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Re: [Fractint] Lloyd's Animation of Albrecht Niekamp's recent "Mandel Queen" image
by Harold Lane 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

> Re: Lloyd's Animation of Albrecht Niekamp's recent "Mandel Queen" image It *is* very odd how it breaks up at the end. When it started transitioning from filled areas to the thin lines, I thought, "Oops. Here's loss of significance starting." But, the patchy anomalies went away, and the sharp "line drawings" appeared and were zoomed into. Interesting transition. > Strange - when you back out past around e-5 the image remains the same. Go figure. Heaven only knows, (and Albrecht, too), what torture those iterates went through to make these "multi"-fractal images! I set the speed at 50% on my VLC video player so the video wouldn't go by so quickly -- and so I could savor the structures as they appeared and enlarged. Single frame stepping in some places let me better understand some of the features that were flying by, too. I also tried enlarging the video to approximately fill my screen. The motion of the images kept the slight blurring of small structures from being too distracting. The larger video area made the experience of flying down the "Time Tunnel" much more real. Nice vivid colors and structures, Albrecht! Thanks for the trip down the Time Tunnel, Lloyd! - Hal Lane ######################## # mailto:hallane@earthlink.net ######################## From: LLOYD GARRICK [mailto:lgarr@colorado-hiking.net] Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 8:50 AM To: Albrecht Niekamp <xxfractalist(a)outlook.com>; Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net>; Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Warp_Nine Animation of Albrecht Niekamp's recent "Mandel Queen" image is posted: http://www.fractal-animation.net/TimeTunnel.zip 800x600 AVI, 280Meg Strange - when you back out past around e-5 the image remains the same. Go figure. Also interesting how it breaks up and dissolves at the end - never seen that before, usually these type zooms continue forever. Two viddies - one at 30fps, the other at 60fps. (Nice) comments welcome! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Warp_Nine
by Albrecht Niekamp 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

Warp Nine ; It´s the top speed for the Defiant and pushes it to the limits, Same does this image with Fractint and your computer. It´s the same parent image Jonathan used for testing the dosbox. The warp effect is unique just like the complete multifractal concept. It has 3 components which are applied to "z" or the frm variable, depends if it is a mandel or a julia type: The factor - a fix variable, the function and the actual number or iterations. The effect is that the image changes with iterations as can be watched today. There is one warp number for each position in the calculation sequence: shape, outside, inside 1 to 3. So t is possible to use a frm 2 or 3 times with or without warpeffect. Did that today using this sequence: ManyMods, Magnet, Manowar, Magnet-warp, Manowar warp. If you look at image 2 you can see how the otherwise identical Mmods circles change.In the middle there is only dust but if you zoom into it every dot is a new image. Zoom anywhere and you get a different image everytime, maybe even a mandel. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxUeVoCm4etEj7tlA ; --------------------------------------------------Start par----------------------------------------------------- Warp_Nine { ; 58484-03 ; Time 0.13.57.03 Reso 1280/1024 ; Mmods-magnet-manowar-magnet-manowar ; inside 2 and 3 warped reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=sin/exp/tan/cosh passes=t center-mag=-21/0/0.05/1/-90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=1.42593798638874/0.444792016357921/58484.09595701157/51222.050603\ 0602/150248.0404808025/384.1604894022/384.00482000595/1280.1000763001/19\ 20.1002393001/2560.1003293001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000B8S<3>8Yk7dp6ku5rz<3>6go6dl7bj<3>8R_8OX9LU9IR<6>8YG8_F8bD<3>6k\ 76n56p35s25u0<3>5c05Z05U0<3>5B0<3>UY0`b0fh0<2>zz0<6>oc1m`1lX1<3>fK3dH3bE\ 3`A3<16>q8Ar8Bs8Bt8Bu8Bw7Cw8Dv8Dv9E<5>xAVxAXxA_<3>zCjzCmzCmzCmzzzYXc<3>J\ hnFkqBnt7qw<15>KGaLE`MBZ<2>P4VQ1TT4U<3>bGZdK_gN`<3>r_f<3>ggPeiKbkF<2>Uq1\ Xq2_q4<3>MU7JO7FI8<2>40B<3>50E50F50G50H00E<2>A8TEHaIQj3Yqbe_FYI0L0<3>yrB\ <3>yB3z00t60<3>UY0Nd0Gk0<2>ns1zz0<3>zI4z66w67<3>h3Fe2Ha1JY0L<3>t8qzAzuAv\ <3>ZEdTE`OFX<2>6IJ<3>YcMdiMknNrtOzzP<6>IFR } Warp_Nine Max Zoom { ; 58484-09 ; Time 0.28.59.06 Reso 1280/1024 ; Mmods-magnet-manowar-magnet-manowar ; inside 2 and 3 warped reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=sin/exp/tan/cosh passes=t center-mag=-31.60075969712862000/+0.00025255486496303/1066558/1/-32.5000\ 000020080861/-9.51213539185369328e-009 params=1.42593798638874/0.444792016357921/58484.09595701157/51222.050603\ 0602/150248.0404808025/384.1604894022/384.00482000595/1280.1000763001/19\ 20.1002393001/2560.1003293001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<24>000000000<3>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K\ 0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zw\ m<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<43>000<4>000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<\ 2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR\ 0C<3>A08004000000 } Warp_Nine WarpDemo { ; 58484-05 ; Time 0.17.29.57 Reso 1280/1024 ; Mmods-magnet-manowar-magnet-manowar ; inside 2 and 3 warped reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=sin/exp/tan/cosh passes=t center-mag=-31.6054/-3.10862e-015/8.196721/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=1.42593798638874/0.444792016357921/58484.09595701157/51222.050603\ 0602/150248.0404808025/384.1604894022/384.00482000595/1280.1000763001/19\ 20.1002393001/2560.1003293001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=0003z009N00000000004C00Oa00xd0000000000A40000<6>00000000AM0000000\ 000Op00000<4>000<2>0000An00HG00Kj0000<10>000<4>00000Gg00H800GF00Aq000000\ 0000A100<3>00000000v000<2>00000D000<17>000<4>000cAAzcmwwwKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc000KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKKKK000<6>000<3>000001\ 00MK00000<3>0000G8000<2>000006G00000000B00 }

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When I click on your Albrect's Dropbox links...
by Harold Lane 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

------ Mike Frazier said: ----------- > When I click on your [Albrect's] [Dropbox] links I go to a page with a login box requesting an account and password. Nothing else is visible. When I click Albrect's Dropbox links I usually get that login box on my Win10 Firefox browser: http://tinyurl.com/OneDrive-SignIn-NoAcct-Create1 or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/OneDrive-SignIn-NoAcct-Create1.jpg However, I'm almost always able to dismiss it with its "X" or the <Esc> key. [ If his link is to a single image, I'm often not able to navigate around his Dropbox folder structure, (as I sometime would like to.) ] The login box also has a "No account? Create one!" offer. I'm guessing that they're making people jump thru the hoop of having to dismiss their login popup -- in hopes that people will mistakenly believe that they must sign up for an account to get to what the link is supposed to be providing. If they can get someone to sign up for an account, they likely feel like they have a chance of selling them added storage above the free amount. Just my 2 cents. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1
by Mike Frazier 02 Feb '18

02 Feb '18

Here is a fractal from the same formula I used in my previous post Galactic Amoebas. There are a lot of different shapes and dotted outlines depending on where you look. I made a fairly large image (4000 x 3000, 3.0 Mb) so you can see better detail. If you open it in a browser make sure to click the image to be able to see it at full size. Here is a link: https://i.imgur.com/1pBFSy6.jpg If anyone is looking for a free image hosting service to use to post your images I would suggest Imgur. The account is free and you can post a direct link to your image without embedding it in a page. Here is the PAR file: pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1 { ; Exported from Fracton. reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=fracton.frm formulaname=F_20180130_1228 passes=1 float=y center-mag=-4.629432230639413/0/2283874.889280316/\ 1/0/0 params=1/0/-1/0/0/333/0/0/0/0 maxiter=5000 inside=0 outside=tdis colors=000CpEAnG9mIDcLGVOJMRLOPNPMPRKRTITVFVWDXYBY\ Z9XiYXtuSloNdiIXbEPXCUYA_Z8d_6j`4pa2uaBq`Ll`Uh_ccZ\ cYbbSebNiaHlaCoa6ra1u`4p_7jZAeYE_YHVTJWOKWJLWENWAO\ W5PW1QW8UZGYaObdWfgcjjknmsrpzvryqrxmqwhqvcpu_ptVps\ RpmVmfYi_afUebOiZHlWBpS5sP5mO6gO6aN7WN8QN8KM9EM88K\ 89M9AN9BPACRADS89N66I53D408908F19K2AQ3BW4C`5Df6Ek6\ EoFKtNPzVUzbZzkczshztbzuYzvczwczzczzczzczfc7zf7zh8\ zgKzgKzfUzfczeczeczfczhcziczjwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzz\ wzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwz\ zwzwwzwwzmwzmwzgwzcwzTwzRwzPwzOwzKwzHwzEwzBwz8wzFw\ zMwzTwz_wzfwzmwztwzzwzqwzhwzZwzQwzHwbUwZewVqwMiwMd\ wN_wNWwORwONVONUONUNMUNMTNMTNMTMLSMLSMLSMLSMLSLKRL\ KRKJRKJQKJQKJQKJQKJQKJPKJPJIPJIPJIOIHOIHOIHNIHeLTh\ GNYFINEDCD81D45O89YBAcBBiBCoBDuBNg9YU7hG5s34lB6fK8\ _TATaCNiEGrGAzILlQW_XfMdeLedLecKfbKfaKf`Kf`KfAlfBk\ hCijDhlEfnFeoHcqIbsFsADqC } frm:F_20180130_1228 { ; Original PAR file from Jim Muth. ; Modified for use in parallel resistor formula esc=(16),b=imag(p3), c1=p1+pixel,c2=p2+pixel, z=1/(1/c1+1/c2): z1=(b)*(z*z/(1/z+b)), z=1/(1/(z1+c1)+1/(z1+c2)), |z|<esc } -- Mike Frazier www.fracton.org

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Fractal Treasure
by Albrecht Niekamp 01 Feb '18

01 Feb '18

Fractal Treasure ; Buried in the sand.... If the conditions are just right the warp effect will create images that are not from this world. The problem is to find them... Here it was a spot with extreme high iterations, that looked different in the sand. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0xzDwDhoim85A2NQ ; Albrecht ; -----------------------Start Par------------------------------------------- Fractal Treasure { ; 58484-15 ; Warp_Nine Deep Zoom ; Time 0.23.12.00 Reso 1280/1024 ; buried in the sand reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=sin/exp/tan/cosh passes=t center-mag=-31.60938318670573000/+0.04901621058117994/1906.214/1/7.49999\ 999999176836/-8.81137038333257294e-011 params=1.42593798638874/0.444792016357921/58484.09595701157/51222.050603\ 0602/150248.0404808025/384.1604894022/384.00482000595/1280.1000763001/19\ 20.1002393001/2560.1003293001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=0003z009N00000000004C00Oa00xd0000000000A40000<6>00000000AM0000000\ 000Op00000<4>000<2>0000An00HG00Kj0000<10>000<4>00000Gg00H800GF00Aq000000\ 0000A100<3>00000000v000<2>00000D000<17>000<4>000cAAzcmwwwKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc000KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKKKK000<6>000<3>000001\ 00MK00000<3>0000G8000<2>000006G00000000B00 } }

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Warp_Nine - A nice one
by Albrecht Niekamp 01 Feb '18

01 Feb '18

And to close the day just a nice one: Only a Mandel, but a beauty you have not seen before.. https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0vwehrF0Ofjd5x4g ; Albrecht ------------------------------------------------------------------Start par-------------------------------------------; Warp_Nine-Zoom { ; 58484-13 ; Time 0.14.30.20 Reso 1280/1024 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=sin/exp/tan/cosh passes=t center-mag=-2.41/-6.10623e-016/2.849328/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=1.42593798638874/0.444792016357921/58484.09595701157/51222.050603\ 0602/150248.0404808025/384.1604894022/384.00482000595/1280.1000763001/19\ 20.1002393001/2560.1003293001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000zCmzCmzCmzzzYXc<3>JhnFkqBnt7qw<15>KGaLE`MBZ<2>P4VQ1TT4U<3>bGZd\ K_gN`<3>r_f<3>ggPeiKbkF<2>Uq1Xq2_q4<3>MU7JO7FI8<2>40B<3>50E50F50G50H00E<\ 2>A8TEHaIQj3Yqbe_FYI0L0<3>yrB<3>yB3z00t60<3>UY0Nd0Gk0<2>ns1zz0<3>zI4z66w\ 67<3>h3Fe2Ha1JY0L<3>t8qzAzuAv<3>ZEdTE`OFX<2>6IJ<3>YcMdiMknNrtOzzP<3>`_QV\ TQOMRIFRB8S<3>8Yk7dp6ku5rz<3>6go6dl7bj<3>8R_8OX9LU9IR<6>8YG8_F8bD<3>6k76\ n56p35s25u0<3>5c05Z05U0<3>5B0<3>UY0`b0fh0<2>zz0<6>oc1m`1lX1<3>fK3dH3bE3`\ A3<16>q8Ar8Bs8Bt8Bu8Bw7Cw8Dv8Dv9E<7>xA_yBbyBezCgzCj }

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Re: [Fractint] [fractint} pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1
by Albrecht Niekamp 01 Feb '18

01 Feb '18

OK , accepted. I just did not like to see 2 Imgur cookies on my omputer that windows could not block and that transmit your address to who knows and are used for spying. Other cloud services do not do that, just will not open images from that sender anymore.. Albrecht On 31.01.2018 22:44, Timothy Wegner wrote: > I respect your concern, but right now I don't see any reason to ban > Mike Frazier.

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Albrecht's formulas/pars and Fracton?
by David W. Jones 01 Feb '18

01 Feb '18

Just curious. I'm thinking they might work better because Fracton doesn't suffer from the memory limitations of DOS Fractint? -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail.

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[fractint} pr_2d-1_2d-1_M1
by Albrecht Niekamp 31 Jan '18

31 Jan '18

Tim, the presented image is a fake one that cannot be reproduced with Fractint and probably is modified by some imaging software. I have the impression that it serves as adware for the proposed cloud service that requires an account. I think it´s essential that the Fractint forum remains free of such threats and please consider if the sender can be blocked. Thank you Albrecht

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The ORB - Trip_Fantastique
by Albrecht Niekamp 31 Jan '18

31 Jan '18

The ORB - Trip_Fantastique ; A deeper look into The ORB, the shrine built by the timeless aliens living in the wormhole. One more of the wonders of the WonderWheel. ; I just start to explore the things possible with the latest wdition of the MFR software. And there is a world I have not even touched: The warp effect to be applied separately to each participating frm - a new variation with every iteration ! I really want someone had the courage to create own images, the Start Kit really makes it easy. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0qqiGsxny6aR8wJA ; Albrecht --------------------------------------Start par----------------------------- 57508-43 { ; The ORB-Trip_Fantastique ; Time 0.30.14.02 128/1024 ; Zoom into the WonderWheel ; Fantastic Colors S.Gallet reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=+0.30020384377523860/+0.00076103283407476/611247.3/1/-122.499\ 999999945302/8.43105307790636971e-011 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000WkBPf7Ia5CW27R13M01H00C0081253625B08H0CN0GU1K`3Pg6TmAYrEbvJfyO\ jzTnzZrxcuuhwpmyjqzduzYwzRyyKzwEzu8yr4wo1uk0qg0mc2hZ5cU9ZQFTLLOHSJDZE9eA\ 6k63q32u10x00z00z01y22v54r87lCAfHE_MITRMMXR<2>5kd2ph0sl0vp1ys3zv7zxDzyJx\ zPvzXszboxijvoett`qwWmzQizLeyG`wBXs7Sn4Nh2Jb0FW0BP07I15C327613A01F00J00P\ 12U36_5Bd8HiCNnGUrK`uPgxTmzYrzbvzfyyjzwnztrxquulwphyjbzdYzYTzRNy<2>89r45\ o13k01g00c20Z51U92QF5LL8HSDDZH9eM6kS3qX2ub0xg0zl0zp1yt2vw4ry7<2>_zITxMMv\ R<2>5jd2eh0_l0Vp1Ps3Kv7FxDByJ7zP4zX1zb0xi0vo0tt2qw4mz7izBeyF`wKXsPSnVNh_\ JbeFWjBPn7Ir5Cv27x13z01z00z00y12w36t5Bp8HlC<3>gSTmMYrHbvDfy8jz5nz2rx1uu0\ wp0yj1zd3zY6zR9y<2>8Nr4To1Yk0bg0hc2lZ5qU9tQFwLLyHSzD<2>kx3qu2ur0xn0zi0zd\ 1y_2vU4rP7lJAfFE_AIT6MM3RG1WA0_50d20h02l04p17s3Bv7GxDLyJQzPWzX`zbexijvoo\ ttsqwvmzxizzeyz`wzXsyS<2>bpF }

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DosBox SVN Daum http://ykhwong.xo.st/
by Albrecht Niekamp 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

Calculated yesterday´s image with above DosBox again for testing and comparison. 57508-40 and 41. No difference as you can see. There´s no memory problem either, still free blocks and the memory eater evolution mode works perfectly. BUT !! It´s awfully slow. I set the cpu cycles to max and the priority to highest but caculation time is still some hours instead of 30min with VirtualXP Dosmode. So the SDL platform is not "the yellow of the egg" as we say in Germany. Cannot test Jonathan´s SDL Fractint as 1280/1024 and the mmods frm do not work as yet, but it´s a bit faster I suppose. Anyway as an alternative or for sound it is ok. Bill, you say MFR calculation stops after some minutes. Please test this Dosbox. If it still happens you may have a cooling problem with your CPU. Clean it and/or get an additional cooler. There still exist some means to futher speed up performance - increase cpu cycles manually or set a fixed value, which means stress for the CPU of course. I have not changed anymore settings of the config file, maybe there still are some more possible adjustments. Please state if you know any. Thanks. The link is for the DosBox version. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0p6k3LIyUm2N4zAA ; Albrecht

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The ORB
by Albrecht Niekamp 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

The ORB is a shrine built by the aliens who live in the wormhole next to DeepSpaceNine. If you open it you fall into a trance and step out of time... It´s another zoom into the WonderWheel (nr.8) inviting you to get lost in all the details, maybe the best after the TimeMachine. ; Bill and Tim thank you for the good coperation that finally was successfull, just like in the old Fractint times. Albrecht ---------------------------------------------------Start Par---------------- The ORB { ; 575808-40 ; Zoom into the Wonderwheel ; Time 0.31.13.23 Reso 1280/1024 ; Colors by S.Gallet reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=0.265885/5.55112e-017/26.08696/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000WkBPf7Ia5CW27R13M01H00C0081253625B08H0CN0GU1K`3Pg6TmAYrEbvJfyO\ jzTnzZrxcuuhwpmyjqzduzYwzRyyKzwEzu8yr4wo1uk0qg0mc2hZ5cU9ZQFTLLOHSJDZE9eA\ 6k63q32u10x00z00z01y22v54r87lCAfHE_MITRMMXR<2>5kd2ph0sl0vp1ys3zv7zxDzyJx\ zPvzXszboxijvoett`qwWmzQizLeyG`wBXs7Sn4Nh2Jb0FW0BP07I15C327613A01F00J00P\ 12U36_5Bd8HiCNnGUrK`uPgxTmzYrzbvzfyyjzwnztrxquulwphyjbzdYzYTzRNy<2>89r45\ o13k01g00c20Z51U92QF5LL8HSDDZH9eM6kS3qX2ub0xg0zl0zp1yt2vw4ry7<2>_zITxMMv\ R<2>5jd2eh0_l0Vp1Ps3Kv7FxDByJ7zP4zX1zb0xi0vo0tt2qw4mz7izBeyF`wKXsPSnVNh_\ JbeFWjBPn7Ir5Cv27x13z01z00z00y12w36t5Bp8HlC<3>gSTmMYrHbvDfy8jz5nz2rx1uu0\ wp0yj1zd3zY6zR9y<2>8Nr4To1Yk0bg0hc2lZ5qU9tQFwLLyHSzD<2>kx3qu2ur0xn0zi0zd\ 1y_2vU4rP7lJAfFE_AIT6MM3RG1WA0_50d20h02l04p17s3Bv7GxDLyJQzPWzX`zbexijvoo\ ttsqwvmzxizzeyz`wzXsyS<2>bpF }

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The ORB - Link
by Albrecht Niekamp 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

Sorry, forgot to include it ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0oYOWZIxSazTwwjQ ; Albrecht

