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Re: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port
by Jonathan Osuch 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

Harold, > - On the "X" page, it was disconcerting to not see a cursor at "the > text > cursor position", altho I was able to change the 150 iterations to > 1500... The text cursor has to be implemented by software and, like a lot of other features, is not part of the SDL features. I have some thoughts and will work on it. > - "E" allows loading a different color map, instead of bringing up > the > outline of the enhanced / Extended(?) Color Editor. Color cycling/editing is something else that needs to be implemented in software. The maximum number of colors in an image is still currently limited to 256, despite what the video selection screen says. > Do you know whether Johnathan is soliciting/desires to get "bug > reports" > yet, and if so, where and how? (As you said, it may be too early for > these.) I am planning to put a bug list in the "New Features" help screen. Although, it will be more like a "What's Broken" list for a while. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port
by Jonathan Osuch 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

Tony, Disk video is broken. I will have a look at it. And, based on the size of the images you want to create, I'll need to modify it to be able to switch over from using memory to using the hard disk. Thanks for the feedback. Jonathan On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 09:47 +0400, Tony Hanmer wrote: > Thanks for asking, Tim! > > In the Fractint.cfg file, these modes cause an instant crash: > > SF9 ,256 color mode , 8, 1280, 1024,256, > CF2 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11,30000,22500,256,disk > CF3 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11,16304,12228,256,disk > CF4 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11,32608,24456,256,disk > CF5 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11, 3200, 2400,256,disk > > All but the first are ones I copied & pasted from other copies of the > file > which worked for me in other versions, especially but not only DOS > ones, > e.g. also WinFract versions. > > Thanks for any help you can offer, > > Tony > > On 12 August 2017 at 00:22, Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net> wrote: > > > > > Tony, could you provide me with details of examples that crash the > > SDL > > fractint? I can't tell from your report exactly what you were > > attempting. > > As simple an example as you can make would be useful. Is the > > problem mainly > > the video mode? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Tony Hanmer <a.hanmer(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Great to see! > > > Wanting to know how to add large disk render modes in > > > Fractint.cfg using > > > Notepad - I've cut & pasted some of my old ones from other DOS- > > > based > > > Fractints, but these cause the program to crash instantly, even > > > as small > > as > > > > > > 4000 by 3000 pixels, and I want to go as large as, say, 30000 by > > > 22500... > > > Help please? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tony Hanmer > > > Svaneti, Republic of Georgia > > > > > > On 7 August 2017 at 20:42, mchris(a)value.net - Webmail <mchris@val > > > ue.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Wow! This is pretty exciting for me. Have been wanting to dip > > > > my toe > > back > > > > > > > > > > > in but frankly time-slammed between work, getting my late > > > > parents' home > > > > ready for sale, and the upcoming eclipse. But I'll keep an eye > > > > on this > > > and > > > > > > > > probably check it out after the dust settles in a month or two > > > > on my > > Win > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > PC. > > > > > > > > Aloha, > > > > Bud > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim(a)tswegner.net> > > > > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" < > > > > fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:29:37 AM > > > > Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > > > > > > > > First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding > > > > job and > > can > > > > > > > > > > > only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't > > > > respond > > to > > > > > > > > > > > feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want > > > > feedback. > > > > > > > > That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL ( > > https://www.libsdl.org/) > > > > > > > > > > > port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including > > > > Windows 10. > > > This > > > > > > > > effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: > > > > http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the > > > > SDL*.zip file, > > > > dump > > > > the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and > > > > run it. > > > > > > > > The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, > > > > e.g. > > Ubuntu > > > > > > > > > > > Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. > > > > > > > > A couple of points. > > > > > > > > This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a > > > > normal > > > windows > > > > > > > > application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS > > > > fractint, and is > > > > probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic > > > > version. > > > This > > > > > > > > is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface > > > > features. > > > > > > > > This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things > > (probably > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > lot of things) don't. > > > > > > > > It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to > > > > give > > > this a > > > > > > > > try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic > > > > testing > > > > (might be premature). > > > > > > > > Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing > > > > the > > > results > > > > > > > > here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since > > > > Jonathan will > > > only > > > > > > > > occasionally be able to chime in. > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fractint mailing list > > > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fractint mailing list > > > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fractint mailing list > > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fractint mailing list > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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TranceLuna
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

