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Another series derivative
by sciwise＠ihug.co.nz 24 Nov '16

24 Nov '16

This is the first derivative of the iteration z= sin(z) + c . I'm standardizing the variables , z for series , u for first derivative, v for second derivative. d1cos(XAXIS){; Edward Montague ; (c) Copyright 2016 ; ; z = sin(z) + c ; 1st derivative of z series = u. ; c = Pixel z = c u = 1 u0 = u: u = cos(z)*u + u0 z = sin(z)+c |u| < 10000 }

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Re: [Fractint] I live in New Zealand , where there are major fault lines around the country.
by Harold Lane 21 Nov '16

21 Nov '16

> I live in New Zealand , where there are major fault lines around the > country. Were you affected by the current earthquake and aftershocks? Are you OK? - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## ---------------Original Message----------------------------------- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces+hallane=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of sciwise(a)ihug.co.nz Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:48 AM To: fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Fractint] We're still alive and well at Fractal Central Hi I live in New Zealand , where there are major fault lines around the country. The Christchurch earthquake that made the news a few years ago was quite devastating ; problems with liquefaction , in the suburbs persist through to the present. The inner city was built upon basaltic rock , nevertheless there was widespread damage to new and old buildings alike. Prior to the earthquake various oil companies were using horizontal drilling in an attempt to find oil and gas deposits. Of course earthquake fissures assume a fractal pattern. If you've ever read about Nikola . Tesla then you might appreciate how he was dealing with fractal objects ; like the electrical discharges that he was so well known for. Sciwise On 28/10/2016 ---------------------------------16:48, Kathleen Roth wrote: --------------- > "I was told that the truth of the matter > is that these days a skyscraper can be built on a swamp, and that the force > distributing buildings large and small over the island was the aggregate of > many financial decisions by developers over the centuries." > > Interesting to see this discussion here. In fact, very much in the news in > the San Francisco Bay Area is the Millennium tower that was completed > in 2009. It does not have a foundation that goes to bedrock. It has 58 stories and a foundation that goes ~80 feet into > bay-fill that can liquefy in an earthquake. It has been sinking at > a much faster rate than predicted and is now tilting. > They are claiming that it is still safe in an earthquake. > My medium-sized wood frame house near the Hayward fault has concrete piers that > go 14-24' into the ground, into bedrock. > > http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/As-charges-fly-in-SF-tests-begin- on-sinking-9289898.php [12] > > http://sf.curbed.com/2016/9/16/12945600/why-millennium-tower-sinking [13] > > Kathy Roth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Wegner" > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:37:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Fractint] We're still alive and well at Fractal Central > > David wrote: > >> Everyone has their own personal PTSD reaction to the 9/11/01 WTC attacks > > I just returned from a visit to NYC for the first time in 35 years. The > visit to the 911 memorial was certainly an intense experience. While not > exactly a fractal, a giant twisted beam in the basement had assumed a shape > I found strange indeed. The rectangle-based structure of the beam built > originally straight from Plato's world of forms had morphed into multiple > twists and loops under forces beyond imagination. The result was a > sculpture that looked more from nature than human imagination. > > Manhatten itself can be