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Re: [Fractint] // I have little interest in visual fractals of any stripe. //
by Harold Lane 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

> I have little interest in visual fractals of any stripe. I know you work with audio a lot. I used to, too, but I'm no longer able to because of problems with my ears. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Jemison Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 12:53 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] DosBox SVN Daum As I pointed out to you I use Dosbox SVN-Daum on my Win10 64bit system. It works very well for my needs (audio fractals) but I haven’t been able to run multifrac successfully - it bombs out after various time periods. That is of little concern for me, as I am only interested in their possible audio fractal explorations. I have little interest in visual fractals of any stripe. On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 3:28 AM Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> wrote: > Once again asking for assistance to use it > on Win10_64bit. > Dont really exspect that there is any > because on the DosBox homepage Win10 > is not listed anymore as compatible OS. > This is part of the Microsoft policy > to cut user rights, call that update or even > worse "upgrade" in favor of spy and adware. > In the dosbox forum it was stated that even > VirtualXP has been killed and can no > longer be installed on win10. > So after the next patchday be aware. > Part of this policy is that updates cannot > be shut off anymore, even if the service > is deactivated. Had to learn that the hard way, > when uploading to OneDrive was interrupted > by automatic updating with forced newstart. > Sorry if you object, felt that this was necessary > because it hits Fractint badly. > Albrecht > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: [Fractint] DOSBox SVN-Daum
by Albrecht Niekamp 30 Jan '18

30 Jan '18

Who says you´re not an expert.? It works, my splash screen shows up after start !! Thanks a lot !!! Albrecht On 29.01.2018 21:46, Bill Jemison wrote: > albrecht - it sounds to me as if you don't have your fractint files in > the place(s) that DOSbox is expecting to find them. (I don't think Mr. > Gates is conspiring on this). > > Here is my file structure: > > > 1)As you can see, I have my fractint versions in separate directories > under K:\fractals. So, as shown, version 2004p14 is in > K:\fractals\f2004p14. > > 2)As you can also see, I have all the associated files for fractint > contained in _that directory_, including fractint.cfg and sstools.ini. > I realize that it is certainly possible that you have a more > complicated setup for your file structure, but this setup works for > me, and perhaps if you could try copying your files into a similar > structure just to get Dosbox going you could adjust from there. > > 3)My Dosbox configuration file contains the following - located at > the end of the file: > > **************************************** > [autoexec] > # Lines in this section will be run at startup. > # You can put your MOUNT lines here. > > #### Mount a disk D and point it to the fractals directory #### > Mount D K:\fractals > > #### go to that disk #### > d: > > #### change the directory to the version of fractint I want to run #### > cd\f2004p14 > > #### I use this as a toggle between versions #### > #cd\f1961p > > #### enter the startup command for fractint #### > fractint.exe textsafe=save maxhistory=100 > > ************************************************* > > I'll admit that I am not at all an expert on setting up fractint. I > don't use any autoexec files to run it (other than the autoexec > section of DOSBox SVN-Daum config file shown above). I've got a one > track mind in regards to fractint. I am only really interested in > audio, and this setup works for me. > > I think it is informative to note the following: > > If you contrast my K:\fractals\f2004p14 directory to the > K:\fractals\f1961p directory you will see that the K:\fractals\f1961p > doesn't contain all the fractint related files and directories: > > > This setup means that the only par file it finds is 8_30.par. It is > blind to the other pars in any other directory, meaning that they > should be included explicitly in all directories which fractint is run > from. I am sure there are ways to get around this, but I don't know > how, and as long as I can get things working as I am able to, I am > willing to maybe not have the most efficient setup. > > I hope this helps. If you have questions ask...I'll try to answer. > > Bill > Audio Fractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home> > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Albrecht Niekamp > <Multifrac(a)t-online.de <mailto:Multifrac@t-online.de>> wrote: > > Thanks, Bill > but did not work as exspected - must have some > other reason, possibly user rights, after all. > Re multifrac pars pls experiment with memory > settings in config (umb, ems etc)- ems should be set to false > if I remember well. > > On 27.01.2018 23:37, Bill Jemison wrote: > > However, I have not been able to reliably run multifrac pars, > as I have said previously. I hope this helps you in some way. > > >

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Re: [Fractint] DOSBox SVN-Daum
by Albrecht Niekamp 29 Jan '18

29 Jan '18

Thank you, Bill It´s a good try and works with my changes perfectly in VirtualXP - so I will keep it but with DOSBOX just nothing happens - fractint does not start apparently - i use the dosbox SVN Daum that Hal suggested with a lot of aditional settings in the program folder. And another hot tip: VirtualXP from Oracle has been updated and could be easily installed on Win10-64bit. Albrecht Am 29.01.2018 um 21:46 schrieb Bill Jemison: > albrecht - it sounds to me as if you don't have your fractint files in > the place(s) that DOSbox is expecting to find them. (I don't think Mr. > Gates is conspiring on this).

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Dosbox SVN Daum and DosBox 0.74
by Albrecht Niekamp 29 Jan '18

29 Jan '18

This is the list of compatible Win Systems as per Chip downloads * Windows 8 * Windows 7 * Windows Vista * Win XP * Win 2000 * Win Me * Win 98 Once again asking for assistance to use it on Win10_64bit. Dont really exspect that there is any because also on the DosBox homepage Win10 is not listed anymore as compatible OS. This is part of the Microsoft policy to cut user rights, call that update or even worse "upgrade" in favor of spy and adware. In the dosbox forum it was stated that even VirtualXP has been killed and can no longer be installed on win10. So after the next patchday be aware. Part of this policy is that updates cannot be shut off anymore, even if the service is deactivated. Had to learn that the hard way, when uploading to OneDrive was interrupted by automatic updating with forced newstart. Sorry if you object, felt that this was necessary because it hits Fractint badly. Albrecht _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Re: [Fractint] Dosbox SVN Daum and DosBox 0.74
by Jonathan Osuch 28 Jan '18

28 Jan '18

Albrecht > > Once again asking for assistance to use it > on Win10_64bit. See: www.dosbox.com/wiki/SVN_Builds DosBox 0.74 works for me under Win10 64-bit. Can change to 1024x768 graphics mode. Using your 58484-w7a PAR as a test case I get a bunch of sqrtl domain error messages, but then the fractal generates. DosBox SVN-lfn using the one compiled with MinGW starts (the one compiled with Visual C did not), did not let me change the Fractint graphics mode to anything above 320x200. The latest version of DosBox SVN Daum lets me change Fractint to 1024x768, but the text screens are messed up. Running 58484-w7a gives the error "FPU stack overflow". See the description in the wiki above, it is listed under Obsolete SVN/CVS builds. Perhaps an earlier version will work. I think that is how that all went. I didn't take good notes. My sticky (and memory) ran out of room. At any rate, the only one that I got to work with 58484-w7a was DosBox 0.74. The Linux version of Fractint (both the old version and the SDL 64-bit version) run 58484-w7a with no problems. The Windows version of SDL Fractint has problems because the compiler has problems with how long double variables are handled. I have tried 4 or 5 different compilers with no success (hence the last executable was non-functional). I want to use similar compilers (gcc) in Linux and Windows to minimize the use of compile time workarounds (#ifdef statements), which make debugging more difficult. Jonathan

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DosBox SVN Daum
by Albrecht Niekamp 28 Jan '18

28 Jan '18

Once again asking for assistance to use it on Win10_64bit. Dont really exspect that there is any because on the DosBox homepage Win10 is not listed anymore as compatible OS. This is part of the Microsoft policy to cut user rights, call that update or even worse "upgrade" in favor of spy and adware. In the dosbox forum it was stated that even VirtualXP has been killed and can no longer be installed on win10. So after the next patchday be aware. Part of this policy is that updates cannot be shut off anymore, even if the service is deactivated. Had to learn that the hard way, when uploading to OneDrive was interrupted by automatic updating with forced newstart. Sorry if you object, felt that this was necessary because it hits Fractint badly. Albrecht

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DOSBox SVN-Daum .conf file info
by Harold Lane 28 Jan '18

28 Jan '18

Bill, Albrecht is talking about DOSBox SVN-Daum. Are you running DOSBox SVN-Daum or the original DOSBox, Bill? I think I remember reading on the internet that their configuration files are different in places and potentially incompatible. Tim Wegner is running DOSBox SVN-Daum under Windows 10. See below. Albrecht, Please see Tim's [Fractint] 1/25/2018 [Fractint] post about the configuration file for DOSBox Daum. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just found a voluminous DOSBox SVN-Daum .conf file! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The bottom of the last post on this page by "waltc": https://www.gog.com/forum/stonekeep/full_screen_mode includes a link to a DOSBox SVN-Daum .conf file that has a .jpg extension with the instructions "Here's my conf file...(just remove the .jpg to view)" -- which did not work for me. I discovered that some browsers (e.g.: Firefox) refuse to display this text file, so once I successfully viewed it with MS IE, I put it on my server with a .txt extension if you want to look at it. It appears to contain a tremendous number of options to get many specific DOS games (and the hardware they require) running. Fractint's needs are comparatively simple -- hi res graphics -- and possibly a sound card, so we won't need *everything* that "waltc" has in their .conf file. Here's that DOSBox SVN-Daum .conf file: http://tinyurl.com/DOSBox-SVN-Daum-conf-file or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/DOSBox_SVN-Daum/_List_of_commands_in_a_DOSB… "waltc" further says: ---------------------------- I'd strongly advise you to use this version of Dosbox: http://ykhwong.xo.st/ It is Dosbox-svn-daum and it is much better than the anemic version of dosbox Gog [Great Old Games -Hal] ships, imo. This version of Dosbox svn-daum (published Jan 27 2014) includes a 64-bit version of dosbox & allows you to use any of a wide variety of pixel shaders...Highly recommended... I run the game [StoneKeep, I think] @ 1920x1200 with a D3d pixel shader that cleans up the graphics significantly...but there's only so much that's possible with this old game, as you note...;)...I found that the 64-bit version of dosbox pretty much doubles the animation and game frame rates and of course allows the game to use more ram and resources than the 32-bit version of dosbox.exe. ---------------------------- I'm guessing that Fractint doesn't use pixel shaders, so this particular concern may not apply to Fractint -- just to live action games. Another user, "iancurtis", on that page listed their graphics settings. Here they are: ------------------------------ My graphic settings: (dont know which shader to use there for best quality) fullscreen=false fulldouble=false fullresolution=desktop windowresolution=1920x1200 output=direct3d autolock=true sensitivity=100 waitonerror=true priority=higher,normal mapperfile=mapper-SVN-Daum.map pixelshader= usescancodes=false overscan=0 ------------------------------ I believe that some of these commands are likely to be the same as in "vanilla" (non-SVN-Daum) DOSBox, so the DOSBox Wiki may will give useful info about these commands for use in DOSBox SVN-Daum: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/ Their discussion of the vanilla DOSBox .conf file is here: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Dosbox.conf I also found a page that discusses: "Is there a way to make a Windows shortcut that will run a dos program through DosBox automatically, without the need to open DosBox mount a drive etc. manually?" http://tinyurl.com/Windows-shortcut-2run-Fractint or: https://superuser.com/questions/195755/windows-shortcut-that-runs-through-d… Doing this allows just a double click on the shortcut icon to set up and run Fractint in DOSBox SVN-Daum. Tim Wegner posted: -------------------------------------------------- I have SVN Daum working fine under Windows 10. The *.conf file has a different name for the Daum version than for the regular DOSBox. Mine is: C:\Users\twegner\AppData\Local\DOSBox\SVN-Daum.conf The fractint-specific part of the conf file is at the bottom: [autoexec] # Lines in this section will be run at startup. # You can put your MOUNT lines here. mount c c:\fractint c: fractint My fractint setup is in c:\fractint under windows 10. So under DOS_Box the fractint directory is c:\, and my autoexec.bat runs fractint (that's really optional). You will need to do something more to give DOSBox access to your fractal files directory. ----------------------------------------------------- Please note Tim's: "You will need to do something more to give DOSBox access to your fractal files directory." Here's a wild guess: Possibly another Mount command pointing to your fractal files directory?... Tim, Do you know if my guess is right? <---<< <---<< I'm getting interested in trying to get Fractint running in DOSBox SVN-Daum... I got a Windows copy of DOSBox SVN-Daum (Jan. 25. 2015 ver.) from: http://ykhwong.xo.st/ > Download > DOSBox SVN builds - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Jemison Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:23 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] SDL Version Albrecht - I will email you myconfig file for DOSBox, which works on my W10 64bit system. Bill Jemison Audio Fractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> wrote: > My system is Win10_64bit. > Due to fundamental problems I have > given up using the SDL Version, these > are not caused by the MFR Software. > Now trying to use DosBox SVN Daum, > installed inspite a warning on the net. > Problem: Fractint completely fails : > on all searches "nofiles" error, - images, > frms, pars and so on also Not caused by > "autoexecute" ! > All known versions of sstools tested, > inside or outside the Fractint folder, > manual reso calling does not help. > Maybe it´s a problem of user rights > or lack of 16bit support after latest "upgrade". > Any help welcome, > Albrecht > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: DOSBox SVN-Daum
by Albrecht Niekamp 28 Jan '18

28 Jan '18

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: DOSBox SVN-Daum Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 01:01:30 +0100 From: Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> To: Bill Jemison <bill.jemison(a)gmail.com> Thanks, Bill but did not work as exspected - must have some other reason, possibly user rights, after all. Re multifrac pars pls experiment with memory settings in config (umb, ems etc)- ems should be set to false if I remember well. On 27.01.2018 23:37, Bill Jemison wrote: > However, I have not been able to reliably run multifrac pars, as I > have said previously. I hope this helps you in some way.

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SDL Version
by Albrecht Niekamp 27 Jan '18

27 Jan '18

My system is Win10_64bit. Due to fundamental problems I have given up using the SDL Version, these are not caused by the MFR Software. Now trying to use DosBox SVN Daum, installed inspite a warning on the net. Problem: Fractint completely fails : on all searches "nofiles" error, - images, frms, pars and so on also Not caused by "autoexecute" ! All known versions of sstools tested, inside or outside the Fractint folder, manual reso calling does not help. Maybe it´s a problem of user rights or lack of 16bit support after latest "upgrade". Any help welcome, Albrecht

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Re: [Fractint] SDL version on Linux uses system audio device?
by Jonathan Osuch 27 Jan '18

27 Jan '18

David, At this point, the SDL sound support is enabled. I haven't been able to make any sounds and I don't know how it interacts with the system. I'll have to look at this code. Clearly, if a person has selected sound=no, then the sound card should not be tied up. But, even with sound=yes or beep, the only time the sound card is needed is at the end of generating a fractal or for error messages. Jonathan > Just wondering. I had the newest SDL version running and went to > start > my pro audio server (JACKD) to check something else. JACKD reported > that > something was already using my sound card. > > The only other program open was Thunderbird. > > After I exited SDL XFractint, I could start JACKD without any > problems. > > Thanks. >

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SDL version on Linux uses system audio device?
by david 27 Jan '18

27 Jan '18

Just wondering. I had the newest SDL version running and went to start my pro audio server (JACKD) to check something else. JACKD reported that something was already using my sound card. The only other program open was Thunderbird. After I exited SDL XFractint, I could start JACKD without any problems. Thanks. -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Re: [Fractint] SDL Version - Splsh
by Jonathan Osuch 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

Albrecht, I recompiled and re-uploaded the SDL executable. The new one has _fixed at the end. Jonathan > After some testing, using my own frms and images > I´m fully convinced. Sofar almost evrything works > with the exception of many MFR images, more > about that later. > Only this now: S.Gallets ManyMods frm never works, > it is also not included in the frm collection I think. > As a test I updated my splash screen with Lake effect > and Fractmask - perfect! > ; > https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0mEgeGYQCRSauaGA > ; > Albrecht

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SDL Version - Splsh
by Albrecht Niekamp 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

After some testing, using my own frms and images I´m fully convinced. Sofar almost evrything works with the exception of many MFR images, more about that later. Only this now: S.Gallets ManyMods frm never works, it is also not included in the frm collection I think. As a test I updated my splash screen with Lake effect and Fractmask - perfect! ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0mEgeGYQCRSauaGA ; Albrecht

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SDL report
by Albrecht Niekamp 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

Downloaded the missing dll - works and possible to create some MFR files from par. Other ones (MFR14-2) start and stop immediately or generate cryptic error messages. Only part of the PAR files are shown. Most of them just are not there. A MFR_10 image was created and all data were there after loading - SUPERB! I never have exspected that so it seems only some minor problems are left. The saved images dont show in the Fractint direcory but are there after the "r" command. Will do some more testing tomorrow. A big Thank you !!! Albrecht

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Re: Dosboc SVN Daum
by Albrecht Niekamp 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fractint] Dosboc SVN Daum Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 21:32:34 +0100 From: Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> To: Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net>, osuchj(a)mediacombb.net Thanks, Tim. I have the same version of DosBox. The problem very likely is that Microsoft stopped 16bit support on all 64 Systems. Suppose you have 32bit ? Can you run MFR14-2 ? To test that I need Dosbox, there are hardly any DOS Users left and Richard apparently stopped working on his Fractint version. It would be great if Jonathan could give it a try or give me some tips, the SDL version does not work for me, possibly also due to 64bit (missing a dll). After all I´m the only one creating new images from scratch since a long time. All mailed pars are transscribed from other systems Albrecht On 25.01.2018 18:23, Timothy Wegner wrote: > I have SVN Daum working fine under Windows 10. > > The *.conf file has a different name for the Daum version than for the > regular DOSBox. Mine is: C:\Users\twegner\AppData\Local\DOSBox\SVN-Daum.conf

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Missing DLL
by John Wilson 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

I thought I might install a clean Fractint SDL version in my WIN 7 64-bit laptop. When I tried to run the download I got the same error message as Albrecht Niekamp--- libgc_s_dw2-1.dll was not found. So where can I find this little devil, and in which folder will it reside peacefully? John W. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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SDL Version
by Albrecht Niekamp 26 Jan '18

26 Jan '18

This image saved from Fractint SDL Version oct22 with an early version of the mfr software. later versions produce "junk" messages or a black screen ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0lnmgGSkZh_z-UJQ ; this is the error message rcvd with the current version: libgc_s_dw2-1.dll was not found and processing stopped. Albrecht :

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Dosboc SVN Daum
by Albrecht Niekamp 25 Jan '18

25 Jan '18

Hi, trying to use the Dosbox SVN Daum to use as an alternative for Oracle VirtualXP on Win10 64bit. But get an error message on startup Missing Fractint.cfg - it´s there inside and outside the fractint folder and works on xp 2. fractintF finds no gif and parfiles "nofiles" errors, manual input is not recognized. SStools is there with or withount "c:\:" inside or outside the fractint folder. An earlier version of dosbox worked without problems on win7 - compatability mode does not help. If you have Win10 please mail the config file directly to me. Thank you !! Albrecht

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Multifractal Archivs
by Albrecht Niekamp 25 Jan '18

25 Jan '18

Hi, as it is a live site I did a little bit of reorganizing, the links remain valid. The OneDrive "NEW" folder now also contains the 2018 images where they belong. In the "Visual" folder there is a new item: "Start Kit". This is a splendid tool for evryone who wants to modify an existing image or start a completely new one. I haven´t given up hope as yet and this makes it a lot easier. It contains par files of all formulas, including variations, usiing that frm as a basic image alone, so the other frms - outside, inside 1, inside 2, inside 3 can easily be added. Even the default variables can be used. Included iin the par is also the latest MFR version; mfr14-2 , "Manowar2 update" dated Apr,01, 2015. AND the input table as JPG, OpenOffice file and PDF that also contains a quick referrence where any variable can be located by name. A bit tricky to use, questions welcome. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0htOy8PqrwOqvIjA ; Albrecht

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The Time_Machine
by Albrecht Niekamp 23 Jan '18

23 Jan '18

Hi, no comments again, the image is the message. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0iChv3OOzVVY8vCA ; Albrecht --------------------------------------------------------------Start par------------------------------------------- The Time_Machine { ; 57508-26 ; WonderWheel Zoom out (4) ; Time 0.14.24.35 ; Mmods-Newton_Mmods-Magnet reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=1.22125e-015/11.7777/2.745692 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<3>000000000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3\ >zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<\ 4>000<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>\ 2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<4\ 2>000 }

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Fractal_Beauty
by Albrecht Niekamp 23 Jan '18

23 Jan '18

Please regard this as the second part of the Time_Machine, previous image, it´s a zoom. The title says it all. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZ0ju52iqdzFYnZChw ; Albrecht ------------------------------------------Start Par----------------------- Fractal_Beauty { ; 57508-27 ; WonderWheel Zoom out (5) ; 0.5.22.96 1280/1024 ; Colors Albrecht.map reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=-0.00000001376795640/+11.79403401490069000/825027.7 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<3>000000000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3\ >zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<\ 4>000<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>\ 2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<4\ 2>000 }