HI, after installing the Creator´s Upgrade I am now justifying that name and after a long time of silence present a new and unique image: TranceLuna. Frm and Par included for convenience. This is the link to my archives but not sure if it has survived - if not Hal possibly can assist and present the completed image - MFR frms do not work with Winfract. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgk0ZUYt0OoehcWNb ; Cheers, Albrecht --------------------------------Start PAR---------------------------------- 35187-09 { ; TranceLuna reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=ident/ident/log/cosxx passes=t center-mag=-1.41928/-9.44046/4.889893/1/77.5000000000000142/-3.778227730\ 67748585e-014 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/31587.64595761235/45235.4\ 9118567307/152048.0404808023/4.160489401271/23.00682000095/256.107680300\ 1/512.1076803001/768.1076803001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=00004C00Oa00xd0000000000A40000<6>00000000AM0000000000Op00000<4>00\ 0<2>0000An00HG00Kj0000<10>000<4>00000Gg00H800GF00Aq0000000000A100<3>0000\ 0000v000<2>00000D000<17>000<4>000cAAzcmwwwKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKccc000KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKKKK000<6>000<3>00000100MK00000<3>000\ 0G8000<2>000006G00000000B003z009N000000000 } FRM:mfr_14_2 {; Albrecht Niekamp Apr.01,2015 Manowar2 Update ;P1 : Julia-Manowar-(Lambda)-(Magnet)-(Phoenix) seed ;RP2 Left: 5 Digit_Channels: (1)shape (2)out (3)ins_1 (4)ins_2 (5)ins_3 ; Frm: 0_off 1_Secant 2_Mand(2) 3_Bees 4_Jul/Manowar 5_Mmods ; 6_Phoenix 7_Newton 8_Lambda/Magnet ; Right: 2 Digit_ManyMods_Number of sides 2 Digit_Phoen 2 Digit_Lambd ; 1 Digit_TransReset-Shape: 0_no 1_DblMan 2_Iter 3_both +5_nowarp ; 4 Digit_TransReset-Ch 2-5: 0_no 1_z 2_Iter 3_both +5_warp ;IP2 Left: 5 Digit_Bailout Number for Channels 1 to 5 ; Right: Variables: 4 Digit_Mand/Jul (2var) 2 Digit_Secant 4 Digit_Bees ;RP3 Left: 2 Digit_Newtonvariable 4 Digits_bailout1 ; Right: 4 Digit_bailout2 4 Digit_bailout3 1 Digit_Magnet ;IP3 Left: 4 Digit_Shape: Warp-factor (fn1 or fn4 is used) ; Right: 4 Dig_bailout4 4 Dig_bailout5 1 Dig_mow=2 1 Dig_mag=2 1 Dig_fns ;RP4 Left: 4 Digit_Outside: Warp-factor (fn2 used) ; Right: Outside: 4 Digit+fractdig_Border-out 4 Digit+fractdig_border-in ;IP4 Left: Inside1_Maxiter ; Right: Inside1_Transit: 1_maxit 2_borderout 3_borderin +5_maxit+bord ; 5 Digit_warp factor (fn2 used) 4 Digit+fractaldigit_border1 ;RP5 Left: Inside2_Maxiter ; Right: Inside2_Transit: 1_maxit 2_borderout 3_borderin +5_maxit+bord ; 5 Digit_warp factor (fn3 used) 4 Digit+fractaldigit_border2 ;IP5 Left: Inside3_Maxiter ; Right: Inside3_Transit: 1_maxit 2_borderout 3_borderin +5_maxit+bord ; 5 Digits_Warp factor (fn4 used) 4 Digit+fractaldigit_border3 ;Function: fn4_Manymods, fn3_Bees, fn2+fn3+fn4(virtual P1)_Lambda(fn) z=pixel da=real(p2) dd=trunc(da) tt=dd>0 da=trunc(((da-dd)*100000000000)+11111) dd=trunc(dd+11111) d=trunc(dd/10000) dd=dd-d*10000 d3=(d==4)+(d==5)+(d==8)+(d==9) d4=d3==0 vb=d>5 ex0=(d>1) sc=d==2 mo=d==6 po=d==7 ab=po+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=trunc(dd/1000) dd=dd-d*1000 ex1=(d>1) sc1=d==2 mo1=d==6 po1=d==7 lx1=d==5 v1m=mo1+po1 v1j=d>7 dd1=v1j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab1=po1+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=trunc(dd/100) dd=dd-d*100 ex2=(d>1) sc2=d==2 mo2=d==6 po2=d==7 lx2=d==5 v2m=mo2+po2 v2j=d>7 dd2=v2j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab2=po2+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=trunc(dd/10) dd=dd-d*10 