seen, from one perspective, as a fractal. I asked > about the distribution of the buildings and skyscrapers. While possibly > true once, the oft-repeated claim that the sturdy New York bedrock is what > permitted the over-scale buildings, I was told that the truth of the matter > is that these days a skyscraper can be built on a swamp, and that the force > distributing buildings large and small over the island was the aggregate of > many financial decisions by developers over the centuries. > > My condolences also to Jim concerning the fractal cat. > > Tim > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, David Jones wrote: > >> Everyone has their own personal PTSD reaction to the 9/11/01 WTC attacks. I guess Jim's choice to turn to the "irrational" side of the Force is his. ;) David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com [7] authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.comOn [8] Oct 27, 2016 15:07, John Wilson < 1stdiscus(a)gmail.com [9]> wrote: >> >>> Really? "I find it easier to believe than something unknown is creating the more intricate of these formations other than a couple guys with boards or groups who show that at least the more simple circles could be done by humans in one night." How about--- http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/simon-beck- [1] >> snow-art >> >>> One guy only! He hasn't enlisted any unknowns either. John W. On 27 October 2016 at 11:49, Jim Muth wrote: >>> >>>> Fractal fans of years past: We're still alive and kicking here at Fractal Central, but things have not been going too well in the past couple months. To start, we found a one week old abandoned kitten in the fractal yard on July 31, which we bottle fed until it was old enough to take care of itself. Then the oldest fractal cat, Nicholas, passed away on September 27, and we decided to keep the orphan kitten, which is a little girl we named Riley. The new girl is now 14 weeks old and learning how to get along with the established cats, Jasmine and Lida. But being raised by humans, she does not yet know how to properly interact with other cats, and some occasional hissing and growling still occurs. As for the fractals, I am still very interested in them, but I am also becoming quite interested in things that are not totally rational, such as alien abductions, crop circles, bigfoots, hauntings and other things widely considered paranormal. I have never seen a convincing image of an alien, ghost or bigfoot on a TV show, but crop circles definitely have existed. The photos are plentiful, and despite the claims that they are all hoaxes, which appears to satisfy skeptics, I find it easier to believe that something unknown is creating the more intricate of these formations other than a couple guys with boards or groups who show that at least the more simple circles could be done by humans in one night. Perhaps the most intriguing thing of all I have gotten into is the furor between materialists and idealists over the meaning of the quantum discoveries of the past almost 100 years as they apply to the everyday world. I see materialists defending their position that the material world is real, while idealists are claiming that material is an illusion created by the mind, a belief that supports the mystical claims of eastern religions. Since no one really understands the quantum, both sides can spin the quantum discoveries and results of experiments to make it appear as their own theory of reality is true, but to me at least, it appears that the materialist side is doing the greater amount of spinning. I also notice that materialists are quicker to slip into anger and launch ad hominem attacks when they have no real rebuttal of idealist claims. To me this is how people react when they begin to doubt their own beliefs. Then again, maybe it's all a tempest in a teapot . . . 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A Differential Equation
by sciwise＠ihug.co.nz 14 Nov '16