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The Mandel_Queen
by Albrecht Niekamp 23 Jan '18

23 Jan '18

No words are possible about this one. Just look and love her. (A zoom into todays image) ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxokKGO696UZWASXg ; Albrecht ---------------------------------------------Start Par------------------------------------------------------------------- Mandel_Queen { ; 57503-10 ; Time 0.35.10.96 1280/1024 ; Mmod_Newton_Mmod_Magnet ; She even has a Crown reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=2.28576/0/12/1/-90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<2>000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9\ >UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<\ 9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>2TG2RE\ 3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<45>000 } https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxokKGO696UZWASXg

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Inside_Life
by Albrecht Niekamp 23 Jan '18

23 Jan '18

Hi, The third zoom into the WonderWheel - the Mandel Division, although the MandelFrm is not included. There are some other parts, obviously. ; Albrecht ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZx8cd4pHR62BFbtBw ; -------------------------------------------------Start Par--------------------------------------------------- Inside_Life { ; 57503-11 ; WonderWheel Zoom_3 ; Time 0.37.54.97 1280/1024 ; Oracle VirtualXP DOS Mode reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=+2.26927047584858100/+0.03981774314243803/844.6119/1/-35.0000\ 000000096847/7.79910858117460748e-012 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UO\ FRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<9>X\ 0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>2TG2RE3OC\ <2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<47>000 }

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WonderWheel
by Albrecht Niekamp 22 Jan '18

22 Jan '18

A completely new Image again today. A step closer to infinity to repeat the expression Alex used yesterday. This time done with the latest MFR version so better precision, more effective coding and better formula integration. The title of WonderWheel seems justified if you take a close look at all those details, the zoom is just a first appetizer, there are hundreds of them, promised. Jack, this is a good source for an animation ! ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxnQMZOCW-JWJxb3g ; Albrecht -----------------------------------------Start Par------------------------- The_Circle_Universe { ; 57503-06 ; Time 0.21.24.93 1280/1024 ; Mmods_Newton_Mmod_Magnet reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=+0.01617585961254411/+2.94355623330074900/377.2029/1/164.9999\ 99999996476/3.98243937826947558e-012 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<28>000000000<3>000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOj\ gRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<\ 26>000<4>000<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa\ 0wc<11>2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4K\ A0000<13>000 } WonderWheel { ; 57503-07 ; Time 0.39.34.26 1280/1024 ; Mmods_Newton_Momod-Magnet reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=exp/exp/sin/exp passes=t center-mag=1.66667/0/0.6/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/57508.07595722203/54545.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808035/384.320499981271/384.00482000595/750.2000008\ 591/128.7000000351/1024.30000000361 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<3>000000000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3\ >zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<\ 4>000<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>\ 2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<4\ 2>000 }

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Exploratory zooms into Sebastien's zadntl fractal
by Harold Lane 21 Jan '18

21 Jan '18

Sebastien Helie hurt his back, although I don't know how badly. I hope these new images from his zadntl fractal will cheer him up. These are a series of zooms exploring into the parent of his zadntl fractal. I previously posted a few images from this fractal. If you have limited time, the ones I recommend viewing are marked with "///". I discovered a classic "tree" buried in this formula! Likely more than one... I'm a bit more organized with this fractal -- the name of the parameter set in the par file is the same as the name of the fractal file (gif image) it creates. The parameter sets for the images I previously posted (made with this formula) are also in the parameter file. I tried to put a brief comment in each of the parameter sets to orient it in the sequence of zooms. http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107.par Notice that essentially all of the parameter sets in the par file have an aspect ratio ("X Magnification Factor") of 0.75 used. This compensates for a problem with Richard's version of Fractint for Windows that I use. To exactly reproduce the fractals below, you'll need to change the images X Magnification Factors in the par file to 1.0 . You can also set this in Fractint with the sequence of keystrokes: <Z> <F6> while viewing the image. There are single pixels in some of the images, which viewing them full size will preserve. http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107H.gif is a zoom into the center figure of the parent fractal: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107Z.gif Zoom into H, rotated 90 degrees: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107J.gif Center top of J: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107K.gif Center top of K: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107L.gif /// Butterfly with evil eye patterns on its wings. Center of L: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107M.gif Stretch marks on butterfly: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107N.gif Center of N: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107P.gif Center of P: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107Q.gif /// "Reaching out Into the Unknown" Top center of Q. Color map rotated up 12 locations: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107R.gif Left side of R: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107S.gif Circle of black pearls in S zoomed into: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107T.gif /// Perhaps fish swimming to an island... Top of T rotated 180 degrees with color map rotated down 4 locations: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107U.gif ////// Classic tree! ////// How is it that those branches "know" how to avoid each other? If you look carefully at the lowest limbs of the tree -- towards the trunk -- you can see that they keep on branching. Island in U zoomed into: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107V.gif Variations on a theme. Zoom into a 'ladder' in *R:* http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107W.gif Theme & variations again. W (de)skewed -29 degrees and zoomed into a bit: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107X.gif Upper right figure in X rotated 90 degrees CCW: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S1801070.gif Zoom into top of '0' (zero): http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107_.gif - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: [Fractint] parameter file questions
by Jonathan Osuch 19 Jan '18

19 Jan '18

Bill, > Am I correct that if I run a par with reset=1960, that ver2004.14 > will load > the sound related info and if I immediately save a new par that the > sound related info will be reconfigured into the present par format? None of the sound related parameters show up in the backwards compatibility checking code. The two PARs should be the same. There are some possible exceptions, of course, but the sound parameters should be identical. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] parameter file questions
by Jonathan Osuch 19 Jan '18

19 Jan '18

Bill, > 1) can someone explain the reset=xxxx entry? I can find no mention > other > than a specific reference to "reset=1920" in the docs. I am in the > process > of reevaluating many par files from the past audio fractal work I > have done > over the years, and am trying to determine the effect of various > reset= > entries in my pars. >From the Docs: RESET Causes Fractint to reset all calculation related parameters to their default values. Non-calculation parameters such as "printer=", "sound=", and "savename=" are not affected. RESET should be specified at the start of each parameter file entry (used with the <@> command) which defines an image, so that the entry need not describe every possible parameter - when invoked, all parameters not specifically set by the entry will have predictable values (the defaults). When you create a PAR, the reset= should have a value corresponding to the version of Fractint you are using. This is used for backwards compatibility and should be left alone unless you are trying to reproduce an effect from a specific revision of Fractint. If you load an old PAR, then create a new one from the resulting image, the reset= value will be for the current Fractint version unless there was some specific feature used that needs backwards compatibility. > 2) Has it always been the case that the view window parameter is only > recorded if it is other than the default "no"? Yes. We only record parameters that are not at their default setting. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Wheel of Fate
by Albrecht Niekamp 19 Jan '18

19 Jan '18

They are included in the archives in the FRM folder. I was thinking of you when I tried some zooming.. I´m getting dizzy and overwhelmed, there are so many interesting zoms, but like I said, you must be patient because it is rather slow due to the exorbitant complexity. Here is the link to the archives and (just one) almost maximum zoom https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG92Gw1sAwCFbRiqAT https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxUvwzqa1NAwyP0jg The second link is for the 2018 Folder with new images the new image is whezo-02 Cheers, Albrecht Am 19.01.2018 um 02:23 schrieb LLOYD GARRICK: > > I'd really like to investigate some of these for animations. > > Where can I get the current "mfr.frm" and "mfr_12.frm" files? >

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parameter file questions
by Bill Jemison 19 Jan '18

19 Jan '18

I have a couple of questions about par files. For the most part, I am using Fractint Version 20.04.14 via DOSBox SVN-Daum on a Win10 machine. 1) can someone explain the reset=xxxx entry? I can find no mention other than a specific reference to "reset=1920" in the docs. I am in the process of reevaluating many par files from the past audio fractal work I have done over the years, and am trying to determine the effect of various reset= entries in my pars. 2) Has it always been the case that the view window parameter is only recorded if it is other than the default "no"? This is a big problem for me because I often - but not always - use various view window settings for audio files, which often have no visual indication as to whether a view window is being used or not. I find that if the previous par had a view window used, that subsequent pars are run in a view window unless specifically reset manually to "no". It would be a great help if the view window setting could be passed even if a view window is not used. Thanks! Bill Jemison Audio Fractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home>

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Wheel of Fate
by Albrecht Niekamp 18 Jan '18

18 Jan '18

Wheel of Fate ; A new image designed from the scratch - it is one of the most complex ones existing Good to know that at my age (77) I´m still capable of creating such things. The second one is the parent view, especially for zooming. It has the full set of formulas, 5, and all active. The basic shape , easy to see, is a Newton variation, outside and inside1 manymods, doubled for greater density. Inside 2 Bees, responsible for the many small objects, all different, and inside 3 Secant with it´s tendency to less precise but cloudy or dusty environments. There are uncountable lots of interesting zooms but not suitable for a animation as all are very slow. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxjje7CmS1Jgv7g7g ; Albrecht Wheel of Fate { ; Wheel-08 ; Newton-Mmods-Mmods-Bees-Secant ; Time 0.41.27.51 1280/1024 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=exp/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.0147449/2.65454e-013/2.795657/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-01\ 6 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/75531.07595702022/14235.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808048/384.3204896048/384.00482000595/128.200000859\ 1/256.2000004001/512.3000008001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000HC0<4>A70860750<3>110wOM<3>_ECUCAO98<2>621DL5<2>350gy1<44>5805\ 70450<3>010LKWEDL76ASQN<38>432332321<3>000pO`<3>MAFF69734eFn<2>A3CJ56<3>\ 611300pUm<49>635534423<3>000VO1<15>970860650<3>110zh2<29>JD0 }

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Fractint Archive now up-to-date
by Harold Lane 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Tim, All, The posts since Nov 6, 2017 suddenly, miraculously, showed up in the Fractint Archive -- since yesterday! I concur. Absolutely no reason to bug Xmission support at this time. - Hal Lane ######################## # mailto:hallane@earthlink.net ######################## From: Timothy Wegner [mailto:tim@tswegner.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:13 AM To: Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net> Cc: Albrecht Niekamp <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> Subject: Re: // FW: [Fractint] Fractint xmission stopped working // I was about to check, but suddenly the missing messages Albrecht reported showed up. Let me know if you see a problem other than a little slowness. I am willing to bug xmission support, but I am well aware that they have hosted our list gratis for a very long time, so I ping them sparingly. Tim On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Harold Lane <mailto:hallane@earthlink.net> wrote: Tim, Albrecht, I think I remember that you (Tim) said that the list serve software now takes several days to update the archive. I remember in the distant past, it always updated within a couple of hours of the post. It's not done that for a long time. However, the last post I see right now was posted by Albrecht on: 2017-11-06. Tim, are you able to check on this again? Thanks, - Hal Lane ######################## # mailto:hallane@earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Albrecht Niekamp Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:32 AM To: Timothy Wegner <mailto:tim@tswegner.net>; mailto:fractint@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Fractint] Fractint xmission stopped working Hello, Tim the last message of the Fractint xmission list is from Nov,2017 and since Jan,10 no new message arrived and my own messages just vanish although there is no error message from the provider. Sincerely hope you can do something to make the forum software operable again. Please advise. Thank You ! Albrecht _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list mailto:Fractint@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Starmandel update
by Albrecht Niekamp 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

I have made an update for the image and par. The link has for this image has changed. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxcVbXIVMeOna0Nwg ; Albrecht -----------------------------------------------Start par----------------- Starmandel { ; 71635y-6 ; Time 0.0.4.10 1280/1024 ; Newton-Secant-Phoenix-Bees-Mmods reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=cos/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.48558366747971590/-0.00000178308097432/2873.998/1/90/-0.62\ 2371322659891479 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/71635.03564901002/14253.2\ 207090221/151024.0204808192/384.32768524288/384.00482000595/128.30076830\ 01/256.3007682001/512.2007681001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=-4 periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000`o2<30>AF09E08D0<3>580570450<3>010LKXEDM76BSQO<38>433333322<3>\ 000pOa<3>MAGF6A735eFo<2>A3DJ57<3>612301pUn<49>636535424<3>000VO2<15>9708\ 60650<3>110zh3<35>A70860750<3>110wON<3>_EDUCBO99<2>622DL6<2>351gy2<6>aq2 }

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StarMandel
by Albrecht Niekamp 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

StarMandel 71635y-06 No comments needed for this one ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxb0Px4x-Mo_GCqzA ; Albrecht ------------------------------------------------Start par------------------------------------------------------- Starmandel { ; 71635y-06 ; Time 0.10.23.29 ; Newton-Secant-Phoenix-Bees-Mmods reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=cos/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.48554285254192680/-0.00006292119439928/186.2133/1/90/-0.62\ 2371322659726056 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/71635.03564901002/14253.2\ 207090221/151024.0204808192/384.32768524288/384.00482000595/128.30076830\ 01/256.3007682001/512.2007681001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=-4 periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000AG46A3351gy2<38>AF09E08D0<3>580570450<3>010LKXEDM76BSQO<38>433\ 333322<3>000pOa<3>MAGF6A735eFo<2>A3DJ57<3>612301pUn<49>636535424<3>000VO\ 2<15>970860650<3>110zh3<35>A70860750<3>110wON<3>_EDUCBO99I77C44622DL6 } https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxb0Px4x-Mo_GCqzA

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// FW: Fractint xmission stopped workig //
by Harold Lane 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

Tim, Albrecht, I think I remember that you (Tim) said that the list serve software now takes several days to update the archive. I remember in the distant past, it always updated within a couple of hours of the post. It's not done that for a long time. However, the last post I see right now was posted by Albrecht on: 2017-11-06. Tim, are you able to check on this again? Thanks, - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Albrecht Niekamp Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:32 AM To: Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net>; fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Fractint] Fractint xmission stopped workig Hello, Tim the last message of the Fractint xmission list is from Nov,2017 and since Jan,10 no new message arrived and my own messages just vanish although there is no error message from the provider. Sincerely hope you can do something to make the forum software operable again. Please advise. Thank You ! Albrecht _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Nesem-01
by Albrecht Niekamp 16 Jan '18

16 Jan '18

A Fractal that should be new and strange to every watcher. The combination of Newton and Secant is responsible. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxaNfAe5nDamcWAEQ ; Albrecht -----------------------------------------------------Start Par------------------------------------------------------- Nesem-01 { ; Newton-Secant-Mmods ; Time 0.05.21.40 1280/1024 ; from MOTD march , 2014 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_12.frm formulaname=multifractal_12 function=sin/sqr/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.972834/-2.79742e-005/6.322247/1.1324/-90/3.885780586188047\ 89e-016 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/70105.07064900114/11435.2\ 207180221/151024.0204808192/384.32768524388/120.00482000595/128.10076810\ 01/256.1007682001/512.2007683001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=00y0y0zy0zy0zy00y00y0zxyzxvzx0ywu0vt0ut0qs0ps0pr00000000r0pq00q00\ q0000000oqz0000000p00qyo00p00pryqtyqwxqyxqy0qxwpvvpvuou0lttjstjq0hotbmsS\ XsQWsNVpJSpIG00000000F0G00DC0DB09A07606500500406400300000x00xv02vww00w0u\ wtuwtt2t02s0vs0vr01qr1q0uq00nq0nq0kqukn0il00j0hjt0it60r6gq50i00h00h00300\ f00S00F00F00E50D00C00C00700000060804805005000800860905900000068z08yp0yqo\ ysoxvoxvo9vo90ox8ow00w0000AtJnrJnpJmoJmnKkiKjfKkdK000000C00E00F00F0000<3\ >000wx0twxswwpvwnvu0uu0ttmtr0tq0spksp0rn0pmkokkojjljjkiij0ij000000000y00\ x00xzyxzxwyvw0tuxouxosvmsulqsj0qiophophm00l00k0hj<3>0hh0gh00f0fe0cd0cY00\ V00U00N00O000<4>000<2>0000800000800A00000K00K0gK0g00hL0hK0jK00K00N00H0kH\ 0k00kS0lU00Z00_0la00d00d0000mh00j00000m0000n000n0000000or0xt0xu0uv0ux0sx\ 0sx00x0<3>0y00000y00y00y0 }

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New Link
by Albrecht Niekamp 15 Jan '18

15 Jan '18

After the patchday a new OneDrive version is activated that contains almost all of my files. It´s a live link being constantly syncronized. Here it is (audio and multifractal archives) There are 2 versions taken at different times, both work for me. Please tell me if you have problems opening the files. Will test in on my Virtual XP and eventually update. If you have Win10 the standard apps should be set to Irfan Viewer for images to Editor for frm and par files and to winamp for audio, because winamp has an excellent midi plugin that can be modified for external settings. Due spcace limitation there are no WAW audio files without a few exceptions. ; https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ADx%5FyagsKZUKG4M&id=root&cid=461164F… https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ADx%5FyagsKZUKG4M&id=root&cid=461164F… ; Albrecht

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Fractint xmission stopped workig
by Albrecht Niekamp 15 Jan '18

15 Jan '18

Hello, Tim the last message of the Fractint xmission list is from Nov,2017 and since Jan,10 no new message arrived and my own messages just vanish although there is no error message from the provider. Sincerely hope you can do something to make the forum software operable again. Please advise. Thank You ! Albrecht

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Cardasia
by Albrecht Niekamp 14 Jan '18

14 Jan '18

This is the final of the 3 space images, zooms into MOTD images 2014. Every DS9 fan knows the name. ; https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxX7-B10_zJwYNojA ; Albrecht ------------------------------------Start Par----------------------------- Cardasia { ; Time 0.13.36.03 1280/1024 ; Newton_Secant_Manymods ; Parent View March 2014 ; MOTD Born from the Dust reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_12.frm formulaname=multifractal_12 function=sin/sqr/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.142079/-2.21886/1.921305/1.0362/-128.41080126752135/6.6800\ 9117841404976 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/70105.07064900114/11435.2\ 207180221/151024.0204808192/384.32768524388/120.00482000595/128.10076810\ 01/256.1007682001/512.2007683001 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=00ylU00Z00_0la00d00d0000mh00j00000m0000n000n0000000or0xt0xu0uv0ux\ 0sx0sx00x0<3>0y00000y0<2>0y0zy0zy0zy00y00y0zxyzxvzx0ywu0vt0ut0qs0ps0pr00\ 000000r0pq00q00q0000000oqz0000000p00qyo00p00pryqtyqwxqyxqy0qxwpvvpvuou0l\ ttjstjq0hotbmsSXsQWsNVpJSpIG00000000F0G00DC0DB09A07606500500406400300000\ x00xv02vww00w0uwtuwtt2t02s0vs0vr01qr1q0uq00nq0nq0kqukn0il00j0hjt0it60r6g\ q50i00h00h00300f00S00F00F00E50D00C00C00700000060804805005000800860905900\ 000068z08yp0yqoysoxvoxvo9vo90ox8ow00w0000AtJnrJnpJmoJmnKkiKjfKkdK000000C\ 00E00F00F0000<3>000wx0twxswwpvwnvu0uu0ttmtr0tq0spksp0rn0pmkokkojjljjkiij\ 0ij000000000y00x00xzyxzxwyvw0tuxouxosvmsulqsj0qiophophm00l00k0hj<3>0hh0g\ h00f0fe0cd0cY00V00U00N00O000<4>000<2>0000800000800A00000K00K0gK0g00hL0hK\ 0jK00K00N00H0kH0k00kS0 }

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Circl06
by Albrecht Niekamp 13 Jan '18

13 Jan '18

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxWf-1YWlv4q7mg2w -----------------------------------------------------------Start Par------------------------------------- A_Star_is_Born { ; Circl-06 ; Time 0.34.15.20 ; Reso 1280/1024 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=sin/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=+0.29021842081413630/-0.00000001607212679/5.716872e+008/1/90/\ 3.88578058618804789e-016 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/76531.07595702022/14235.4\ 911030602/150512.0404808048/384.3204896048/384.00482000595/128.200000859\ 1/256.2000004001/512.3000008001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000<3>000000000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3\ >zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<\ 4>000<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>\ 2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<4\ 2>000 }

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Blackhole.hif
by Albrecht Niekamp 13 Jan '18

13 Jan '18

Hi, Life is much too short to explore the multifractal software completely. That´s why many of the MOTD images never have been shown at a later time. Here is just one of them from the MOTD Magboth. As the title suggests it is part of a Magnet Fractal. Not completely symmetrical but interesting and it may open new adventures if zoomed into. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgZxUvwzqa1NAwyP0jg ; Copy the FRM Folder into your Fractint folder (DOS Version) if not done before. ; Albrecht ---------------------------------------------PAR--------------------------- BlackHole_Mandel { ; Magbo-03 ; Time 0.30.11.06 1280/1024 ; Iter and Z as Border reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_12.frm formulaname=multifractal_12 function=sin/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-1.45794448767359000/-0.03623870297215945/77.61529/1/-90/3.88\ 578058618804789e-016 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/80500.07595750201/11511.4\ 911030602/152048.0404808041/384.16048940121/384.00482000595/384.80076805\ 112/512.1007683001/768.70076800186 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=00y0d0000mh00j00000m0000n000n0000000or0xt0xu0uv0ux0sx0sx00x0<3>0y\ 00000y0<2>0y0zy0zy0zy00y00y0zxyzxvzx0ywu0vt0ut0qs0ps0pr00000000r0pq00q00\ q0000000oqz0000000p00qyo00p00pryqtyqwxqyxqy0qxwpvvpvuou0lttjstjq0hotbmsS\ XsQWsNVpJSpIG00000000F0G00DC0DB09A07606500500406400300000x00xv02vww00w0u\ wtuwtt2t02s0vs0vr01qr1q0uq00nq0nq0kqukn0il00j0hjt0it60r6gq50i00h00h00300\ f00S00F00F00E50D00C00C00700000060804805005000800860905900000068z08yp0yqo\ ysoxvoxvo9vo90ox8ow00w0000AtJnrJnpJmoJmnKkiKjfKkdK000000C00E00F00F0000<3\ >000wx0twxswwpvwnvu0uu0ttmtr0tq0spksp0rn0pmkokkojjljjkiij0ij000000000y00\ x00xzyxzxwyvw0tuxouxosvmsulqsj0qiophophm00l00k0hj<3>0hh0gh00f0fe0cd0cY00\ V00U00N00O000<4>000<2>0000800000800A00000K00K0gK0g00hL0hK0jK00K00N00H0kH\ 0k00kS0lU00Z00_0la00d0 }

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Taiko_Jam
by Albrecht Niekamp 10 Jan '18

10 Jan '18

Have fun ! ; https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5zpRXg3-hN1a9OtK ; Happy Xmas, Albrecht

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Mandelbrot at maxima cas
by Edward Montague 10 Jan '18

10 Jan '18

To more thoroughly explore the Mandelbrot series I've written some code that emulates , to so small extent , what fractint does . You can find this by firstly doing a Google search for maxima vtk , then selecting the link that has the name riotorio , or similar , in it. Once at that page select elevation grids , or similar , from that page click upon the elsewhere link. Upon the next page scroll down and you should see a plot , with perspective , of the Mandelbrot set ; above this is the code I wrote to generate this. The code structure is fairly easy to comprehend and the function mandelB has a resemblance to a fractint formula. The plot is easily rotated and zoomed into or out from . Maxima CAS is mostly a symbolic Computer Algebra System , this is the feature I require.