ex3=(d>1) sc3=d==2 mo3=d==6 po3=d==7 lx3=d==5 v3m=mo3+po3 v3j=d>7 dd3=v3j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab3=po3+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=dd ex4=(d>1) sc4=d==2 mo4=d==6 po4=d==7 lx4=d==5 v4m=mo4+po4 v4j=d>7 dd4=v4j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab4=po4+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) tt=ex1+ex0+ex2+ex3+ex4 ; mm=trunc(da/1000000000) da=da-mm*1000000000 ph=trunc(da/10000000) da=da-ph*10000000 px=trunc(da/100000) da=da-px*100000 d=trunc(da/10000) da=da-d*10000 wx=(d>4) d=d-5*wx dm=(d==2)+(d==4) ir0=(d==3)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/1000) da=da-d*1000 w1=d>4 d=d-5*w1 rs1=(d==2)+(d==4) ir1=(d==3)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/100) da=da-d*100 w2=d>4 d=d-5*w2 rs2=(d==2)+(d==4) ir2=(d==3)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/10) da=da-d*10 w3=d>4 d=d-5*w3 rs3=(d==2)+(d==4) ir3=(d==3)+(d==4) w4=da>4 da=da-5*w4 rs4=(da==2)+(da==3)+(da==4) if (ph==0) ph=p1 else ph=ph/10 endif w0=(wx==0) ; d=real(p3) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*10000000000) pp=trunc(dd/10000) ba1=dd-10000*pp ba2=trunc(da/1000000) da=da-1000000*ba2 ba3=trunc(da/100) da=da-100*ba3-4 mg=da/10 if (mg<1) mg=real(p1) endif ; d=imag(p3) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*100000000000) sfac=dd/1000000+(dd==0) ba4=trunc(da/10000000) da=da-ba4*10000000 ba5=trunc(da/1000) da=da-ba5*1000 d=trunc(da/100) mow=(d==2)+(d==3) mv=(d==3)+(da==4) da=da-d*100 d=trunc(da/10) mag=d==2 d=trunc(da-d*10) fdm=(d==4)+(d==7) fdb=(d==3)+(d==7) If (1<px) d=(trunc(px/10))/9 if (fdm) da=fn4(px-100*d) else da=exp(px-100*d) endif d=px/73,37 px=d+sqr(-da) else px=p1 endif ; d=real(p4) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*10000000000) ofac=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bh=trunc(da/100000)/10 bl=(da-bh*1000000)/10 bs=bl/2 ; d=imag(p2) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*10000000000) d=trunc(dd/10000) dd=dd-d*10000 bb0=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=trunc(dd/1000) dd=dd-d*1000 bb1=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=trunc(dd/100) dd=dd-d*100 bb2=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=trunc(dd/10) dd=dd-d*10 bb3=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=dd bb4=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) ; d=da p0=trunc(d/100000000)/10 d=d-p0*1000000000 p6=trunc(d/1000000)/10 d=d-p6*10000000 p7=trunc(d/10000)/10 d=d-p7*100000 dp=p6+p0/100 p8=trunc(d/100)/100 d=d-p8*10000 p9=d/100 ; d=imag(p4) mi1=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-mi1)*100000000000) d=trunc(da/10000000000) bt1=d>6 da=da-d*10000000000 d=d-5*bt1 dt1=d>1 iv1=d==3 dd=trunc(da/100000) da=da-dd*100000 fac1=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bo1=(da/100000)/10 ; d=real(p5) mi2=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-mi2)*100000000000) d=trunc(da/10000000000) bt2=d>6 da=da-d*10000000000 d=d-5*bt2 dt2=d>1 iv2=d==3 dd=trunc(da/100000) da=da-dd*100000 fac2=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bo2=(da/100000)/10 ; d=imag(p5) mi3=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-mi3)*100000000000) d=trunc(da/10000000000) bt3=d>6 da=da-d*10000000000 d=d-5*bt3 dt3=d>1 iv3=(d==3) dd=trunc(da/100000) da=da-dd*100000 fac3=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bo3=(da/100000)/10 ; if (vb) if (d3) if (ab) if (mag) c=z z=pixel mg=mg+(mg==0)*3 ;magnet x=mg else z=pixel ;lambdafn