14 Nov '16

Continuing from previous posts on the topic of the derivative[s] of the Mandelbrot Series. I now attempt to examine the regions of stability for this D.E. y'' + y' + y'*y' + y - exp(y*y') = 0 Where I set y equal to the Mandelbrot series , with initial conditions determined by the value of Pixel. I remain uncertain at this stage as to how to interpret the results. I'm assuming that the regions with the fewest iterations are what we require. Another approach to solving second order differential equations is to use the Euler - Heun method ; this however provides less information as it's usually implemented as a purely numerical approach. Non linear differential equations have been difficult to solve as the elementary functions don't provide the scope required. Anyway here's the code . de2bmand(XAXIS){; Edward Montague ; 2nd order non linear differential equation = z. ; y'' + y' + y'*y' + y - exp(y*y') = 0 ; 2nd derivative of mandelbrot series = w. ; 1st derivative of mandelbrot series = u. ; Mandelbrot series = v v = Pixel u = 1 w = 0 z = 0: w = 2*u*u +2*w*v u = 2*v*u + 1 z = w +u + u*u + v - exp(v*u) v = v*v+Pixel |z| < 1 }

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Re: [Fractint] We're still alive and well at Fractal Central
by David Jones 29 Oct '16

29 Oct '16

Everyone has their own personal PTSD reaction to the 9/11/01 WTC attacks. I guess Jim's choice to turn to the "irrational" side of the Force is his. ;) David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.comOn Oct 27, 2016 15:07, John Wilson <1stdiscus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Really? > "I find it easier to believe than something unknown is creating the more > intricate of these formations other than a couple guys with boards or > groups who show that at least the more simple circles could be done by > humans in one night." > > How about--- http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/simon-beck-snow-art > > One guy only! He hasn't enlisted any unknowns either. > > John W. > > On 27 October 2016 at 11:49, Jim Muth <jimmuth(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > Fractal fans of years past: > > > > We're still alive and kicking here at Fractal Central, > > but things have not been going too well in the past > > couple months. To start, we found a one week old > > abandoned kitten in the fractal yard on July 31, which > > we bottle fed until it was old enough to take care of > > itself. Then the oldest fractal cat, Nicholas, passed > > away on September 27, and we decided to keep the > > orphan kitten, which is a little girl we named Riley. > > The new girl is now 14 weeks old and learning how to > > get along with the established cats, Jasmine and Lida. > > But being raised by humans, she does not yet know how > > to properly interact with other cats, and some > > occasional hissing and growling still occurs. > > > > As for the fractals, I am still very interested in > > them, but I am also becoming quite interested in > > things that are not totally rational, such as alien > > abductions, crop circles, bigfoots, hauntings and > > other things widely considered paranormal. I have > > never seen a convincing image of an alien, ghost or > > bigfoot on a TV show, but crop circles definitely > > have existed. The photos are plentiful, and despite > > the claims that they are all hoaxes, which appears to > > satisfy skeptics, I find it easier to believe that > > something unknown is creating the more intricate of > > these formations other than a couple guys with boards > > or groups who show that at least the more simple > > circles could be done by humans in one night. > > > > Perhaps the most intriguing thing of all I have gotten > > into is the furor between materialists and idealists > > over the meaning of the quantum discoveries of the > > past almost 100 years as they apply to the everyday > > world. I see materialists defending their position > > that the material world is real, while idealists are > > claiming that material is an illusion created by the > > mind, a belief that supports the mystical claims of > > eastern religions. Since no one really understands > > the quantum, both sides can spin the quantum > > discoveries and results of experiments to make it > > appear as their own theory of reality is true, but to > > me at least, it appears that the materialist side is > > doing the greater amount of spinning. I also notice > > that materialists are quicker to slip into anger and > > launch ad hominem attacks when they have no real > > rebuttal of idealist claims. To me this is how people > > react when they begin to doubt their own beliefs. > > > > Then again, maybe it's all a tempest in a teapot . . . > > > > Jim M. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fractint mailing list > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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We're still alive and well at Fractal Central
by Jim Muth 28 Oct '16

28 Oct '16

Fractal fans of years past: We're still alive and kicking here at Fractal Central, but things have not been going too well in the past couple months. To start, we found a one week old abandoned kitten in the fractal yard on July 31, which we bottle fed until it was old enough to take care of itself. Then the oldest fractal cat, Nicholas, passed away on September 27, and we decided to keep the orphan kitten, which is a little girl we named Riley. The new girl is now 14 weeks old and learning how to get along with the established cats, Jasmine and Lida. But being raised by humans, she does not yet know how to properly interact with other cats, and some occasional hissing and growling still occurs. As for the fractals, I am still very interested in them, but I am also becoming quite interested in things that are not totally rational, such as alien abductions, crop circles, bigfoots, hauntings and other things widely considered paranormal. I have never seen a convincing image of an alien, ghost or bigfoot on a TV show, but crop circles definitely have existed. The photos are plentiful, and despite the claims that they are all hoaxes, which appears to satisfy skeptics, I find it easier to believe that something unknown is creating the more intricate of these formations other than a couple guys with boards or groups who show that at least the more simple circles could be done by humans in one night. Perhaps the most intriguing thing of all I have gotten into is the furor between materialists and idealists over the meaning of the quantum discoveries of the past almost 100 years as they apply to the everyday world. I see materialists defending their position that the material world is real, while idealists are claiming that material is an illusion created by the mind, a belief that supports the mystical claims of eastern religions. Since no one really understands the quantum, both sides can spin the quantum discoveries and results of experiments to make it appear as their own theory of reality is true, but to me at least, it appears that the materialist side is doing the greater amount of spinning. I also notice that materialists are quicker to slip into anger and launch ad hominem attacks when they have no real rebuttal of idealist claims. To me this is how people react when they begin to doubt their own beliefs. Then again, maybe it's all a tempest in a teapot . . . Jim M.