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Multifractal_Archives (3)
by Albrecht Niekamp 10 Jan '18

10 Jan '18

Here´s a hot tip for the users of Virtual DOS or Virtual XP: If you copy the archive into you fractint Folder - the correct subfolders of course - you can open all files and modify the images directly, zooming, color cycling/ editing etc.They are all Fractint originals and Fractint will find the formulas. Albrecht

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Multifractal_Archives
by Albrecht Niekamp 10 Jan '18

10 Jan '18

Writing this from my (Oracle) Virtual XP where OneDrive is not installed and there is no Microsoft account. The links work perfectly also the opening programs Irfan Viewer and winamp. The sound is perfect - connection from the headphone output to Hifi. So dont exspect any problems. Albrecht

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Sebastien has rendered an interesting fractal.
by Harold Lane 08 Jan '18

08 Jan '18

Sebastien has rendered an interesting fractal. He managed to resurrect the fractint formula "satan" and located the object from the Rick Ostidish satan program. He says the image shows the Zadntl family of humanoids that travel into the computer dimension. Images and par file are below. These images should really be viewed full size... I slightly rotated and zoomed the image in his par file: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107A.gif His image reminds me of two Indian Medicine men dancing. I always like to see what the "parent" of a magnified area of a fractal is. When I backed out to see it, I got an apparently infinite horizontal band of similar connected crosses: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107Z.gif However, each of the similar crosses' centers is different, so, I calculated a zoomed version of the seven crosses in the parent image at the link above, and made an animated gif showing them in sequence from left to right in the parent fractal. I aligned the top of the upper arm of the crosses: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S1801079.gif Sebastien's par file is below: - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/S180107.par and here also: start parameter file================================ zadntl { ; ressurection reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=2018_1.frm formulaname=satan center-mag=-0.09251587177482259/+0.01798516129032283/12708.1 params=-0.08122647711418414/-6.301155988269217 float=y maxiter=2300 inside=0 colors=0000jj<4>0SS0OO0KK<3>044UUo<2>eecii_kkXmmVooUooUooUmmVkkXii_<2>YY\ k0Uo<2>CecGi_KkXOmVSoUWoUZoUbmVfkXji_<2>vYk0zm4vh8rcCn_GjW<2>SZPWWPZSPbO\ RfKTjGW<2>v4h00z6CnCObIZSOhIUpAZv4cy1hz0ly1pv4spAvhIxZS000<11>000<4>000W\ W0<3>bX0000fY0<2>l`0000000re0<2>xi0zGk<24>E3AC39A27<3>201ddd<3>flhgnihpj\ <3>kwnkxolyp<3>oztpztpzu<2>sxwswxtux<3>wnzxlzxjzyhzzfzzzz<9>OOOKKKGGG<3>\ 000<4>000000000CCCOOOZZZhhhpppvvvyyyz0W06a0Cg0Hl0Mq0Qu0Tx0VzWWGaPMgJSlEX\ q9au5ex2hz0jz8k0F00K00N00P00N00K00F0888F0FK0KN0NP0PN0NK0KF0F00z<8>ZZnbbl\ ffk<3>vvezzz0vv0rr0nn } frm:satan{;from satan a=real(p1),b=imag(p1) z=c=pixel: z=a*sqrt(z)+b*conj(cos(z)) |z|<800 } frm:satan{;from satan a=real(p1),b=imag(p1) z=c=pixel: z=a*sqrt(z)+b*conj(cos(z)) |z|<800 } zadntl_rot_&_zoom { ; ressurection ; Sebastien Helie after ; Rick Ostidish's satan program. ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=S180107.par formulaname=satan passes=1 center-mag=-0.09250606625839794/+0.017992124575721\ 14/19186.76/0.75/72.376346064602458/1.080024958355\ 3523e-012 params=-0.08122647711418414/-6.3011559882692172 float=y maxiter=2300 inside=0 colors=0000jj<4>0SS0OO0KK<3>044UUo<2>eecii_kkXmmVo\ oUooUooUmmVkkXii_<2>YYk0Uo<2>CecGi_KkXOmVSoUWoUZoU\ bmVfkXji_<2>vYk0zm4vh<2>GjWKfUObRSZPWWPZSPbORfKTjG\ W<2>v4h00z6CnCObIZSOhIUpAZv4cy1hz0ly1pv4spAvhIxZS0\ 00<11>000<4>000WW0<3>bX0000fY0<2>l`0000000re0<2>xi\ 0zGk<24>E3AC39A27<3>201ddd<3>flhgnihpj<3>kwnkxolyp\ <3>oztpztpzu<2>sxwswxtux<3>wnzxlzxjzyhzzfzzzz<9>OO\ OKKKGGG<3>000<4>000000000CCCOOOZZZhhhpppvvvyyyz0W0\ 6a0Cg0Hl0Mq0Qu0Tx0VzWWGaPMgJSlEXq9au5ex2hz0jz8k0F0\ 0K00N00P00N00K00F0888F0FK0KN0NP0PN0NK0KF0F00z<8>ZZ\ nbblffk<3>vvezzz0vv0rr0nn } zadntl_Z { ; ressurection ; 7 'stars' in the parent ; fractal. Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=S180107.par formulaname=satan passes=1 center-mag=0/0/0.135/0.75 params=-0.08122647711418414/-6.3011559882692172 float=y maxiter=2300 inside=0 colors=0000jj<4>0SS0OO0KK<3>044UUo<2>eecii_kkXmmVo\ oUooUooUmmVkkXii_<2>YYk0Uo<2>CecGi_KkXOmVSoUWoUZoU\ bmVfkXji_<2>vYk0zm4vh<2>GjWKfUObRSZPWWPZSPbORfKTjG\ W<2>v4h00z6CnCObIZSOhIUpAZv4cy1hz0ly1pv4spAvhIxZS0\ 00<11>000<4>000WW0<3>bX0000fY0<2>l`0000000re0<2>xi\ 0zGk<24>E3AC39A27<3>201ddd<3>flhgnihpj<3>kwnkxolyp\ <3>oztpztpzu<2>sxwswxtux<3>wnzxlzxjzyhzzfzzzz<9>OO\ OKKKGGG<3>000<4>000000000CCCOOOZZZhhhpppvvvyyyz0W0\ 6a0Cg0Hl0Mq0Qu0Tx0VzWWGaPMgJSlEXq9au5ex2hz0jz8k0F0\ 0K00N00P00N00K00F0888F0FK0KN0NP0PN0NK0KF0F00z<8>ZZ\ nbblffk<3>vvezzz0vv0rr0nn } end parameter file================================== --- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Taiko_Jam - WAV version
by Albrecht Niekamp 02 Jan '18

02 Jan '18

Taiko_Jam WAV version ; Due to the extreme dynamics that MP3 cannot handle I created a WAV version, a little bit (10%) slower and a complete new listening experience. 1.The hanging drum now plays a leading part, the sound is almost identical to the "real" one which produces a syncopated sound too. 2. The steel drum uses the new "space-shifting" Playing the same note twice, left and right on the same position and with the same pitchvalue. On the right side with the midi kind of reverb (tied note) and different articulation and volume and two phases delay, using 2 voices each. You get the the impression that the sound is moving from left to right which sinply is a new dimension again. Please play the downloaded version as the timing is much more precise which is essential for my kind of rhythm, first shown in the Infinite Variations folder, where ALL variations are available any time. Extending the software limits again ! ; https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5zt_uVr6lqp_aUtJ and the mp3-version: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5zpRXg3-hN1a9OtK ; Sincerely, Albrecht

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2018
by alex dukay 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Happy New Year everyone - may we find as yet undiscovered vistas in 2018 and beyond Alex Dukay

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Re: [Fractint] Update 12-26 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Edward, > Is there a difference between x86-64 and say x64 . No. They are the same. Take a look at the x86-64 page on Wikipedia for additional information. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update 12-26 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Edward, > I've been able to use Ubuntu 64 bit upon my x86-64 capable computer. > > Might your linux version run on that . Yes, my main OS is 64-bit Ubuntu. Jonathan

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Update 12-26 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Folks, Fixed image browser crashes. Fixed windows version use of long double. There is still a problem with input/output of the long double type, but the ML219-X3.GIF image should generate correctly now. Windows version (32-bit) is: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-12- 26.zip Pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version is: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -12-26.tar.gz or look in the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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MF213x
by Albrecht Niekamp 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

Hi, two rather unusual images today together with PAR and FRM: ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5zWpMnXnKgmfT9x5 ; I still stick to the Oracle VirtualXP as it has several important advantages: It is a complete XP system with Firefox, Thunderbird and the one and only Winamp player5. has it´s own download folder and is very fast. Also the complete collection of Fractint images and formulas, thousands of images to zoom and explore. And it is Freeware, incl XP Image, A N D it is safe. Since more then a year I have not seen a single malware attack so I dont need an Antivirus or any other protection tool. As I see it, it´s protected by the Win10 tools and by it´s incompatibility to earlier windows versions. Albrecht

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MsetRoots formula by Edward Montague - images
by Harold Lane 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

Quickie post with a screencap of Edward Montague's MsetRoots formula's parent fractal with Sebastien Helie's color map with contrasting adjacent colors -- to try and get an initial look at the fractal's structure: http://tinyurl.com/MsetRoots-parent-fractal-jpg or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sciwise/171210-MsetRoots-parent-fractal.jpg I couldn't help but explore a tiny bit... Zoom in the valley at right: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sciwise/Sfract11.gif And the chaff at Sfract11.gif's lower right enlarged: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sciwise/Sfract12.gif Richard's fractint lower-cases the formula name when it writes it out... Sorry, Edward. float=y is required. ---------- Start of Parameter set: -------------- MsetRootsParent { ; Edward Montague - sciwise ; Sebastien Helie's cmap ; -Hal Lane, combiner ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=171210.par formulaname=r2mandel center-mag=-0.415764/-0.0262864/1.414397 float=y inside=0 colors=PC0cNzgzLjUQlYW00000P5LSAbWGkZLkbQbeWLi`0mP\ W0X`EddRlibrmlwqtyvyzzz770HE0QK0YQ0dW0ja0mh0nn0zzz\ nnnbbbTTTKKKDDD999WaaakdgsglxkqznuxqxstzkwzazaaacL\ Xd8Rf1Mh1Gi8BkL5ma0vvvdmmSddKYYKSSSNNdKKvJJm0mg0gb\ 0bY0YU0UR0RP0PP0PP0Pd0dr0ry0yy0yr0rd0dP0P0PP0dd0rr\ 0yy0yy0rr0dd0PPPP0dd0rr0yy0yy0rr0dd0PP0U0Ug0Zs0cy0\ gy0ls0qg0uU0z0UU0Za0cg0gn0ls0qw0uy0zz_mIkoPtqVzsaz\ tgtvmkxt_zzOm3Xs4dw4lz4rz5vw5ys6zm6Ok7<2>4Y81T80P9\ 999<114>wwwxxxxxx<3>zzzUG5z0A } frm:r2mandel(XAXIS) [periodicity=0] {;sciwiseg , Edward Montague ; ; Roots of Mset via derivative of Mset . ; ; y , derivative ; z , Mset . ; ; x = Pixel z=1 y = 1 : y= 2*x*y+1 z = x*x + Pixel x = x - (z/y) .0001 < |z| } ---- End of parameter set --------------- - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: [Fractint] Roots of Mandelbrot Set
by Jonathan Osuch 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

Edward, Yes, that works. Jonathan > Is this okay . > > > R2Mandel(XAXIS) [periodicity=0] {;sciwiseg , Edward Montague > ; > ; Roots of Mset via derivative of Mset . > ; > ; y , derivative > ; z , Mset . > ; > ; > x = Pixel > z=1 > y = 1 : > > y= 2*x*y+1 > z = x*x + Pixel > > x = x - (z/y) > > .0001 < |z| > }

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Re: [Fractint] Roots of Mandelbrot Set
by Jonathan Osuch 10 Dec '17

10 Dec '17

Edward, In the documentation for the formula type (from a formula type, press F1), you will find the following: NOTE: For periodicity checking, inside options, outside options, and the passes=o option to work correctly it is necessary to leave the result of the orbit calculation in the variable z. You would want to use z instead of z2, in the formula below. Jonathan > A further bit of code was required in the declaration of the formula > . > > R2Mandel(XAXIS) [periodicity=0] {;sciwiseg , Edward Montague > ; > ; Roots of Mset via derivative of Mset . > ; > ; y , derivative > ; z2 , Mset . > ; > ; > x = Pixel > z2=1 > y = 1 : > > y= 2*x*y+1 > z2 = x*x + Pixel > > x = x - (z2/y) > > .0001 < |z2| > } >

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Re: [Fractint] Roots of Mandelbrot Set
by Jonathan Osuch 10 Dec '17

10 Dec '17

Edward, > Using my established method for finding the derivative of the > Mandelbrot > series and Newton's formula for finding the roots of a > function I produced this formula . > > In theory there a convergence towards the roots is expected , meaning > that the condition for bailout happens when |x| approaches > a small value . This isn't obvious with this formula , any > improvements > are welcome . Your formula does produce an interesting image. Periodicity needs to be set to 0. This can be done like this: R1Mandel(XAXIS)[periodicity=0] {;sciwiseg , Edward Montague ... Jonathan > R1Mandel(XAXIS) {;sciwiseg , Edward Montague > ; > ; Roots of Mset via derivative of Mset . > ; > ; y , derivative > ; x , Mset . > ; > ; > x = Pixel > y = 1 : > > y= 2*x*y+1 > x = x*x + Pixel > > x = x - (x/y) > > > > > x| < 4 > }

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Re: [Fractint] Sebastien Helie's interesting new fractal image (animation)
by Jonathan Osuch 10 Dec '17

10 Dec '17

Hal, > It's a "passes=o" (orbital) which I have not used > before. Interestingly, > different pixel resolutions (image horizontal and vertical sizes) > give > slightly different versions of his fractal. I used Richard's > Fractint for > Windows beta 5 (not for general release; now renamed Iterated > Dynamics). > > Even 1280x960 size images continue to evolve over time in a pleasing > way. I really like this parameter file. If you run it and then go to the <p> screen, when you set the orbit delay to 10, the image starts to look vaguely like Rolf from the Muppet Show. Jonathan

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New Link
by Albrecht Niekamp 10 Dec '17

10 Dec '17

Hi, sometimes the angels scream or is it because of xmas time ? Anyway I have moved something and the OneDrive problems have been solved. Thanks to the person responsible ! As my gift for you here is a general link available for the community ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5TA8f8moLCmVChuD ; For your info: there was a new Win10 update today with several restarts and this was the first update I noticed, apparently all items reloaded. My listening tip : https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5m30fdkabEmP7W2o ; Dreaming & Driving_101017p4.mp3 ; Albrecht

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Roots of Mandelbrot Set
by Edward Montague 10 Dec '17

10 Dec '17

Using my established method for finding the derivative of the Mandelbrot series and Newton's formula for finding the roots of a function I produced this formula . In theory there a convergence towards the roots is expected , meaning that the condition for bailout happens when |x| approaches a small value . This isn't obvious with this formula , any improvements are welcome . R1Mandel(XAXIS) {;sciwiseg , Edward Montague ; ; Roots of Mset via derivative of Mset . ; ; y , derivative ; x , Mset . ; ; x = Pixel y = 1 : y= 2*x*y+1 x = x*x + Pixel x = x - (x/y) |x| < 4 }

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Sebastien Helie's interesting new fractal image (animation)
by Harold Lane 07 Dec '17

07 Dec '17

Sebastien Helie sent me an email with an interesting new fractal parameter file in it. He said: > I leave you free with the decision > of what to put on [the Fractint email list serve] > (if you put it on). the fractal is super cool. > I ... wish to the group a merry christmas I agree with him about the fractal being pretty nifty, so, below are his parameter file and a link to an animated gif of his fractal on my server. It's a "passes=o" (orbital) which I have not used before. Interestingly, different pixel resolutions (image horizontal and vertical sizes) give slightly different versions of his fractal. I used Richard's Fractint for Windows beta 5 (not for general release; now renamed Iterated Dynamics). Even 1280x960 size images continue to evolve over time in a pleasing way. To try to reproduce a little of that "flavor," I saved his image approximately every two seconds, and combined the ten versions into an animated gif of the evolving fractal. You *really* need to view the animation at full size. If the browser shrinks it, all the pixels' colors are muted, and the curved arrays of single pixels get blurred. It's a little over three MB: http://tinyurl.com/Owl-Orbit-animated-gif or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Sebastien/Owl-Orbit.gif --------- Start of his parameter file: ------------------- owl_orbital { ; 3 2017-12-06 by Sebastien Helie reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=2012_7.frm formulaname=startail passes=o center-mag=1.34954/-0.000501549/0.6005002/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=0.707106/1/2.4142/2 float=y maxiter=2500 inside=0 cyclerange=1/1 colors=000<3>000000000000CCCOOOZZZhhhpppvvvyyyz0W06a0Cg0Hl0Mq0Qu0Tx0VzWW\ GaPMgJSlEXq9au5ex2hz0jz8k0F00K00N00P00N00K00F0888F0FK0KN0NP0PN0NK0KF0F00\ z<8>ZZnbblffk<3>vvezzz0vv<7>0SS0OO0KK<3>044UUo<2>eecii_kkXmmVooUooUooUmm\ VkkXii_<2>YYk0Uo<2>CecGi_KkXOmVSoUWoUZoUbmVfkXji_<2>vYk0zm4vh8rcCn_GjW<2\ >SZPWWPZSPbORfKTjGW<2>v4h00z6CnCObIZSOhIUpAZv4cy1hz0ly1pv4spAvhIxZSyObzC\ n0kz2i0<3>Ac0Cb0E`0<3>MY0OX0QW0<3>XW0ZW0`W0<3>hZ0j_0l`0<3>tf0vh0xi0zGk<2\ 4>E3AC39A27<3>201ddd<3>flhgnihpj<3>kwnkxolyp<3>oztpztpzu<2>sxwswxtux<3>w\ nzxlzxjzyhzzfzzzz<15>000 } frm:startail{;sinpix a=real(p1^(0.707106/imag(p1))),b=real(p2^(0.707106/imag(p2))) z=c=pixel^(-.707106): t=z^a+c q=z^b+c z=t-(q-1)^(-1+z) |z|<74*c } --------- End of parameter file ------------------- - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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One Drive - Groove Music
by Albrecht Niekamp 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Microsoft refused to end the enforced usage of Groove Music (Zunemusic) and to use Winamp. That means MIDI is forbidden and the Winamp playlists as well. For me it means I cannot even open and play my own, selfcomposed Music. Thank you Microsoft (for the second time !! ) . Alll Links are invalid.

