David said:
Many people keep their files and such there: https://archive.org/ I recall seeing pages somewhere on archive.org describing how you can upload items be saved there. You need to create an account with them to do that. Also, the file: robots.txt located on a web site can influence archive.org and search engines' behavior regarding scanning/saving a site. More on this is below.
Be aware that there is a size limit on files that archive.org is able to host. For example, essentially all the actual *images* of fractals that were on Paul N. Lee's site's web pages are not on archive.org. All his web pages (and smaller PAR and FRM files and collections) appear to be there. However, they may possibly host larger single (non-image?) files... For example, I see that Paul N. Lee's 1.6 MB file: ORGFORM.ZIP is on this page at Archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20170809064351/http://www.nahee.com/PNL/OrgForm. html Archive.org uses specific terms to identify how they host material: e.g.: "collections", "public Community collections" and "item pages". This is their Help page on the subject of saving "items": https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360017788831-How-to-upload-files- to-create-a-new-item-page- On that page they say: "If you have several files and need to create many items, please contact us at info@archive.org for additional information about how to do bulk or batch uploading using our command-line tool..." "Collections" and their uploading are described here: https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360017502272-How-to-request-a-col lection- I don't immediately see where they use the phrases "web site" or "web pages"... Also, note that a file in the root directory of a site named: robots.txt can -- perhaps inadvertently -- contain a line that tells search engines (and archive.org) to *not* scan the site. A quick search on: robots.txt examples gives enough info to go on. I believe that no robots.txt file, or an empty robots.txt file give the default behavior -- which is to allow the site to be scanned. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane@earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint <fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of david Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 4:11 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Archiving Web Sites Hmm, archive.org itself? Its Wayback Machine feature is just an automated scan/limited download of websites. But that's not the only way a site gets into archive.org. Many people keep their files and such there. https://archive.org/ On 3/9/19 10:14 AM, mchris@value.net - Webmail wrote:
Not that it is of that magnitude, but my site "Bud's Fractal Pages" disappeared back in the early 00s when my ISP dropped hosting services. I resurrected it on HelioHost and tried to get relisted on the IFL, but was told it was obsolete. I never listed it with search engines, which was no great loss as it disappeared again a few years ago when a long-term problem with logging in caused me to miss the deadline for account verification and I lost it again. Can anyone recommend a good free hosting service, as I am hesitant to start over with HelioHost again?
Thanks, Bud
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kaufman" <rogerkaufman@interocitors.com> To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" <Fractint@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 5:44:09 AM Subject: [Fractint] Archiving Web Sites
Hi All,
We are dropping the ball in saving old fractal resources.
I already mentioned
https://web.archive.org/web/20170814000151/http://www.nahee.com/Fractals/
Then when I went to look at Jim's FOTD archive it has dropped off the face of the earth
https://user.xmission.com/~legalize/fractals/fotd/index.html
I used to collect Jim's par files as did Les St. Claire over a decade ago
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