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Condolence
by John Wilson 27 Oct '16

27 Oct '16

BTW, Jim. So sorry about Nicholas--- I think he was a friend of all of those who followed your works. John W.

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Re: [Fractint] We're still alive and well at Fractal Central
by David Jones 27 Oct '16

27 Oct '16

On Oct 27, 2016 09:37, Bill Jemison wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Jim Muth wrote: > > > maybe it's all a tempest in a teapot . . . > > > > or maybe it's all a tempest in a teapot in a tempest in a teapot in a > tempest etc... > > Bill > audiofractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home> Reality is a figment of your imagination. Reality is what kills you. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Looking the other way
by sciwise＠ihug.co.nz 15 Oct '16

15 Oct '16

If you look at the fractal generated by my differential equation , for |z| > 10000 ; then the traditional Mandelbrot set appears plus embellishments. I shall examine a more well known differential equation at some other stage. There are various to choose from. Sciwise

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Things at Fractal Central
by Jim Muth 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

Fractal fans: We've been on a long and I might add well-earned vacation over the past month. Fractal Central is still up and running, but while we have been taking it easy, I have had lots of time to ponder the scientific and philosophical mysteries of existence, which to me now seem more relevant to everyday life than fractals, which yet remain great fun. I'll have more to say in the next few days. But hopefully, I will not start an overheated debate. JIM M.

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Removal of malware delivered by link in recent off-topic post
by Harold Lane 23 Aug '16

23 Aug '16

Albrecht Niekamp requested that I: - post info on how to remove the malware delivered by the recent off-topic [Fractint] post, and - request that Tim Wegner remove the post containing the link to the malware. Here is some of what Albrecht sent me: > Suppose you place a warning in the Fractint forums and have the administrator (Tim) remove it from the archives - it IS there !! > Probably some [Fractint List] users are now having severe problems and cannot deal with them. > Remember I had more then 40 (fourty!) infections and it´s some kind of miracle how i got rid of them. To remove the large number of malware items that the link installs, Albrecht said to: [I searched for and added the links -Hal] > Proceed as follows (my advice) > Use the "Wise cleaner" to clean the browser cache and Winsxs: > http://www.wisecleaner.com/ ($) > Use the "Emsisoft Emergency Kit" for a manual scan, [of your] complete computer: > https://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/eek/ > also [use] the "ADW Cleaner": > http://download.cnet.com/AdwCleaner/3000-7786_4-75851221.html > All found items must be deleted, not quarantined, also [delete these] from your antivirus software. > After the system restart you´re probably ok, I was. Albrecht, Sorry for the delay in posting this. Tim, Is it feasible to remove this [Fractint] post containing the malware-delivering link? : . Author: cb . Date: 2016-08-19 23:54 -400 . To: do-not-reply, joey, fractint, partner . Subject: [Fractint] Fw: previous experience - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Albrecht Niekamp [mailto:xxfractalist@outlook.com] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:16 AM To: Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net> Subject: Fractint threat Hope, you were lucky. If you clicked on the link you probably were not. Yesterday in the news was a warning about a new spy ware threat which is more powerful then any one seen before. I had about 40 to 50 spyware and trojan items in the Firefox cache: Users/your name/appdata/ roaming . Suppose you place a warning in the Fractint forums and have the administrator (Tim) remove it from the archives - it IS there !! Proceed as follwos (my advice) Use the "Wise cleaner" to clean the browser cache and Winsxs. Use the "Emsisoft Emergency Kit" for a manual scan, complete computer, also the "ADW Cleaner". All found items must be deleted, not quarantined, also from your antivirus software. After the system restart you´re probably ok, I was. Tell me if you need the adresses, the items should be easy to find, but only on their own locations. Albrecht --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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