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Analysis and Fractals .
by Edward Montague 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

The question . Differential equations , linear and non linear , of any type or degree . f(t) = some function , with or without constants . D(f(t)) = some differential equation involving f(t) , f'(t) and other . The condition that we want to satisfy is : D(f(t)) = 0 To do so , at the most basic level , we need to generate a large set of functions where there's a function that satisfies : D(f(t)) = 0 This is what I'm attempting to do with xfractint . Symbolically we tend to do things like finding an integrating factor , finding symmetries via lie algebras , performing iterated integration like He's Variational Iteration Method , fractional integration and a fair few others . To the best of my knowledge none of these are applicable to the full gamut of fractals or even the subset of all non linear differential equations ; which tend to be the most interesting . Just wondering if anyone has some suggestions , I continue to have this feeling that previous contributors to fractint formulas had some notion as to what might be involved with this .

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MF215-02
by Albrecht Niekamp 04 Dec '17

04 Dec '17

This is a test ! , https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5x-kTi5Exz-U7MzR ; Will watch the outcome ; Albrecht

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Taikomati2 Update
by Albrecht Niekamp 04 Dec '17

04 Dec '17

This is an update to yesterday´s Quadro Version, the most exciting Rhythm I´ve heard - it has the addtitional dimension I´ve been looking for. If you dont like it, it´s not my fault. After all it´s only Taikomatic... Fractal Music Uses the japanese Kumoi scale for the first time, a 5 tone guitar scale with the notes: E A D G B E ; https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5xjuurQSB5fF8JRx ; Albrecht

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Taikomatic2
by Albrecht Niekamp 01 Dec '17

01 Dec '17

Added the (different) Quadro Version today - mp3 Hirajoshi Scale and better channel separation Taikomatic_061117TQ. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5xFl0IreS85-a2ep ; Albrecht

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Taikomatic
by Albrecht Niekamp 30 Nov '17

30 Nov '17

Taikomatic Music is alive Music is Life Life has a rhythm Life has a melody Taiko is all And Mathematic Power ; SQUARE.IFS { 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -2.094 -0.769 0.250 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -2.101 -0.012 0.250 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -0.029 0.019 0.250 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -0.041 -0.761 0.250 } Rhythm P9=1811422112413228813121131411 P7=33142114882211241322131211314121 P5=53142114882211241322131211314123 P3=73142114882211241322131211314125 P1=93142114882211241322131211314127 P2=1811422112413228813121131412 P4=33142114882211241322131211314122 P6=53142114882211241322131211314124 P8=73142114882211241322131211314126 P10=93142114882211241322131211314128 ; Phases from left to right ; Image 041117a.bmp (again) ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5xFl0IreS85-a2ep ;

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Infinite Variations2
by Harold Lane 27 Nov '17

27 Nov '17

--------- Albrecht said: ------- > The Fractal Rhythm is a completely new System, > Hal has analyzed it for me, maybe he will supply his > findings in understandable words. Thank You, Hal ! I will try. The wheels inside Albrecht's head have been turning and turning, and have created a very interesting rhythm pattern for his current music. His rhythm is designed to *not* have the rhythmic patterns of the ten voices repeat for a *very* long time. If the format of the table below gets mangled by the email systems, here's a link to a screencap of the correctly formatted table: http://tinyurl.com/Albrechts-rhythms-screencap The numeric value of each digit represents how long each drum's note lasts. (The number of beats it will play for.) And they all play at the same rate. (The same number of beats per minute.) Read below, and you will see that it will be a very long time before all 10 voices repeat the exact same sequence together! Here are Albrecht's 10 channels with the length of time that a note is played, listed in sequence: I've done some rudimentary counting and adding and discovered the numeric basis for his claiming a (close to) infinite variation. "nNotes" is the count of the # of notes (digits) defined for that channel. "sum" is the sum of the digits -- the number of beats -- that a note will play. A quick look will show that Albrecht has a nifty pattern crafted into the rhythms. DR1=111312114221124312213112 . . . . . . . . . sum = 43 nNotes = 24 DR2=11111312114221124312213112 . . . . . . . sum = 45 nNotes = 26 DR3=1111111312114221124312213112 . . . . . sum = 47 nNotes = 28 DR4=111111111312114221124312213112 . . . sum = 49 nNotes = 30 DR5=11111111111312114221124312213112 . sum = 51 nNotes = 32 DR6=11312114221124312213112 . . . . . . . . . . .sum = 42 nNotes = 23 DR7=1111312114221124312213112 . . . . . . . . .sum = 44 nNotes = 25 DR8=111111312114221124312213112 . . . . . . .sum = 46 nNotes = 27 DR9=11111111312114221124312213112 . . . . .sum = 48 nNotes = 29 DR10=1111111111312114221124312213112 . .sum = 50 nNotes = 31 The number of "beats" that will be played before the group of drum voices repeats, looks like it might be: - - - nBeats = 43x45x47x49x51 x 42x44x46x48x50 = - - - 227,271,555 x 204,019,200 = - - - 4.6367760833856e x (10)^16 beats! I initially didn't understand Albrecht's statement: . . . . "All pairs have the same amount of notes" : If each digit represents a note, then when I counted the number of digits in each drum's rhythm, no two drums had the same number of notes (my "nNotes" column above)… There was something I didn't understand about "same amount of notes"... Albrecht explained that phrase to me as follows: ===== The pairs with adjacent phases, for instance, phase 9 plus phase 10 Channel 1 and channel 10, always have a sum of 55 notes, 24 plus 31. That´s necessary to keep the basic rhythm. The new thing about this shifting rhythm is that for instance bass notes shift with high pitch notes or even with drums. ===== Thus, Albrecht has: DR1 nNotes + DR10 nNotes = 24 + 31 = 55 DR2 nNotes + DR9 nNotes = 26 + 29 = 55 DR3 nNotes + DR8 nNotes = 28 + 27 = 55 DR4 nNotes + DR7 nNotes = 30 + 25 = 55 DR5 nNotes + DR6 nNotes = 22 + 23 = 55 He also has different phasing of his channels. I don't understand how this are specified. Any errors in the analysis are mine, not Albrecht's. I've had fun looking at Albrecht's rhythms! - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Infinite Variations 2 (repeat message)
by Albrecht Niekamp 27 Nov '17

27 Nov '17

Added two MP3 versions: InfiVar_0210PQP5 the Quadro Version already available as WAV InfiVar_02101FP5 the Fast Version already available as Midi The Slow Version: InfiVar_02101SP5 has been renamed to avoid double names. Repeat: The Fractal Rhythm is a completely new System, Hal has analyzed it for me, maybe he will supply his findings in understandable words. Thank You, Hal ! ; Note: This still is Fractal Music It has been "created" completely without any human input with only one source : The image to be converted (Tempo37.BMP), a Multifractal Image, and for scanning (sampling) square.ifs. On request repeat previous message with the link included. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5wjNF6ZzOm-xfByj ; Albrecht

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Infinite Variations2
by Albrecht Niekamp 27 Nov '17

27 Nov '17

Added two MP3 versions: InfiVar_0210PQP5 the Quadrosound Version already available as WAV InfiVar_02101FP5 the Fast Version already available as Midi The Slow Version: InfiVar_02101SP5 has been renamed to avoid double names. Repeat: The Fractal Rhythm is a completely new System, Hal has analyzed it for me, maybe he will supply his findings in understandable words. Thank You, Hal ! Albrecht

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Infinite Variations
by Albrecht Niekamp 25 Nov '17

25 Nov '17

Yesterday´s post, maybe you have thought "what´s that supposed to be?" was the first experimental Natural Music item and still is one of my favorites. Play it 3 or 4 times and you know why. Today´s is the last one, maybe. Was about to go on to something else but then had the idea that is realized now. Look at the Rhythm.txt file and you get as impression, what I´ve done. Listen closely to the melodic contrapoints and get captured. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5wjNF6ZzOm-xfByj ; Albrecht

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Integration under differentiation .
by Edward Montague 24 Nov '17

24 Nov '17

Lets examine a very basic differential equation : y' - fn1(x) = 0 this is a test condition that we're interested in , we might even relax this to : | y' - fn1(x) | < epi , where epi is a small tolerance . We're quite familiar with this in fractint . Now suppose that we're able to generate y' and y , as iterated functions . Then when the aforementioned condition is satisfied we have a value for the integral of fn1(x) at x = Pixel ; this being y . As available , via an earlier post of mine , a general formula for finding the derivative of an iterated function . Initially this might just be examined as a fractal . At this stage I really don't know what this might produce ; maybe some interesting fractals .

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Reima65
by Albrecht Niekamp 23 Nov '17

23 Nov '17

; https://1drv.ms/u/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5gwiB7WOxNHY0BrX ;

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Taiko Power
by Albrecht Niekamp 20 Nov '17

20 Nov '17

People coming to my place mostly want to enjoy the Taiko power and it is power! In the middle of 10 different rhythm machines you just cannot pretend that nothing special happens. So I wrote a TaikoTrip Version with a special shifting rhythm, activating the new quadro sound, so all instruments have the same dynamics and energy to push you along on the TaikoTrip TaikoTrip_061117BQ.mp3 (Q at the end always means Quadrosound) ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5UoPDZkDk7NLcqXr ; Albrecht

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Phase S hifting2
by Albrecht Niekamp 19 Nov '17

19 Nov '17

Updated yesterday´s Quadro Version: TaikoTrance_061117CQ for better Channel Separation. Tested with 4 different Midi versions: WinXP Midi Editor and MediaPlayer Win10 WMP and Winamp. Uses the Winamp "Immediate Version" qte send midi events to os in realtime unqte for best results.(Microsoft Soundmapper) The 4 channel playback is identical on all versions but winamp is more dynamic and "alive". Supplied also the MP3 Version. Please compare and tell me if there is any difference, there should be none. This is still the testing phase so will be grateful for any assistance as this has never been tried before, The PhaseShifting should be more or less compatible with most 4 Channel surround systems ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5UoPDZkDk7NLcqXr ; Albrecht

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Slipping & Sliding - Quadrosound
by Albrecht Niekamp 19 Nov '17

19 Nov '17

Test it, you will like the music I guess. The sound is differrent even if you dont have Surround speakers. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5mKPQevBJxhGh9bF Slipping & Sliding_101017PQ.mp3 Albrecht

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Update 11-19 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 19 Nov '17

19 Nov '17

Folks, Image browser now draws boxes, but crashes after one use when <ESC> is used to exit browsing. Fixed Windows version to correctly read and generate GIFs. GIFs created with it prior to this version (11/19) need to be tossed. If you want to keep the image, use the 11/12 version to create a PAR using <b> and then regenerate the image with the 11/19 version. GIFs created with Linux version are not affected. Windows version (32-bit) is: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-11- 19.zip Pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version is: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -11-19.tar.gz or look in the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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Phase Shifting
by Albrecht Niekamp 18 Nov '17

18 Nov '17

Used phase shifting in order to get a pseudo room effect in the previous posts. Now imitating the additional phase shifting as used by my marantz full logic SQ decoder. This means the phases of the requested rear speakers are doubled in order to get a reversed phasing of the sinwave. For me it works, which means all instruments with doubled phasing sound from the rear -left/right switched crosswise. The acoustical middle actually is positioned in the middle of the room and all four sides Front/rear/left/right have a middle position between the respective speakers. I use 4 identical 3way active speakers Most digital decoders use this effect too. Please tell me about your system, what does it sound like ? This effectt is available from midi and means that the listener is placed between the speakers. The file for testing is TaikoTrance 061117CQ.mid ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5UoPDZkDk7NLcqXr ; Albrecht

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[Fractint) TaikoTrance Wav
by Albrecht Niekamp 16 Nov '17

16 Nov '17

Thank you, Alex for your nice words. The folder now also contains the WAV version. Use it to burn a high quality Audio CD. Albrecht

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[Fractint TaikoTrance
by Albrecht Niekamp 15 Nov '17

15 Nov '17

This is a completely new Version of the title which shows the wild side of the Taiko and may be more similar to a live event. Available as Midi and Mp3. The scale is the Pelog scale, a seven note gamelan scale. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5UoPDZkDk7NLcqXr ; Albrecht

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Slipping & Sliding
by Albrecht Niekamp 15 Nov '17

15 Nov '17

This is my latest Fractal Music Creation Available as Midi, Mp3 or Wav. Dig It! ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFG5mKPQevBJxhGh9bF ; Albrecht

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Re: [Fractint] Update 11-12 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 14 Nov '17

14 Nov '17

David, > Was able to reload images with no problems except on one (made with > one > of the more recent prior versions of XFractint SDL) in which an area > of > the image is only partially calculated. If I divide it up in to 6 > horizontal strips, the first four and the sixth strip calculate > fine. > The 5th strip just sits there showing square blocks and never > calculates > them. Pressing Tab reports "Image completed". > > Well, it's not so simple. Some small areas of the image > (MultFace.gif) > don't recalculate, yet other areas in the same rows of the image did. I believe that changing to passes=1 will fix this. I have seen it before (initially with Xfractint years ago) and have a couple of example PARs that reproduce it. It has to do with the solid guessing routines and I would guess it is caused by the change from 16-bit integers to 32-bit (or 64-bit in this case) integers. Eventually, I'll look into it. The solid guessing routines seem like magic to me. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update 11-12 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 12 Nov '17

12 Nov '17

Folks, Increased filename length to 64 characters. Removed upper/lower case restrictions on filenames and extensions. Restoring images should now work. Resizing images by grabbing the edge/corner of the window is still problematic. Windows version (32-bit) is: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-11- 12.zip Pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version is: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -11-12.tar.gz or look in the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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Albrecht has an all-new fractal music composition, TaikoTrance.
by Harold Lane 11 Nov '17

11 Nov '17

Albrecht has an all-new fractal music composition, TaikoTrance. Links are below. Albrecht says: "I tried to create the sound (or what I think it is) of a Japanese TaikoShow. The scale is Hirajoshi, the instruments Taiko only, playing in groups from 1 to 3, and the rhythm - never heard before - judge [for] yourself..... The image and the IFS (Sierpinski) the same again. The image & its IFS used for TaikoTrance: 2017-11-05_SIERPIN.jpg http://tinyurl.com/SIERPIN-jpg or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-05_SIERPIN.jpg SIERPIN.IFS { 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 0.000 1.960 0.336 -0.250 0.430 -0.430 -0.250 1.820 -0.680 0.332 -0.250 -0.430 0.430 -0.250 -1.420 -0.880 0.332 } The fractal MIDI music file, TaikoTrance: 2017-11-07-TaikoTranceV2.MID http://tinyurl.com/TaikoTrance-V2-MID or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-07-TaikoTranceV2.MID Hal says: Taiko is Japanese for drum... "The Hirajoshi scale is a spacious Pentatonic (five-note) scale that evokes images of Japan." Here's a link to a screencap of TaikoShow drumming: http://tinyurl.com/Screencap-of-Taiko-Drums or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-07-Screencap-of-Taiko-Drums. jpg The screencap was taken from this TaikoShow video: http://tinyurl.com/TaikoShow-video or: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeLgSZssMJM&feature=youtu.be Albrecht's piece has an energetic start, and the shifting rhythms provide occasional syncopation and anticipation of the beat which I find very pleasurable. As the piece progresses it appears more "laid back." The tones of the drums are very pleasing to me -- compared to the simple thumping of a bass drum. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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early fractint?
by Bill Jemison 10 Nov '17

10 Nov '17

Does anyone know where can I access earlier versions of fractint? I am particularly interested in pre-ver20.0, including incremental releases. Thanks! Bill Jemison Audio Fractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home>

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Lee Skinner par file
by Edward Montague 09 Nov '17

09 Nov '17

I've downloaded the file LHS_MF01.PAR . After renaming it to LHS_MF01.par and using @ then F6 , within xfractint , I'm able to load the file and generate the image ; as seen at his website. I see the parameters , however the formula isn't obvious , there's reference made to fractint.frm , however I don't find the formula there.

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Fractals at Heart of African Design
by Bill Jemison 09 Nov '17

09 Nov '17

I just happened upon this most interesting video. It is 10 years old, but still fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/yavjjk9r Cheers, Bill Jemison Audio Fractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home>

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Square Dance
by Albrecht Niekamp 06 Nov '17

06 Nov '17

Repeat my last message as it apparently got los and did not make it to the forum ; Hal, thank you soo much for all your efforts! ; After listening to all 3 files in WAV mode again I still think espeacially the Sierpinski Stomp still is worth listening indeed, a rhythmiic trip - sry. David, I think you too use the "Direct Midi to MP3 Converter" Super Software ! Recommend to convert it to WAV using the direct recording mode and your very good Midi font. 110MB ! Cheers, Albrecht On 06.11.2017 08:53, Harold Lane wrote: > Albrecht's has created two new fractal music pieces: Square Dance & > Sierpinski Stomp.... > >

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Albrecht's new fractal music:: Square Dance & Sierpinski Stomp
by Harold Lane 06 Nov '17

06 Nov '17

Albrecht's has created two new fractal music pieces: Square Dance & Sierpinski Stomp. Below are links to the sound files and the IFS images used to create the music. Their Iterated Function System formulas that created the images -- which control part of the music creation process -- are included in this email. Square Dance ------------------- Swir15-IFS.gif http://tinyurl.com/Swir15-IFS-gif or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-04_Swir15-IFS.gif 2017-11-05_Square_Dance-updated.mp3 MIDI Converted to MP3 with higher audio quality. http://tinyurl.com/Square-Dance-updated-mp3 or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-05_Square_Dance-updated.mp3 Square-Dance-updated.MID http://tinyurl.com/Square-Dance-updated-MID or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-05_Square-Dance-updated.MID SWIR15.IFS { 0.745455 -0.459091 0.406061 0.887121 1.460279 0.691072 0.912675 -0.42424 -0.065152 -0.175758 -0.218182 3.809567 6.741476 0.087325 } 2nd Part of Square Dance ---------------------------------- A Sierpinski IFS & its image are used for the 2nd Part of Square Dance: 2017-11-05_SIERPIN.jpg http://tinyurl.com/SIERPIN-jpg or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-05_SIERPIN.jpg 2017-11-05_Square-Dance-2nd-part.MID http://tinyurl.com/Square-Dance-2nd-part-MID or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-05_Square-Dance-2nd-part.MID SIERPIN.IFS { 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 0.000 1.960 0.336 -0.250 0.430 -0.430 -0.250 1.820 -0.680 0.332 -0.250 -0.430 0.430 -0.250 -1.420 -0.880 0.332 } Sierpinski Stomp ---------------------- This music uses the same IFS and image as the 2nd Part of Square Dance. Albrecht says, . "The new material for me is fascinating . and the best I have ever done. So here is a long (150 Bars) . version with the Sierpinski [image used] for scanning. . . Many interesting sounds only show after more than 100 bars . due to the shifting [nature of the rhythms.] . . This IFS is a special one as it evokes rhythms not available . with any other IFS. Maybe you like it too, kind of jazzy." 2017-11-05_Sierpinski-Stomp.MID http://tinyurl.com/Sierpinski-Stomp-MID or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-05_Sierpinski-Stomp.MID Bonus Image from Albrecht ------------------------------------ 2017-11-04_Non-Square-Dance-fractal.png http://tinyurl.com/Non-Square-Dance-fractal-png or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-04_Non-Square-Dance-fractal. png Hal says, "It's a very nice image. The yellow, blue and green bands of colors in the color map even make their own 3-armed spiral converging at the center! And the red, purple and blue color bands *also* make a 3-armed spiral between the arms of the other spiral! Very nice!" If I got all these links, file associations and comments matched up correctly, it will be a minor miracle... - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Albrecht's fractal music - Move3 Part 3, "Homecoming"
by Harold Lane 04 Nov '17

04 Nov '17

After "a lot of experimenting," Albrecht has written a new Fractal Rhythm scheme and produced new fractal music, whose title is: "Homecoming". ;This is the rhythm: DR=83142114882211241322131211314121 DR=63142114882211241322131211314121 DR=43142114882211241322131211314121 DR=23142114882211241322131211314121 DR=314211488221124132213121131411 DR=214211488221124132213121131411 DR=13142114882211241322131211314121 DR=33142114882211241322131211314121 DR=53142114882211241322131211314121 DR=73142114882211241322131211314121 ;This is the IFS File SQUARE.IFS { ; Albrect 2017-11-01 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -2.094 -0.769 0.250 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -2.101 -0.012 0.250 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -0.029 0.019 0.250 0.500 0.000 0.000 0.500 -0.041 -0.761 0.250 } I put Albrecht's IFS image and MIDI format music file on my server. For the IFS fractal, I arbitrarily chose 350 iterations and the rotated Froth3.map color map shown in the screencap below: I squeezed the incorrect aspect ratio image from Fractint for Windows beta 5 (not for general distribution; renamed Iterated Dynamics) with a graphics app to make it square. I like the way the "squares" are ever-so-slightly tilted, so that they: - leave slivers of empty space *and* - overlap a sliver of the adjacent square on all size scales: Be sure to view the image full size, or your browser will likely blur the single pixels. http://tinyurl.com/SQUARE-IFS or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-01_Square_IFS.jpg Here's his 82 KB MIDI file: http://tinyurl.com/Homecoming-MID or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-11-01_Homecoming.MID As Albrecht's comment: - "Sometimes you walk, sometimes you take a slow path and dream, sometimes you run." implies, his nicely-counterpointed music sometimes strides along, sometimes meanders, but, always moves forward -- towards home. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Voltage-driven liquid metal fractals
by David W. Jones 03 Nov '17

03 Nov '17

I didn't look for an image, but maybe Fractint plus an appropriate color mask could render something like it? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171030154443.htm -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail.