x=((1,0.4)*(|px|<=0)+px) m=(64*(real(bb0)<=0)+real(bb0)*(0<bb0)) endif else c=z z=pixel ;newton endif elseif (ab) c=z ;Phoenix z=pixel else c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) z=0 ;many mods endif elseif (d3) if (ab) if (mv) ;manowar+Julia bb0=(4*(real(p1)<=0)+real(p1)*(0<p1) ) if (lx1) bb1=bb0 elseif (lx2) bb2=bb0 elseif (lx3) bb3=bb0 elseif (lx4) bb4=bb0 endif endif c=p1 z=pixel else ;bees c=p1 z=pixel endif elseif (ab) c=z ;Mandel z=0 else c=z ;Secant z=pixel endif t=0 bo=|z| p=pp z0=p7 zold=(0.0,0.0) cb=p9 ba=bb0 : if (tt>0) t=t+1 if (ex0) ex0=t<mi1 if (bo>bs) u0=fn1(t*sfac) if (w0) u=u0 else u=1.0 endif ex0=0 if (ir0) t=0 endif if (d3) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else z=z*u if (mo) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) else c=pixel endif tt=tt-1+ex0 endif endif elseif ((ex1)&&bo>bl) if (bo<bh) d3=dd1 ba=bb1 ab=ab1 ex1=0 tt=tt-1 if (w1) u=fn2(t*ofac) else u=1.0 endif if (ir1) t=0 endif if (d3) vb=v1j if (rs1) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else z=z*u cb=p9 endif else vb=v1m if (rs1) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc1+po1) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif if (mo1) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif elseif (ex2) if (dt1) if (iv1) d=bo>bo1 else d=bo<bo1 endif if (bt1) d=d+(t>mi1) endif else d=t>mi1 endif if (d) ab=ab2 d3=dd2 ba=bb2 ex2=0 tt=tt-1 if (w2) u=fn2(t*fac1) else u=1.0 endif if (ir2) t=0 endif if (d3) vb=v2j if (rs2) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else cb=p9 z=z*u endif else vb=v2m if (rs2) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc2+po2) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif if (mo2) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif elseif (ex3) if (dt2) if (iv2) d=bo>bo2 else d=bo<bo2 endif if (bt2) d=d+(t>mi2) endif else d=t>mi2 endif if (d) ab=ab3 d3=dd3 ba=bb3 ex3=0 tt=tt-1 if (w3) u=fn3(t*fac2) else u=1.0 endif if (ir3) t=0 endif if (d3) vb=v3j if (rs3) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else cb=p9 z=z*u endif else vb=v3m if (rs3) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc3+po3) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif vb=v3m if (mo3) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif elseif (ex4) if (dt3) if (iv3) d=bo>bo3 else d=bo<bo3 endif if (bt3) d=d+(t>mi3) endif else d=t>mi3 endif if (d) ab=ab4 d3=dd4 ba=bb4 ex4=0 tt=0 if (w4) u=fn4(t*fac3) else u=1.0 endif if (d3) vb=v4j if (rs4) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else cb=p9 z=z*u endif else vb=v4m if (rs4) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc4+po4) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif if (mo4) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif endif endif if (vb) if (d3) if (ab) if (mag) ;magnet z=((z^x+c-1)/(2*z+c-2))^(x-1) else if (fdb) z=exp(z)*fn3(x) else z=exp(z)*sin(x) ;Lambdafn endif abs(imag(z))<=x && abs(real(z))<=m endif else z1=z^p-1 ;newton z2=p*z*z z=z-z1/z2 endif elseif (ab) z1=z*z+0.56+ph/100-0.5*zold zold=z ;Phoenix z=z1 else if (fdm) Z2=fn4(z)+c else z2=sin(z)+c ;Many_mods endif z1=cos(z2) z=c*(1-z1)/(1+z1) endif elseif (d3) if (ab) if (mow) z1=z ;manowar oldz=z z=sqr(oldz)+z1+c z1=oldz else ;Julia z2=z*z z=z2*z2+p6*z2+c-p0 endif else if (fdb) z1=fn3(z)-cb else z1=sin(z)-cb ;Bees endif z2=z1^p8-1 z3=p8*(z1^(p8-1)) z=z-(z2/z3) endif elseif (ab) if (dm) z=z*z+c+c*c-dp ;Double Mandel else z2=z*z ;Mandel z=z2*z2+p6*z2+c-p0 endif else z3=z ;Secant z1=z0*z0*z0*z0-1 z2=z*z*z*z-1 z=z-z2*(z-z0)/(z2-z1) z0=z3 endif bo=|z| bo<ba }

