a huge influx of hack attempts from a wide range of IP addresses all belonging to Tiscali France. While they are dealing with this they have blocked access to that netblock, and the mail server for libertysurf.fr is squarely in that block. Oddly, your outbound mail passes through a different mailserver that is on a different network, so you can email me directly without trouble. I just can't reply directly. I just got off the phone with the owner of the ISP and he says they should have the block removed in a few days. If it doesn't clear up, send me an email and I'll check again. / Damien M. Jones http://www.fractalus.com/gallery/ \\ dmj@fractalus.com (personal gallery of fractal art) /