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Re: [Fractint] New email
by Timothy Wegner 03 Nov '17

03 Nov '17

I've been out of the country in Southern Africa and off the grid. The archives look OK to me right now. True that November hasn't shown up yet, but there's usually a delay. As has been mentioned, from time to time there have been problems. Sometimes the missing posts appear when the Xmission folks look at the mailman server and do magic incantations, but sometimes there's a permanent gap if there was a real server hardware problem. I have all the emails on my machine (not that that fact helps much.). I have no powers to directly look at the archives server. It is possible to grab all the archives with the httrack application. Tim On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Bill Jemison <bill.jemison(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The list archives now show up to Oct 31, but not any Nov emails. > > Bill Jemison > Audio Fractals <https://sites.google.com/site/audiofractals/home> > > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 9:00 PM david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote: > > > On 10/28/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Montague wrote: > > > As this is a new email address , I'm mostly expecting email from the > > > fractint > > > discussion group ; therefore yours is a sensibe suggestion . > > > > > > I also note that with gmail there's the option to mark certain emails > > > as being > > > important ; other filters might exists . > > > > > > There are fractint messages from my previous address that I want to > > save > > > having these in digest form might be the appropriate way. > > > > > > So is there a fractint digest , or equivalent , repository that I > > > might frequent. > > > > I went to the link in the list footer: > > > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > It shows a link to access the list archives: > > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/list/fractint.en.html > > > > I don't know how current they are. I jumped to October 2017, but the > > date it landed on is June 2017. Tried some other dates/months, it looks > > like that's as far up as the archive goes. > > > > -- > > David W. Jones > > gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com > > authenticity, honesty, community > > http://dancingtreefrog.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fractint mailing list > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint >

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Re: [Fractint] New email
by david 02 Nov '17

02 Nov '17

On 10/28/2017 04:31 PM, Edward Montague wrote: > As this is a new email address , I'm mostly expecting email from the > fractint > discussion group ; therefore yours is a sensibe suggestion . > > I also note that with gmail there's the option to mark certain emails > as being > important ; other filters might exists . > > There are fractint messages from my previous address that I want to save > having these in digest form might be the appropriate way. > > So is there a fractint digest , or equivalent , repository that I > might frequent. I went to the link in the list footer: > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint It shows a link to access the list archives: https://mailman.xmission.com/lurker/list/fractint.en.html I don't know how current they are. I jumped to October 2017, but the date it landed on is June 2017. Tried some other dates/months, it looks like that's as far up as the archive goes. -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Re: [Fractint] Update 10-29 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 02 Nov '17

02 Nov '17

Folks, Fixed 'history' ('h' and 'CNTL-h'). Fixed the ant type. Sped up initial color cycling. Number pad works. Sped up response to a key press in large disk video modes. Fixed the artifacts from the blinking cursor. Updated character set to include the arrow symbols thanks to Harold Lane. Windows version (32-bit) is: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10- 29.zip Pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version is: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -10-29.tar.gz or look in the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update 10-29 to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 01 Nov '17

01 Nov '17

David, > First attempt: XFractint SDL gave me a text message saying it didn't > understand the file format. Image was named MultiFace.gif (9.3) and > displayed on the selection screen as "MultiFace.gi". Then tried to > open > another saved image, scurve01.gif (8.3). Crashed with the "stack > smashing detected" message. > > Second attempt: Changed name to "MultFace.gif", tried again. Crashed > with stack smashing message. MultFace is a 1920x1080x256 image > generated > and saved by the 10/22 SDL version. Can you create a PAR of the image and post it? Jonathan

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kaos and quantum entanglement
by Edward Montague 29 Oct '17

29 Oct '17

I came across this article at the futurism website. https://futurism.com/new-equation-explains-quantum-chaos/ One of the links , the author's , goes through to a location where the experimental and theoretical results , tend to show that quantum entanglement has strong similarities to the Julia set . This suggest another approach to taming quantum entanglement. The UNSW , Australia , depicts quantum entanglement as being a tenuous connection between two particles , or group of particles . Of course quantum entanglement is a three dimensional effect , four if you include time , to model this something like Mandelbulber might be used . There might be even more dimensions involved with quantum entanglement .

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Re: [Fractint] non SDL xfractint
by david 29 Oct '17

29 Oct '17

On 10/28/2017 04:13 PM, Edward Montague wrote: > Presently I'm using xfractint on a Debian distro , this was readily > available via the synaptic package manager. It's the most convenient way to get it. I haven't compiled a Linux program for at least 10 years now. > I was just wondering if there was an SDL version for this 32 bit > operating system , and if so , Sending this reply back to the list since Jonathan Osuch is the developer working on the SDL version. If he has a 32-bit version, it would be here: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ I don't see one there right now but maybe he could compile one? > what might the improvements be in using that. Well, you can change resolution/screen sizes, do color cycling, probably some other things that non-SDL XFractint doesn't do. Non-SDL XFractint has a command line option to specify the window size, I have mine set to 1920x1080 to fit my desktop. I haven't checked to see if any of the DOS Fractint memory limitations have been relaxed in XFractint, such as in the formula parser. SDL XFractint can't currently do things like reload saved images (at least mine crashes when I do that). It can crash mysteriously when dragging the XFractint window around on the desktop. I think most of the SDL XFractint issues have been mentioned on the list recently? > On another note , I'm using onboard , graphical keyboard , with > xfractint and this is quite convenient . Sorry, don't know what that means. I use my boring old favorite clicky IBM AT keyboard. My tablet has a graphical keyboard, but I don't use Fractint on it. ;) -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Re: [Fractint] // Thanks for appraising me of the 2015 Xfractint's capabilities. //
by Harold Lane 28 Oct '17

28 Oct '17

Thanks for the Xfractint info David. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David W. Jones Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 1:00 AM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] // Thanks for appraising me of the 2015 Xfractint's capabilities. // If you want the non-SDL version of XFractint, check your Linux version's package manager. Debian has it, so I think Ubuntu has it, too. They should have the 32-bit version already available as a package: no compilation required. On October 27, 2017 6:45:19 PM HST, Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > Thanks for appraising me of the 2015 Xfractint's general capabilities. > ...and the 32-bit compiler required for the make. > > - Hal Lane > > ######################## > # hallane(a)earthlink.net > ######################## > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On > Behalf Of Jonathan Osuch > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 6:38 PM > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Fractint] Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might > try? > > On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 13:19 -0400, Harold Lane wrote: > > > Do you happen to know what Fractint features -- and compatibility > > with current Linux distros SciWise would get if he ran the Makefile > > on that old (23-Aug-2015) tarball? : > > > > https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/xfractint-20.04p14.tar.gz > > Simple answer is, no. Xfractint has a lot of the functionality of > Fractint, but doesn't allow changing the window size, rotating the > zoom > box, color cycling, palette editing... > > > Does the "XFree86-libs" listed as needed in the Read.me in: > > https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/ > > mean that it's a 32-bit version? <== <== > > The 32-bit is referring to the compiler used to make the executable. > > Jonathan > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint -- David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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// Thanks for appraising me of the 2015 Xfractint's capabilities. //
by Harold Lane 28 Oct '17

28 Oct '17

Thanks for appraising me of the 2015 Xfractint's general capabilities. ...and the 32-bit compiler required for the make. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Osuch Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 6:38 PM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might try? On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 13:19 -0400, Harold Lane wrote: > Do you happen to know what Fractint features -- and compatibility > with current Linux distros SciWise would get if he ran the Makefile > on that old (23-Aug-2015) tarball? : > > https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/xfractint-20.04p14.tar.gz Simple answer is, no. Xfractint has a lot of the functionality of Fractint, but doesn't allow changing the window size, rotating the zoom box, color cycling, palette editing... > Does the "XFree86-libs" listed as needed in the Read.me in: > https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/ > mean that it's a 32-bit version? <== <== The 32-bit is referring to the compiler used to make the executable. Jonathan _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: [Fractint] Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might try?
by Jonathan Osuch 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

On Fri, 2017-10-27 at 13:19 -0400, Harold Lane wrote: > Do you happen to know what Fractint features -- and compatibility > with current Linux distros SciWise would get if he ran the Makefile > on that old (23-Aug-2015) tarball? : > > https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/xfractint-20.04p14.tar.gz Simple answer is, no. Xfractint has a lot of the functionality of Fractint, but doesn't allow changing the window size, rotating the zoom box, color cycling, palette editing... > Does the "XFree86-libs" listed as needed in the Read.me in: > https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/ > mean that it's a 32-bit version? <== <== The 32-bit is referring to the compiler used to make the executable. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might try?
by Jonathan Osuch 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

Folks, > The read.me says: > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > --------------------- > Download the source tarball (for example: xfract20.3.02.tar.gz), put > it in > your home directory, and untar it with the command: This read.me is ancient and does not apply to the SDL version. In order to create a source package of the SDL version that can be compiled, I will need to create a Make file. Since I am developing in an IDE, I haven't done this yet. If by package it is meant a pre-compiled 32-bit version, then no, there is not one available. Although I am doing it now for the 64-bit SDL version, I prefer to not distribute pre-compiled versions for Linux. There are too many variables from one distribution to the next, and I can't guess what they all may be (or cause). Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

Tony, > I only ever edit the cfg and ini files with Notepad, yes, and save > them as > their proper extensions, ANSI encoding. There is one possibility that occurs to me. If I last edited them under Linux, then the End Of Line coding could be incorrect (LF vs CR LF). I'll have a look at it. I will also start zipping the Windows version files differently to see if that makes a difference in how the executable behaves. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

Tony, > For several releases now, I've had crashes on startup (Windows > version) > when I try to change the fractint.cfg or sstools.ini files. Are you using a text editor to edit these files? I use Notepad with no problems. > Or, if I get to > rendering point, if I ask for a new render size via Del, I get a > crash; or > if I try to use a short-cut key like f7 to bypass Del, it also > crashes. I can't explain this. The video interface is not as robust as it should be. (duh!) Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might try?
by Harold Lane 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

SciWise, (copy to Jonathan Osuch), > Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might try? > Preferably as a package . This directory has a 32-bit (I believe) Linux version: https://fractint.net/ftp/current/linux/ But, I think you'll have to compile & link it... (My understanding of packages is lacking. I'm not familiar with Linux.) The read.me says: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Download the source tarball (for example: xfract20.3.02.tar.gz), put it in your home directory, and untar it with the command: tar -xzf xfract20.3.02.tar.gz This will create the directory xfractint-20.03p02 containing the source. You might want to change the directory name to xfractint for convenience. You will need to have gcc, ncurses, and ncurse-develop installed. You also need the XFree86-libs package installed for the X11 libraries. This package should already be installed, but if it isn't and your distribution doesn't have it, then you need the XFree86-devel package. The Makefile is set up for my convenience, so if you want to put files in different directories, you will need to change the SRCDIR setting. Otherwise, just run make from the source directory and it should compile. Run ./xfractint to start it up. Jonathan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Jonathan may be able to provide what you're looking for... Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)mediacombb.net> - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of sciwise(a)ihug.co.nz Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 12:50 AM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version Is there a Linux 32 bit version that I might try . Preferably as a package . --- --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Simpson integration for iterated function
by Edward Montague 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

After noticing the structure of the Simpson Integration Formula I realized that for interated functions this simplified somewhat. The two formulas are simpf1 , for Mandelbrot Set , and simpfn1 for a general function fn1 . Simpson integration is a low order approach , therefore most of the fractal structure of the iterated function appears to be preserved . simpf1(XAXIS) {; sciwise ; Simpson's integration applied to f1. c = Pixel s = 0 x0 = c x1 = (x0*x0) + c x2 = (x1*x1) + c : s = s + (x1 - x0)*( x2 + x1) x0 = x1 x1 = x2 x2 = (x2*x2) + c z = 0.5*abs(s) |z| < 40000 } simpfn1(XAXIS) {; sciwise ; Simpson's integration applied to f1. c = Pixel s = 0 x0 = c x1 = fn1(x0) x2 = fn1(x1) : s = s + (x1 - x0)*( x2 + x1) x0 = x1 x1 = x2 x2 = fn1(x2) z = 0.5*abs(s) |z| < 40000 }

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

Folks, I updated the maximum path length to 512 characters. The zoom box using page-up and page-down can now be rotated and skewed. Changing windows sizes should now auto regenerate the image. There are still problems with changing to full-screen with the Linux version. It may be due to differences between version 2.0.4 (Linux) and 2.0.6 (Windows) of SDL2, or it could be something else. In both Linux and Windows, changing back from full-screen to a window using the <DEL> key generates the correct sized image until you move the window, then it reverts to the size you had it before you changed to full-screen. Windows version (32-bit) is: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10- 22.zip Pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version is: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -10-22.tar.gz or look in the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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New email
by Edward Montague 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

Just determining if this is functioning .

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mail undelivered
by sciwise＠ihug.co.nz 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

My mail isn't being forwarded to the group . One message went through a few days ago ; now this isn't possible . I'm wondering if this is a consequence of my present email provider using antiquated and incompatible software for their mail system . Anyway I'm moving over to gmail , do you experiende problems with that provider ?

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Re: [Fractint] New Fractal Music from Albrecht: "Contemplation, & Contrapoints"
by Albrecht Niekamp 22 Oct '17

22 Oct '17

Sorry for late reply due to hospital stay. Love your mp3 versions. As the main title is move3 I´m working on a final third part. If you´re interested: The moving effect is created by playing every other left note with the riht hand VV. The left-right effect is unchanged as the midi output channel remains. Tell me if you want some details about natural music, combined with the latest version of the fractal rythm. It IS something different. Albrecht On 19.10.2017 09:26, david wrote: > Here are links to them on my family site: > > http://clanjones.org/david/2017-10-12_Contemplation_NAM90P79.mp3 > > http://clanjones.org/david/2017-10-12_Contrapoints_NAM90P80.mp3 > > Let me know when you get them. Hope you like them! Here are links to them on my family site: http://clanjones.org/david/2017-10-12_Contemplation_NAM90P79.mp3 http://clanjones.org/david/2017-10-12_Contrapoints_NAM90P80.mp3 Let me know when you get them. Hope you like them!

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RE Color maps in the latest FractInt
by Knute 21 Oct '17

21 Oct '17

Thanks Jonathan for responding to my problem with bringing up Fractint's Maps Window with <c> <l>. Preassing <c>, <l> caused the 3 latest versions of Fractint to crash, and then it got worse: I could not even open any of the 3 latest versions (they would immediately crash before completely opening). Well, I just downloaded _SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10-15_.zip once again, unzipped it and left the resulting Folder right there in my Downloads Folder. From it I opened Fractint no problem, and I pressed <c>, <l> , brought up the Maps Folder and changed color.maps no problem. So apparently the crashing problems arose because I had MOVED my Fractint Folders (I consolidated all my Fractal stuff residing in Downloads into one Fractals Folder... thus they were moved after I had unzipped them). Note: by 'moved' I mean that I moved the originally-unzipped Folders containing Fractint.exe, SDL2.DLL, etc.; I did not move the .exe or .dll out of their original Folders. So, it looks like I would not have had any crashing problems if I had not moved the _SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10-15 Folder_ after unzipping it. At least, my latest re-download tonight is working fine. Thank you Jonathan!

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Re: [Fractint] RE Color maps in the latest FractInt
by Jonathan Osuch 20 Oct '17

20 Oct '17

Hal, > > How could simply unzipping files into a folder, then *moving that > > folder* mess up something in the files themselves...? > It doesn't mess up anything in the files. The problem is caused > because Windows created a registry key that included where the > *original* executable was located -- likely when Jonathan's Fractint > SDL was first run in the *original* directory. > > Knute ran CCleaner to try and solve this exact problem, and CCleaner > found that the key no longer matched the folder that the .EXE was in, > and complained, which allowed me to see the key problem. This key > mismatch explains why you can move the zip file -- but not the exe -- > to another folder, *especially* if you have already run Fractint. I just tried this in Windows 10 several times with no problems. A more plausible explanation may be that the path (from the root directory to the executable) exceeded 256 characters. This is hard coded and doesn't fail gracefully. I will increase this limit. A month or two ago, we were seeing a similar problem with putting the folder on the desktop in Windows. This has been fixed. The problem was that there were some buffers overflowing. We could be seeing it again. Jonathan

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Equation for fractals at quantum level
by sciwise＠ihug.co.nz 19 Oct '17

19 Oct '17

Observing and simulating quantum entanglement , tends to show that fractals are what's involved . In particular what appear to be Julia sets. Just wondering if anyone has access to an article that contains the equation that describes all of this . This appears to be an extension of a decade and a half earlier article on the fractal nature of electron orbits .

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 19 Oct '17

19 Oct '17

David, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would be the correct aspect ratio for 1920x1080? 0.56? > > Define correct. Do we want square pixels? > Yes. Like they look on my other Linux graphics apps and such. I'll have a look at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see that the <DEL> screen isn't finding the current video > > > > mode > > like > > it should. I'll have to back out changes to see what happened. > Well, I just tried it from my new-default 1920x1080 screen. Del > found > the list of video modes. I picked SF6 (800x600) and got an 800x600 > fractal in the lower left corner of my 1920x1080 window. It seemed > to > find all the modes. I would assume that your 1920x1080 is actually full screen. A full screen video mode will not behave as expected (like DOS Fractint) when a new video size is selected using <DEL>. I had tried to implement it, but was having trouble determining the causes of the problems we were (and still are) having with the different video modes, so I took it out. Once switching normal window sizes works, I will work on getting <DEL> to work when the image is full screen. OTOH, we could have the <DEL> selection reduce the window size to be not full screen. Any preferences? Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] RE Color maps in the latest FractInt
by Jonathan Osuch 18 Oct '17

18 Oct '17

Knute, > > Anybody know how to change COLOR.MAPs in Jon's latest FractInt > > (SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10-15)? > > > > I just installed it but find that it crashes every time I try to > > change > > to a different color.map... every time I press "C", then "L". > > "E+Enter" > > brings up the Color Editor just fine, but I can find no way, no > > keystrokes to bring up the Maps Folder. > Did you move the executable? The zip file has a new SDL2.dll file > along with an updated fractint.hlp file. If you are moving the > executable, since I updated the version of SDL2 I was using, the > SDL2.dll would need to be moved also. Hmm, I tried using the old dll and it worked fine. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] RE Color maps in the latest FractInt
by Jonathan Osuch 17 Oct '17

17 Oct '17

On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 02:49 -0700, Knute wrote: > Anybody know how to change COLOR.MAPs in Jon's latest FractInt > (SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10-15)? > > I just installed it but find that it crashes every time I try to > change > to a different color.map... every time I press "C", then "L". > "E+Enter" > brings up the Color Editor just fine, but I can find no way, no > keystrokes to bring up the Maps Folder. Did you move the executable? The zip file has a new SDL2.dll file along with an updated fractint.hlp file. If you are moving the executable, since I updated the version of SDL2 I was using, the SDL2.dll would need to be moved also. If you didn't move the executable (without the new dll), I have no idea what the problem is. I will try to recreate the problem in a test directory. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 17 Oct '17

17 Oct '17

David, > Well, I just tried it and didn't get any seg faults. Yes, it's a > 1920x1080 window, but when XFractint SDL 10/15 opens, it first gives > me > a small window (640x480?) in the middle of the screen. I press Shift- > F10 > to switch to my HD window size, but the enlarged window keeps the > same > location of the upper left of the XFractint window, leaving most of > it > off screen. So I have to drag it back up (for upper left corner of > screen) to make the whole thing visible. You have a video mode in fractint.cfg with a key code of SF10? You can set the default window size in sstools.ini. It is currently set for 800x600 (unless you changed what SF6 means). In your case, use the xfractint entries. > What would be the correct aspect ratio for 1920x1080? 0.56? Define correct. Do we want square pixels? > > You should get an option to select the video mode (window size) > > before > > the actual loading of the image starts. After you select one, you > > should see a garbled red screen with a warning about using a view > > window and needing to reset things when you are done. Pressing > > enter > > should load the image (slowly). > It was rendered in disk video mode. But it doesn't even get to > prompting > me for a video mode. Just crashes with the error messages I > mentioned > earlier. I see that the <DEL> screen isn't finding the current video mode like it should. I'll have to back out changes to see what happened. Jonathan

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RE Color maps in the latest FractInt
by Knute 17 Oct '17

17 Oct '17

Anybody know how to change COLOR.MAPs in Jon's latest FractInt (SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10-15)? I just installed it but find that it crashes every time I try to change to a different color.map... every time I press "C", then "L". "E+Enter" brings up the Color Editor just fine, but I can find no way, no keystrokes to bring up the Maps Folder. I don't recall having this problem in Jon's previous 2 versions. Any suggestions?