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Win10 Creators Upgrade
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

If you have installed it you will notice that the Oracle Virtual Box does not work anymore. But there is good news: Oracle has already published an update VirtualBox-5.1.27-117332-Win a socalled "Test" Verison, works perfectly and Fractint - including all Keystrokes - is faster than my previously used XP Computer. Cheers, Albrecht

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THIS FRACTINT OPERATING IN MY WINDOS -10 64 BITS, HURRAH !!!!
by marcusadriana＠mls.com.br 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Thanks Jonathan: I'm now back to my long missing Fractint. It worked perfectly in choosing the fractals, colors, but I'm still testing all its other potencialities. Marcus tIM: Citando fractint-request(a)mailman.xmission.com: > Send Fractint mailing list submissions to > fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fractint-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fractint-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fractint digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Windows SDL Port (Timothy Wegner) > 2. Re: Windows SDL Port (mchris(a)value.net - Webmail) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:29:37 -0500 > From: Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > Message-ID: > <CAFLr277cNLr81UdFyWt+mVQV61KbF_6MWVy0L53beF4f5a8GuA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding job and can > only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't respond to > feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want feedback. > > That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL (https://www.libsdl.org/) > port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including Windows 10. This > effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: > http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the SDL*.zip file, dump > the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and run it. > > The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, e.g. Ubuntu > Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. > > A couple of points. > > This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a normal windows > application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS fractint, and is > probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic version. This > is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface features. > > This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things (probably a > lot of things) don't. > > It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to give this a > try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic testing > (might be premature). > > Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing the results > here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since Jonathan will only > occasionally be able to chime in. > > Tim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:42:45 -0400 (EDT) > From: "mchris(a)value.net - Webmail" <mchris(a)value.net> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > Message-ID: > <2141376961.175806994.1502124165213.JavaMail.zimbra(a)value.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Wow! This is pretty exciting for me. Have been wanting to dip my toe > back in but frankly time-slammed between work, getting my late > parents' home ready for sale, and the upcoming eclipse. But I'll keep > an eye on this and probably check it out after the dust settles in a > month or two on my Win 10 PC. > > Aloha, > Bud > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim(a)tswegner.net> > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:29:37 AM > Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > > First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding job and can > only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't respond to > feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want feedback. > > That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL (https://www.libsdl.org/) > port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including Windows 10. This > effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: > http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the SDL*.zip file, dump > the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and run it. > > The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, e.g. Ubuntu > Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. > > A couple of points. > > This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a normal windows > application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS fractint, and is > probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic version. This > is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface features. > > This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things (probably a > lot of things) don't. > > It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to give this a > try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic testing > (might be premature). > > Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing the results > here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since Jonathan will only > occasionally be able to chime in. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Fractint Digest, Vol 173, Issue 2 > **************************************** >

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint execution timing.
by David Jones 30 Jul '17

30 Jul '17

You're welcome! I think the 2048x2048 is a disk video mode accessible from the Fractint list of video modes. Alt-shift-F6, IIRC. Doesn't depend on display resolution. Mine's only 1920x1080. (Oh for a lovely 4K display!) On Jul 29, 2017 05:31, John Wilson <1stdiscus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you David. I just tried your reference fractal,(the marksjulia) and > got an identical time to yours... 1m 03.16 secs, actually. Seems I'm in > the ballpark. The closest size I have to your disk video is > 1920x1440x256, which rendered in 17m 08.15. > My display is only 1366x768 however. > > On 29 July 2017 at 01:04, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote: > > > On 07/28/2017 01:50 PM, John Wilson wrote: > > > >> What's a known execution timing for running a Fractint fractal? I'd like > >> to know how my new system stacks up. Please? > >> > >> Installed Fractint in DOSBox on my brand new laptop, which is surprising > >> me > >> with its agility, under 64-bit Windows 7 Pro with a 500G SSD. I was > >> particularly pleased to find that the touch pad does a fine job in moving > >> fractal selections about... smoother than a mouse. My only problem is one > >> which has been with me forever... can't set up PCTOOLS to put saved gifs > >> into the correct directory. I have a mental block on that subject! > >> > > > > Hmm, maybe just pick one or more of the standard included fractals at some > > specific image resolution and note the Calculation Time shown time after > > it's generated? (Press TAB after it's complete to see the info.) > > > > I just ran the marksjulia with default values at 1280x1024x256 colors > > under DOSBox 0.74 on 64bit Debian Linux and Fractint reports it took > > 1m3.22s. I have a 2.4GHz i7 (4 cores, 8 with hyperthreading) laptop, 16GB > > RAM, 500GB SSD. > > > > Just for fun, I generated the same fractal in 2048x2048 disk-video mode > > while doing other things on the puter. It took 26m44.26s. > > > > For comparison, XFractint 20.04.10 (native Linux Fractint) rendered the > > marksjulia at 1920x1026x256 in .17 seconds. But it used floating point. > > > > I don't know how to make XFractint render images to disk video. Starting > > it with the "-disk" option still leaves the image size restricted to the > > size of the XFractint window. Specifying geometry of 2048x2048 gave me a > > big window, but the disk rendering still showed only 1920x1026 image size. > > :( David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com

