I have "lurking" around the fractint discussion group for some years. (Just at the moment I still can't figure out how to get Fractint to work with Windows XP -- and don't tell me about DOS boot disks or multiple partitions.) Anyway, I have an almost new copy of Fractal Creations 2nd Ed, complete with CD, 3 !/2 " floppy and 3-D glasses that I am willing to sell for $10 plus shipping -- say $5. If anyone is interested, let me know at geopriest@raincity.com