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 15 Oct '17

15 Oct '17

Folks, I've updated the SDL port to not crash as often when changing image sizes. The Windows version sometimes provides a blank screen because it thinks the parameters have changed. Toggling the <F> key (floating point) will get the image to generate. The mouse zoom box behaves a little differently in that it will now change size in the direction the mouse is moving. I am working on a 64-bit Windows version, but it doesn't want to link. Windows version (32-bit) is: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10- 15.zip Pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version is: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -10-15.tar.gz or look in the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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New Fractal Music from Albrecht: "Contemplation, & Contrapoints"
by Harold Lane 15 Oct '17

15 Oct '17

After I posted Albrecht's new fractal music pieces: "Contemplation," "Contrapoints" and their source fractal, "move3", he said: 'I would like to add the original source image "move" '. Here are links to a JPG version of that original source image: http://tinyurl.com/Original-source-image-move or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/221014-Hurricane3-Move.jpg I also have the ~3MB .BMP version if you need that format of the image... - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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New Fractal Music from Albrecht: "Contemplation, & Contrapoints"
by Harold Lane 13 Oct '17

13 Oct '17

Albrecht Niekamp made two new fractal music pieces and gave me permission to put them on my server and post links to them on the Fractint list. If I understand it correctly, the quality of the sound generated by the MIDI sound hardware and software can vary from computer to computer. That said, on my computer the MIDI versions of Albrecht's 1st piece, Contemplation, is has a nice -- yes -- contemplative, always advancing feel to it, with pleasant syncopation felt from time to time. His second piece, Contrapoints, is similar, but with, perhaps, a more relaxed feel to it. As is often the case with Albrecht's fractal music, both pieces do not have an ending cadence, but just sort of stop. When the first piece ended, I initially felt, "Hey. I was listening to that. Where did it go?" More careful listening to the ending left me feeling better about it. Here they are: 1st part: http://tinyurl.com/Contemplation-NAM90P79-MID or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-10-12_Contemplation_NAM90P79.M… 2nd part: http://tinyurl.com/Contrapoints-NAM90P80-MID or: www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-10-12_Contrapoints_NAM90P80.MID The music's source fractal image is the same one as he used for his fractal music piece, Flying: http://tinyurl.com/2017-03-19-Flying-Move3-jpg or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-03-19_Flying_Move3.jpg (Albrecht actually uses the (larger) .BMP version of the image.) Enjoy! - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 10 Oct '17

10 Oct '17

David, > When I run DOS Fractint under DOSBox here, it can change resolutions > but DOSBox doesn't allow resizing the window. > > I have a 1920x1080 disk video mode set up for DOSFractint that works. > Would be nice if DOSFractint allowed me to use a non-disk window that > size. :) You can put any window size you want into fractint.cfg. If it is too big, fractint 'should' send you back to the selection screen. Also, if you rename fractint.cfg to something else (say fractint_old.cfg), then the available window sizes will be auto detected and you can see them using the <DEL> key. It currently won't save a new fractint.cfg file. It is in the works. Write down the suitable window sized, change your fractint.cfg file back, and then edit the entries as needed. Full screen may not work very well because of differences between the actual physical screen size and the allowable area for writing to the screen without drawing on the task bar, etc. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 10 Oct '17

10 Oct '17

Hal, > Can someone else try changing the resolution of the output fractal in > *non-SDL* Xfractint with the Delete key, and report their results > here? Xfractint is run from the command line with the desired resolution. It has no capability to change the resolution once running. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 09 Oct '17

09 Oct '17

I put the pre-compiled 64-bit Linux version on the developers web site as: http://www.fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-Xfractint-20.05alpha-2017 -10-08.tar.gz Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 08 Oct '17

08 Oct '17

Folks, I've updated the SDL port to support the palette color editor. Use the cursor keys, since the mouse support is unusable at this time. Disk video modes other than 2-color modes work now. Video modes (other than disk video) larger than the current screen size will now send you back to the video selection screen. https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10- 08.zip or the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 08 Oct '17

08 Oct '17

I did get my Linux development environment working again. The Linux version of the SDL port works with some differences. The 2-color disk video modes run with no problems. The large disk video modes in fractint.cfg run in computer memory and not using the hard disk. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 04 Oct '17

04 Oct '17

Folks, I've updated the SDL port to support color cycling. The color editor still doesn't work. I added disk video modes for the largest sizes supported to the end of fractint.cfg. If you want to be able to run them more than once before having to restart Fractint, assign them to key codes (like AF6 & AF7). I am working on fixing this. https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10- 01.zip or the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] REquest for a lil basic FractInt info
by Knute 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Knute asked: ...I miss FractInt; I am only able to use Windows 7 (64-bit). My question is this: As of October, 2017 is it really still impossible to run FractInt on Windows (esp. Win 7)?... (Not "virtually" and not WinFract). Timothy Wegner replied: Jonathan (Osuch) has rebuilt Fractint using the SDL library, and this versions does indeed run natively under Windows 10. Knute: Thanks very much Timothy for responding! Although I do not have Windows 10, I rushed to download the file you designated (SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10-01.zip) to try it on my Windows 7. The result: The Fractint.exe file opened a small window labelled "Fractint" at the upper-left, but no Menu, no controls whatsoever. Right-click did nothing - no dialog, no controls. The small window was resizeable, but after re-sizing it a couple times the program crashed. What this program DID do was show a picture of a basic Mandelbrot, and a Left-click-drag resulted in Zooms. Lastly, I opened the included FRACTINT.HLP file in Windows but it was empty. Then I forced FRACTINT.HLP to open in Fractint.exe. All that did was to open Fractint. AND THEN I REMEMBERED TO OLD "F1" KEY in ancient FractInt! So, with Jonathan Osuch's FractInt open I pressed the F1 key and VOILA! there was FractInt (all the controls). *_So it does work in Windows 7!_* *_So it does work in Windows 7!_* *_So it does work in Windows 7!_* (If only someone had mentioned the F1 Help Key at the first. Hope it goes into your FAQs.)

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REquest for a lil basic FractInt info
by Knute 02 Oct '17

02 Oct '17

I loved FractInt since 1994-5 when I got my first PC. Now I just miss FractInt; I am only able to use Windows 7 (64-bit). Yes, I tried to install a Linux a few years ago but gave up. I also did try out two Virtual things when I was using Windows XP so I might have FractInt, but they were unsatisfactory and FractInt kept crashing. My question is this: As of October, 2017 is it really still impossible to run FractInt on Windows (esp. Win 7)?... (Not "virtually" and not WinFract). If so, then... If you were me, stuck with only Windows 7, then would someone kindly suggest how you would get FractInt to run (even if it has to involve some virtual program)? Thank you much for your time!

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Update to SDL version
by osuchj＠mediacombb.net 02 Oct '17

02 Oct '17

Folks, I've updated the experimental SDL version on the Developers website. It now runs a disk video mode, but only once, then it crashes. Jonathan

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Galactic Amoebas
by Mike Frazier 01 Oct '17

01 Oct '17

This fractal is one I found in 2016 while experimenting with one of Jim Muth's favorite formulas, the FinDivBrot-2. The formula makes nice fractals and I was interested in seeing what it would look like when used with the parallel resistor formula that I have posted here many times before. Jim's original formula with a = -1 in simplified form is: z = b * z * z / (1 / z + b) + pixel Using it in the parallel resistor formula, rp = 1 / (1/r +1/r) I got. z1 = b * z * z / (1 / z + b) z = 1 / (1 / (z1 + c1) + 1 / (z1 + c2)) You never know if something like this will make an interesting fractal without trying it. Since I was just exploring, I used Jim's original color map. You can probably guess what happened. I found this fractal that I liked with Jim's colors. I couldn't change it without losing the nice green galactic nebula appearance. So here it is with Jim's original color map unchanged. You can see an image on the Fracton web site at: http://www.fracton.org/fmlposts/galacticamoebas.html Hal Lane and I explored many other fractals in this formula. It tends to make a lot of fractals with tendrils. A few are visible at the boundary between the green and the black along the left side in this image. If you would like to see a collection of all the images and movies on the Fracton website you can go to the gallery page at: http://www.fracton.org/gallery.html The FractInt compatible PAR file for the image is: GalacticAmoebas { ; Exported from Fracton. reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=fracton.frm formulaname=F_20171001_1432 passes=1 float=y center-mag=-4.057989461979981/0/112104.10256781/1/\ 0/0 params=1/0/-1/0/0/333/0/0/0/0 maxiter=2000 inside=0 outside=tdis colors=000CpEAnG9mIDcLGVOJMRLOPNPMPRKRTITVFVWDXYBY\ Z9XiYXtuSloNdiIXbEPXCUYA_Z8d_6j`4pa2uaBq`Ll`Uh_ccZ\ cYbbSebNiaHlaCoa6ra1u`4p_7jZAeYE_YHVTJWOKWJLWENWAO\ W5PW1QW8UZGYaObdWfgcjjknmsrpzvryqrxmqwhqvcpu_ptVps\ RpmVmfYi_afUebOiZHlWBpS5sP5mO6gO6aN7WN8QN8KM9EM88K\ 89M9AN9BPACRADS89N66I53D408908F19K2AQ3BW4C`5Df6Ek6\ EoFKtNPzVUzbZzkczshztbzuYzvczwczzczzczzczfc7zf7zh8\ zgKzgKzfUzfczeczeczfczhcziczjwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzz\ wzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwzzwz\ zwzwwzwwzmwzmwzgwzcwzTwzRwzPwzOwzKwzHwzEwzBwz8wzFw\ zMwzTwz_wzfwzmwztwzzwzqwzhwzZwzQwzHwbUwZewVqwMiwMd\ wN_wNWwORwONVONUONUNMUNMTNMTNMTMLSMLSMLSMLSMLSLKRL\ KRKJRKJQKJQKJQKJQKJQKJPKJPJIPJIPJIOIHOIHOIHNIHeLTh\ GNYFINEDCD81D45O89YBAcBBiBCoBDuBNg9YU7hG5s34lB6fK8\ _TATaCNiEGrGAzILlQW_XfMdeLedLecKfbKfaKf`Kf`KfAlfBk\ hCijDhlEfnFeoHcqIbsFsADqC } frm:F_20171001_1432 { ; Based on Lucid_Dreams June 10, 2016 by Jim Muth ; Modified for use in parallel resistor formula esc=(16),b=imag(p3), c1=p1+pixel,c2=p2+pixel, z=1/(1/c1+1/c2): z1=(b)*(z*z/(1/z+b)), z=1/(1/(z1+c1)+1/(z1+c2)), |z|<esc } -- Mike Frazier www.fracton.org

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by ton 01 Oct '17

01 Oct '17

Thanks Jonathan, Have a nice Day. Ton Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht -------- Van: Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)mediacombb.net> Datum: 01-10-17 15:51 (GMT+01:00) Aan: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Onderwerp: Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version Folks, I've updated the SDL port to support color cycling. The color editor still doesn't work. I added disk video modes for the largest sizes supported to the end of fractint.cfg. If you want to be able to run them more than once before having to restart Fractint, assign them to key codes (like AF6 & AF7). I am working on fixing this. https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-10- 01.zip or the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Re: [Fractint] 2017-09-10 update to SDL version
by Harold Lane 13 Sep '17

13 Sep '17

> ...you really do want to be able to stop [the disk's potentially long initialization process] if you decide you have made a mistake. That makes sense. > The code should send you back to the video mode selection screen, but doesn't. Right. It would really be "convenient" to have that happen as intended... > It is not that the text is too small. The logic mistakenly thinks it has a graphics screen instead of a text screen. I see. Oops. If the truth were to be known, I once had "mistaken logic." - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Osuch [mailto:osuchj@mediacombb.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 8:58 PM To: Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Fractint] 2017-09-10 update to SDL version > > Hal, > > I have yet to make it do anything sensible if the initialization is > > interrupted. > A couple of ideas re that: > - What does the DOS Fractint do in that situation? I will have to look. > - Could that section be made non-interruptible? If RAM is being used, it is. But, the RAM initialization is so fast, you don't notice it. For using the hard disk, you really do want to be able to stop it if you decide you have made a mistake. > - Would it be reasonable to have the initialization started again > from its beginning. (I've no idea if this is practical.) Ideally, yes. But currently what happens is that the image starts to generate. The code should send you back to the video mode selection screen, but doesn't. > > There are still some screen issues with switching disk video modes > Is this referring to the smaller screen sizes/video modes showing the > text almost too small to read? It is not that the text is too small. The logic mistakenly thinks it has a graphics screen instead of a text screen. Jonathan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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[Fwd: Re: 2017-09-10 update to SDL version]
by Jonathan Osuch 13 Sep '17

13 Sep '17

Hal, > > I have yet to make it do anything sensible if the initialization is > > interrupted. > A couple of ideas re that: > - What does the DOS Fractint do in that situation? I will have to look. > - Could that section be made non-interruptible? If RAM is being used, it is. But, the RAM initialization is so fast, you don't notice it. For using the hard disk, you really do want to be able to stop it if you decide you have made a mistake. > - Would it be reasonable to have the initialization started again > from its beginning. (I've no idea if this is practical.) Ideally, yes. But currently what happens is that the image starts to generate. The code should send you back to the video mode selection screen, but doesn't. > > There are still some screen issues with switching disk video modes > Is this referring to the smaller screen sizes/video modes showing the > text almost too small to read? It is not that the text is too small. The logic mistakenly thinks it has a graphics screen instead of a text screen. Jonathan

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2017-09-10 update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 11 Sep '17

11 Sep '17

Folks, The disk video mode works at up to 46340 X 46340. This is base on the file access routines (gcc) using a signed long variable to determine the location in a file. The maximum size of a signed long value is 2,147,483,647, and the square root of that is just over 46340. There are still some screen issues with switching disk video modes (especially large ones), and I have yet to make it do anything sensible if the initialization is interrupted. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 08 Sep '17

08 Sep '17

Tony, I had forgotten that there is a hard coded MAXPIXELS set at 32768. I think the only basis for it is that Tim thought it was suitably big. I'll have a look at it this weekend. Jonathan Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)mediacombb.net> Date: 9/7/17 6:38 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version Tony, > Any chance the current max render size of 32608,24456 might be > removed or > improved to allow for bigger sizes...? I'm hoping for at least 40k x > 30x > pixels, but even bigger would be great too - just for rendering L- > systems > as huge as possible... I would suggest trying it. The disk video size is currently limited to a total of 4,294,967,295 pixels (xdots X ydots). This is the limit for an unsigned long integer. The code should shift over to using the hard drive from using RAM at a size of 2,147,483,647 pixels, the maximum size of a signed long integer. 40,000 X 40,000 = 1,600,000,000 pixels, so it should still work in RAM. It may look like it has locked up as it tries to clear all this memory before it starts to calculate the image. The clearing memory message seems to disappear now, instead of staying on the screen. Jonathan _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by David Jones 08 Sep '17

08 Sep '17

On Sep 7, 2017 13:38, Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)mediacombb.net> wrote: > > Tony, > > > Any chance the current max render size of 32608,24456 might be > > removed or > > improved to allow for bigger sizes...? I'm hoping for at least 40k x > > 30x > > pixels, but even bigger would be great too - just for rendering L- > > systems > > as huge as possible... > > I would suggest trying it. The disk video size is currently limited to > a total of 4,294,967,295 pixels (xdots X ydots). This is the limit for > an unsigned long integer. The code should shift over to using the hard > drive from using RAM at a size of 2,147,483,647 pixels, the maximum > size of a signed long integer. 40,000 X 40,000 = 1,600,000,000 pixels, > so it should still work in RAM. It may look like it has locked up as > it tries to clear all this memory before it starts to calculate the > image. The clearing memory message seems to disappear now, instead of > staying on the screen. Wow - so Fractint SDL can generate GIGAPIXEL size fractals? Jonathan - I look forward to helping test when you have a Linux release. :) David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 07 Sep '17

07 Sep '17

Tony, > Any chance the current max render size of 32608,24456 might be > removed or > improved to allow for bigger sizes...? I'm hoping for at least 40k x > 30x > pixels, but even bigger would be great too - just for rendering L- > systems > as huge as possible... I would suggest trying it. The disk video size is currently limited to a total of 4,294,967,295 pixels (xdots X ydots). This is the limit for an unsigned long integer. The code should shift over to using the hard drive from using RAM at a size of 2,147,483,647 pixels, the maximum size of a signed long integer. 40,000 X 40,000 = 1,600,000,000 pixels, so it should still work in RAM. It may look like it has locked up as it tries to clear all this memory before it starts to calculate the image. The clearing memory message seems to disappear now, instead of staying on the screen. Jonathan

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Tony, Are you currently running L-systems at 32608 x 24456?
by Harold Lane 06 Sep '17

06 Sep '17

Tony, Are you currently running L-systems at 32608 x 24456 in Jonathan's SDL Fractint? - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hanmer Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:29 AM To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version Looking good! Any chance the current max render size of 32608,24456 might be removed or improved to allow for bigger sizes...? I'm hoping for at least 40k x 30x pixels, but even bigger would be great too - just for rendering L-systems as huge as possible... Tony Hanmer On 4 September 2017 at 02:54, Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > ------ Johnathan said: ------------- > Another update. This one fixes how the shift keys work (stops auto > repeating if held down too long) and cleans up the text in stop > messages > ----------------------------------------- > > Those both are fixed when I run your 09-03 alpha Fractint on my 64-bit > Win10 Dell. > > Thanks, Johnathan! > > - Hal Lane > > ######################## > # hallane(a)earthlink.net > ######################## > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf > Of Jonathan Osuch > Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 6:14 PM > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion < > fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version > > Folks, > > Another update. This one fixes how the shift keys work (stops auto > repeating if held down too long) and cleans up the text in stop > messages (for example, when you interrupt an image save). > > https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-09- > 03.zip > > or the directory: > > https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ > > Jonathan > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 06 Sep '17

06 Sep '17

Folks, Another update. This one fixes how the shift keys work (stops auto repeating if held down too long) and cleans up the text in stop messages (for example, when you interrupt an image save). https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha-2017-09- 03.zip or the directory: https://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 03 Sep '17

03 Sep '17

Harold, > My copy of your Fractint is in: > C:\FractSDL\2017-08-29 SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha\SDL2-fractint- > 20.05alpha-2017-08-29 The 'E' screen should work properly now (new file on website) from your directory. There is now a text cursor. GIFs now save all 256 colors instead of 16 colors. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 30 Aug '17