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VirtualBox version of FreeDos with Fractint
by Harold Lane 11 Jun '17

11 Jun '17

David, Many thanks for your links to the VirtualBox version of FreeDos with Fractint included/embedded! I'm going to give this a try on my Win 10 computer. You said: "it's isolated from the rest of your system." I have a question: If Fractint writes its images to an isolated virtual hard drive, what methods can one use to get the Images from there to the Windows environment in order to share? - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David W Riccio Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:09 PM To: fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Fractint] JunoCam fractal video There is a VirtualBox version on https://fractint.net/ that works on Windows 10 (any Op Sys that will run VirtualBox) It is running in FreeDOS in a VM so it isolated from the rest of your system. Look at this link https://fractint.net/ftp/virtual_environments/ On 06/09/2017 03:56 PM, mchris(a)value.net - Webmail wrote: > Cool! > > My apologies, I've been in lurk mode for a while, not paying attention to any relevant posts on the subject. > > I bought a new computer last year, and want to get back into fractals. In there a version of Fractint that will run on Windoze 10, and if so where can I get it? I've been to the Fractint page: > > http://www.nahee.com/spanky/www/fractint/fractint.html > > It looks pretty dated. I've seen links for Windoze versions through third party sites, but hesitate to go that route. Want to get the latest/greatest. > > Aloha, > Bud > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim(a)tswegner.net> > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:39:08 PM > Subject: [Fractint] JunoCam fractal video > > Watch this full screen with the sound turned to maximum so as to enjoy > the sountrack excerpt from "2001: A Space Odyssey". Video by Gerald > Eichstädt reconstructed from JunoCam Images and SPICE Data and Seán > Doran who post-processed the original version, and added the sound track. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQbTBt418o&feature=youtu.be > > Youtube links are a little tricky, if I messed up try searching in > youtube for "Juno Perijove 06" > > A fine example of fractals in the natural world. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint -- -David Lemon Creek Digital www.lemoncreekdigital.com _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Fraqcel ~ A fractal explorer for MS Excel -- astounding, if not a hoax
by Harold Lane 11 Jun '17

11 Jun '17

I chanced across something astounding -- if it's not a hoax: "Fraqcel ~ A fractal explorer for MS Excel" http://tinyurl.com/Excel-fractal-explorer or: http://www.fractalforums.com/announcements-and-news/fraqcel-~-a-fractal-expl orer-for-ms-excel/ "VBA code is embedded into the Excel workbook and compiled at runtime" - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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DOSBox is another approach
by Timothy Wegner 11 Jun '17

11 Jun '17

I wouldn't want to discourage any of the discussions here about how to run Fractint under a modern OS, in fact I'd like to encourage them. Some folks have invested quality and skilled time with amazing technical experimentation. Just to say that the easiest way to run the DOS fractint on just about any platform under the sun is to use DOSBox. For the supported platforms see: https://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1. One caveat with DOSBox or any of the other methods is video mode support. To get the most out of fractint, the environment needs to have high resolution VESA video modes (if not using disk video). For this reason I prefer the so-called DOSBox svn builds (based on the svn source code, but with extensions), in particular the ones at http://ykhwong.x-y.net/, because they have better video support than the stock DOSBox I have even installed DOSBox on my Android phone and run Fractint, that that that arrangement is very usable (I had to install a different keyboard to get anything to work). I know we have touched on this subject before. Not bad that we are revisiting it again now. I'll be interested to see what folks come up with. Tim

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JunoCam fractal video
by Timothy Wegner 09 Jun '17

09 Jun '17

Watch this full screen with the sound turned to maximum so as to enjoy the sountrack excerpt from "2001: A Space Odyssey". Video by Gerald Eichstädt reconstructed from JunoCam Images and SPICE Data and Seán Doran who post-processed the original version, and added the sound track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQbTBt418o&feature=youtu.be Youtube links are a little tricky, if I messed up try searching in youtube for "Juno Perijove 06" A fine example of fractals in the natural world. Tim

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