30 Aug '17

> Harold, > I note that your SDL Fractint looks for color maps (with the <E> > command) in the Fractint directory, rather than the \maps\ directory, > as DOS Fractint does. > However, it loaded several different 256-color color-maps I copied > into the main Fractint directory like a champ! Make sure the directory that you have Fractint in is NOT on the Desktop. I don't know why it causes a problem, but it does. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Tim, > I'm more or less home-bound because of Tracy here in Houston, but > (knock on > wood) high and dry with power and internet. We are housing some > friends who > were flooded out nearby. Despite near constant light rain, Braes > Bayou has > not gone up again so far. Currently it is right at the top of it's > channel. > We are up quite a bit from there, but Saturday morning to water had > crept > up our street to near our house. The storm is moving with (bad > metaphor > alert) glacial slowness. We are relieved to hear you are safe. Thanks for the update. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by David Jones 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

On Aug 29, 2017 03:14, Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net> wrote: > > David asked: > > But how could you have too much time on your hands right now?< > > Still raining in Houston more or less continuously, and not a good idea to > try and go anywhere. By the looks of it things will be better by Thursday. Sorry, forgot you were in Houston. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by David Jones 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

On Aug 28, 2017 13:54, Timothy Wegner wrote: > > Alex asked: > > Care to elaborate why Mercury is difficult to model? Is Mercury hard to > > model because of its proximity to an enormous gravitational mass? > > > > I think you have it right, close to the Sun. Explosions are constantly > happening on the sun, shooting matter up into space. Each time this happens > Mercury's orbit is perturbed. > > Tim Relativity also kicks in on Mercury's orbit due to being so deep in the sun's gravity well. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Timothy Wegner 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

I briefly tried Jonathan's latest sdl version ( http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/SDL2-fractint-20.05alpha.zip) including disk video and had no immediate troubles. Probably time to make a PAR file with a variety of things to test for regression purposes. Note that Jonathan has not been changing the file name when he re-uploads. I'm more or less home-bound because of Tracy here in Houston, but (knock on wood) high and dry with power and internet. We are housing some friends who were flooded out nearby. Despite near constant light rain, Braes Bayou has not gone up again so far. Currently it is right at the top of it's channel. We are up quite a bit from there, but Saturday morning to water had crept up our street to near our house. The storm is moving with (bad metaphor alert) glacial slowness. There probably plenty of tie-ins between Hurricane' and fractals. The connection on my mind right now has to do with the trials and tribulations of prediction. The NOAA does pretty well with some very sophisticated mathematical models, but is hard put to know even which direction the storm will go a few days ahead. Look a week ahead and chaos reigns. I was thinking of a similar theme during the eclipse when of course everyone was rightfully impressed with the ability to predict a eclipse within seconds. That ability is entirely conditioned by the short time frame. I am not sure how far out one has to go for the eclipse events to appear chaotic. I've seen estimates of 5 million years or so. In greater than 5 million years or so we have no idea when the eclipses will be, and the problem is not computation power, but rather the limit of precision of models of planetary bodies, especially Mercury. Tim On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)mediacombb.net> wrote: > Folks, > > > I've updated the experimental SDL version on the Developers > > website. It now runs a disk video mode, but only once, then it > > crashes. > > The disk video modes are now fixed and the file has been updated on the > website. > > Jonathan > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint >

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Predicting eclipses
by Timothy Wegner 28 Aug '17

28 Aug '17

This is what I get for hurriedly researching statements. I guessed a few thousand years might make solar eclipse prediction difficult. Then I did a quick search and saw the figure 5 million years. I didn't read far enough into the article, turns out that a few thousand years may be right. See: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/137350/how-far-ahead-can-we-pre… Tim

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Re: [Fractint] Update to SDL version
by Jonathan Osuch 27 Aug '17

27 Aug '17

Folks, > I've updated the experimental SDL version on the Developers > website. It now runs a disk video mode, but only once, then it > crashes. The disk video modes are now fixed and the file has been updated on the website. Jonathan

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Fractint build environment with XP under VirtualDisk
by Timothy Wegner 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

It's been quite a while since I had a build environment for the DOS fractint. My last one was lost when my oldest home-built PC running Windows XP died (though the disks are fine). So today I finally decided to do something about it. I'm not going to give all the steps because I doubt they apply to many (if any) of you, but if anyone is interested, ask. I still have my original Windows XP professional disc, as well as a service pack 2 slipstreamed copy I made many moons ago (and have forgotten how that was done) and a service pack 3 upgrade I downloaded. 1. I installed my Windows XP SP2 DVD into Oracle VirtualDisk under Windows 10. 2. I upgraded XP to Service Pack 3. 3. I validated the Windows XP copy with Microsoft even though I still had 30 days. Tedious but no problems, had to copy a lot of numbers. 4. I copied my c and assembler compiler directories c:\c700 and c:\masm611 from the dead machine hard drive. Thankfully there was no need to reinstall since the originals are on on zillions of floppies, and I don't even know if they are readable! 5. I set environment variables for INCLUDE, LIB, and PATH for both the C/C++ and MASM611 6. I copied the source files for fractint over, deleted any object code, created a DOS window, and inside the source directory invoked makefrac.bat. Voila! After about a minute, everything compiled, and the fractint.exe executable ran perfectly. All the VESA video support worked fine under VirtualDisk, even better than on the old dead XP machine. This is a terrific environment for maintaining the DOS Fractint. Flush with success, I tried the same thing on an older Windows 7 machine that has Microsoft's built in XP Mode. I could not get it to work for reasons I don't understand (makefrac.bat gave errors). I have limited scientific interest in that platform since I have virtual XP under Windows 10 working. Next step will be to get an SDL build environment working. Note that for different reasons than Jonathan, I too have limited hours to spend on fractint, so there's no telling when I'll get to this. Jonathan has a demanding job. I am happily retired, with a very full life. I guess that's a good thing. That said, the above steps rebuilding the DOS version build environment took the better part of a Saturday, and I have SDL on my mind, so will try to get to it. Tim

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint build environment with XP under VirtualDisk
by David Jones 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

On Aug 20, 2017 10:51, Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net> wrote: > > Albrecht wrote: > > > I have one problem though: > > The native reso of my Monitor/Tv is 1920/1080 which > > is also used by XP in fullscreen mode, but > > the Fractint font size is too small for reading from my ususl > > viewing distance. How can you increase it ?? > > > >> > > I see what you mean. One can set the font of the DOS window (right click on > top bar, properties), but Fractint takes it over when it runs. If anyone > knows the answer let us know. Didn't DOS have a "mode" command that set the text screen stuff like color/monochrome and number of rows/columns? Ah, yes: https://www.computerhope.com/modehlp.htm Maybe try running that with appropriate settings before running Fractint? David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Yikes! XP under VirtualBox just got 131 updates!
by Timothy Wegner 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

... to service pack three! So it must be XP gets updated to the point where updates stopped. And to answer a previous (related) question, when I built my various PCs, I would buy a discounted windows disc that says "To use with a new PC only". Microsoft seems not to mind reinstalling on new hardware if the old machine is dead and hasn't phoned home. I have done this various times with different versions of Windows. In any case I had to trouble installing XP in VirtualDisk using the old disc. I did have to phone, but never talked to a person. Just had to type all kinds of numbers. I will attempt to not post any more about XP :-) Tim

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Re: [Fractint] Can u run multiple copies of DOSbox (each w Fractint) simultaneously in Win10?
by Timothy Wegner 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hal, I am not sure if the setup really requires separate fractint directories as you suggest (and I guess I suggested), but it might. Running multiple DOSBox instances with fractint will take a little experimentation. Might also need separate DOSBox configuration files, I'm not sure. I think just an hour or two of experimentation could resolve this. And by the way, the main reason I recommend the svn version of DOSBox is that it has better VESA video support. Otherwise the regular DOSBox is fine. I have both on my system, and yesterday just quickly ran fractint in both (from one fractint directory). The main problem I had was the various DOSBoxs grabbing control of the mouse and keyboard. ctrl-alt-delete and then cancel restores control of keyboard and mouse to the main windows. As I said, experimentation is needed. I also want to spend a little time with the SDL Fractint. Tim On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Harold Lane <hallane(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > Hal asked if multiple dosboxes can be run under Windows. I believe the > answer is yes... > > I briefly experimented and could bring up multiple dosbox instances... > Thanks for checking on that, Tim. > > > ...work would be needed with separate configurations and separate > fractints. > I see that now. Yikes! > > So, perhaps multiple installs of Fractint in side-by-side directories. > E.g.: > /FrctintA/, /FrctintB/, /FrctintC/, /FrctintD/ , ... > Then all of Fractint's file allocations and configuration files would be > completely separate. I plan/hope to use modified versions of the > Fractint-created batch file to feed the Fractint-generated parameter files > to the separate instances of Fractint and assemble the calculated pieces of > the image. > > I'll keep my original Fractint directory to calculate the faster images, > and > to create the multiple parameter and batch files for the > simultaneously-running Fractints. > > If I can get it all working, it's not likely to be an especially clean or > elegant solution -- but I've always been irritated at having all those idle > CPU cores -- and idle RAM -- while running Fractint... > But, I'm encouraged to experiment with this a bit. > > Thanks again for checking on the multiple dosboxes, Tim. > > - Hal Lane > > ######################## > # hallane(a)earthlink.net > ######################## > >

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Re: [Fractint] Can u run multiple copies of DOSbox (each w Fractint) simultaneously in Win10?
by Timothy Wegner 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Hal asked if multiple dosboxes can be run under Windows. I believe the answer is yes, but some work would be needed with separate configurations and separate fractints. I briefly experimented and could bring up multiple dosbox instances, but there is more to it than that. Tim

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Can u run multiple copies of DOSbox (each w Fractint) simultaneously in Win10?
by Harold Lane 16 Aug '17

16 Aug '17

Can anyone tell me if multiple copies of DOSbox can be run under Win10 *simultaneously* -- each in its own copy of DOS Fractint -- (and each using a different CPU core!)? This could be a big "win," as many current computers have generous amounts of RAM and many CPU cores. Fractint also has a built-in capability for dividing an image into multiple parameter files in a highly automated way. I have another email about that coming soon. I'd also like to know if "DOSbox SVN Daum," that Tim recommends, can have multiple copies running simultaneously under Win10. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jason Hine Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:46 AM To: fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port Hooray! Ecstatic to see this port, even in alpha... much, much faster than running v20 in DosBox. Yes, I managed to make it crash three times in three minutes by trying out more esoteric video modes and doodads, but mandel at 1024x768x256 seems solid. Kudos and thanks to Jonathan, and I'd be interested to hear about any opportunities to collaborate (via Git, etc.) on further development of this port. - Jason H _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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] Splash2
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

Now, when "our beloved old Fractint" comes to new honors - Jonathan, keep my fingers crossed that you can save the time and energy to complete the task - I thought it´s a good Idea to present a new version of my Fractint Splash Screen. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGvme3Msj-XewXEKkR ; Greetings, Albrecht ; So here it is: ---------------------------start par--------------------------------------- splash-2 { ; Double Layer Image ; using Fractmask-08 ; for the letters reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=splash.frm formulaname=splash_1 ismand=y passes=1 center-mag=-1.37708/4.44089e-016/21.25417/1/-90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=-0.5/0.375/20/0.18/320/0/-100/100/40/10 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=200SSS<9>BBB999777<2>222000012<24>0bo0cq0es<3>0kz<25>09C08A068<2>\ 022000211<22>keOmgPoiQqjRslSunT<2>zsX<7>kfPidOgbNe`Mc_L<9>KIBIGAGF9<3>87\ 5654443221000400<23>o00q00s00<3>z00<25>C00A00800<3>000<23>eeegggiiijjjll\ lnnn<2>sss<14>UUU } FRM:splash_1 { ; Basic data : FractMask08 ; Albrecht Niekamp March,03 ; p1: Julia seed ; real (p2) : water level in % of the screen height ; imag (p2) : amplitude of the wave (try 0.2) ; real (p3) : frequency (try 300) ; imag (p3) : size y (>0 smaller -1 no text) ; real (p4) : horizontal factor ; imag (p4) : vertical factor ; real (p5) : size left (>0 smaller) ; imag (p6) : size right (>0 smaller) in=0 t=0 z=0 w=0 start=1 c=pixel if (whitesq) row=imag(scrnpix) rows=imag(scrnmax) y=row/(rows-1) col=real(scrnpix) cols=real(scrnmax) x=col/(cols-1) size=imag(p3)/1000 hf=real(p4)/100 vf=imag(p4)/1000 cl=real(p5)/100 cr=imag(p5)/100 tx=(imag(p3)!=-1) if (tx) xx=x yy=y f=1-y d=x-0.5 cr=cr+hf cl=cl+hf If (x>0.5) e=d*d-0.25 hd=-e*hf g=(0.25-e)/5 x=x+g*cr+((hf*0.005)*(hf<0)) else e=x*x-0.25 hd=e*hf*2 g=(0.25-e)/10 x=x-g*cl+((hf*0.01)*(hf<0)) endif d=1-xx if (y>0.5) if (xx>0.5) e=d*d b=f*(0.5-d)*vf*40*(0.25-e) else e=xx*xx b=f*(0.5-xx)*vf*40*(0.25-e) endif y=y+f*vf*1.6+size else if (xx>0.5) e=d*d b=-(f*(0.5-d)*vf*40*(0.25-e)) else e=xx*xx b=-(f*(0.5-xx)*vf*40*(0.25-e)) endif y=y-y*vf*1.6-size endif e=exp(hd) b=exp(b) in=in+(x>.06*e&&x<.92*e&&y<.693*b&&y>.68*b) in=in+(x>.07*e&&x<.13*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.613*b) in=in+(x>.19*e&&x<.25*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.613*b) in=in+(x>.32*e&&x<.41*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.6*b) in=in+(x>.45*e&&x<.5*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.613*b) in=in+(x>.56*e&&x<.6*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.6*b) in=in+(x>.63*e&&x<.69*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.613*b) in=in+(x>.7*e&&x<.75*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.613*b) in=in+(x>.76*e&&x<.81*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.613*b) in=in+(x>.85*e&&x<.89*e&&y<.626*b&&y>.6*b) in=in+(x>.08*e&&x<.12*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.2*e&&x<.24*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.31*e&&x<.32*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.48*b) in=in+(x>.44*e&&x<.47*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.49*e&&x<.51*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.586*b) in=in+(x>.55*e&&x<.56*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.346*b) in=in+(x>.6*e&&x<.61*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.52*b) in=in+(x>.64*e&&x<.68*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.71*e&&x<.75*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.76*e&&x<.8*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.84*e&&x<.85*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.346*b) in=in+(x>.89*e&&x<.9*e&&y<.613*b&&y>.52*b) in=in+(x>.32*e&&x<.35*e&&y<.6*b&&y>.573*b) in=in+(x>.36*e&&x<.42*e&&y<.6*b&&y>.586*b) in=in+(x>.56*e&&x<.59*e&&y<.6*b&&y>.306*b) in=in+(x>.61*e&&x<.62*e&&y<.6*b&&y>.52*b) in=in+(x>.85*e&&x<.88*e&&y<.6*b&&y>.306*b) in=in+(x>.9*e&&x<.91*e&&y<.6*b&&y>.52*b) in=in+(x>.36*e&&x<.4*e&&y<.586*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.5*e&&x<.51*e&&y<.586*b&&y>.572*b) in=in+(x>.32*e&&x<.34*e&&y<.573*b&&y>.466*b) in=in+(x>.43*e&&x<.44*e&&y<.573*b&&y>.413*b) in=in+(x>.14*e&&x<.15*e&&y<.52*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.34*e&&x<.35*e&&y<.52*b&&y>.466*b) in=in+(x>.13*e&&x<.14*e&&y<.493*b&&y>.4*b) in=in+(x>.35*e&&x<.36*e&&y<.48*b&&y>.453*b) in=in+(x>.12*e&&x<.13*e&&y<.466*b&&y>.426*b) in=in+(x>.5*e&&x<.51*e&&y<.412*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.25*e&&x<.28*e&&y<.44*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.31*e&&x<.35*e&&y<.44*b&&y>.386*b) in=in+(x>.28*e&&x<.29*e&&y<.426*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.24*e&&x<.25*e&&y<.413*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.49*e&&x<.5*e&&y<.413*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.16*e&&x<.18*e&&y<.4*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.32*e&&x<.34*e&&y<.386*b&&y>.373*b) in=in+(x>.48*e&&x<.49*e&&y<.386*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.75*e&&x<.76*e&&y<.386*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.19*e&&x<.2*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.33*e&&x<.39*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.45*e&&x<.48*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.54*e&&x<.55*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.59*e&&x<.62*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.63*e&&x<.64*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.7*e&&x<.71*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.76*e&&x<.79*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.83*e&&x<.84*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.88*e&&x<.91*e&&y<.373*b&&y>.36*b) in=in+(x>.15*e&&x<.16*e&&y<.346*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.14*e&&x<.15*e&&y<.306*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.57*e&&x<.59*e&&y<.306*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.64*e&&x<.68*e&&y<.306*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.86*e&&x<.88*e&&y<.306*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.07*e&&x<.08*e&&y<.28*b&&y>.266*b) in=in+(x>.12*e&&x<.14*e&&y<.28*b&&y>.266*b) endif if (in) w=1 z=(xx+yy/8)*689 else if (imag(p2)>0 && imag(p2)<=100) level=real(p2)/100 ; water level ampl=imag(p2) ; amplitude of the wave freq=real(p3) ; frequency angle=real(rotskew*pi/180) exp_irot=exp(-flip(angle)) h=1/real(magxmag) q=h/0.75*imag(magxmag) tanskew=tan(imag(rotskew*pi/180)) u=2*q*exp_irot v=2*h*(tanskew+flip(1))*exp_irot z3rd=center+(-q-h*tanskew-flip(h))*exp_irot z=pixel-z3rd s=imag(conj(u)*z)/imag(conj(u)*v) if (s<=level) dy=level-s z=z+2*dy*(1+ampl*sin(freq*dy^0.2))*v endif z=z+z3rd if (ismand) c=z z=0 else c=p1 endif endif endif endif : if (w) z=z-1 phc_bailout=|z|>=1 else z=z^2+c if (start) t=t+1 if (|z|>=128) u=2*(exp(t/768)) z=z^u start=0 endif if (t>513) u=2*(sin(t/768)) z=z*u c=p1*u start=0 endif endif phc_Bailout=|z|<=2048 endif phc_bailout } ----------------------------end-----------

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Windows SDL Port
by Jason Hine 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

Hooray! Ecstatic to see this port, even in alpha... much, much faster than running v20 in DosBox. Yes, I managed to make it crash three times in three minutes by trying out more esoteric video modes and doodads, but mandel at 1024x768x256 seems solid. Kudos and thanks to Jonathan, and I'd be interested to hear about any opportunities to collaborate (via Git, etc.) on further development of this port. - Jason H

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Lloyd sent me an email saying: "Please post to FractInt list - I still can't get in!"
by Harold Lane 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

Lloyd sent me an email saying: - Please post to FractInt list - I still can't get in! - Some initial images from [Albrecht's] TranceLuna to get you all started: They all appear to be based on Albrecht's recent nice TranceLuna image. Here are Lloyd's images: (Comments are mine, not Lloyd's) [For the concerned, the shortened URLs below all resolve to URLs like this on my personal server: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/LloydGarrick/X003.GIF I use a link shortening service to avoid email systems potentially chopping long URLs into pieces, as I'm sure you've seen happen.] http://tinyurl.com/LloydGarrick-X000-GIF (A smaller version of Albrecht's TranceLuna) http://tinyurl.com/LloydGarrick-X001-GIF (Strange pearl necklaces around a brown dwarf) http://tinyurl.com/LloydGarrick-X002-GIF (An amusement park ride going down a track through hoops going off into the distance) http://tinyurl.com/LloydGarrick-X003-GIF (An evil dinosaur's egg -- note the gray pentagram -- disguised as an Easter egg) Thanks for the images, Lloyd! - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Albrecht's TranceLuna image and parent image
by Harold Lane 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

Albrecht's recent images are now on my server: http://tinyurl.com/Albrechts-TranceLuna or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/MFR_14_2/35187-09%20TranceLuna.GIF and "an (almost) total view" -- parent fractal: http://tinyurl.com/Albrechts-Blue-and-Red or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/MFR_14_2/31587-03.GIF I really like your TranceLuna image, Albrecht! The Moon gently illuminates the flower-covered vine, which glows with an ethereal blue haze. Your image feels like a Seurat painting. - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Windows SDL Port
by Timothy Wegner 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding job and can only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't respond to feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want feedback. That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL (https://www.libsdl.org/) port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including Windows 10. This effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the SDL*.zip file, dump the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and run it. The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, e.g. Ubuntu Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. A couple of points. This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a normal windows application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS fractint, and is probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic version. This is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface features. This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things (probably a lot of things) don't. It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to give this a try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic testing (might be premature). Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing the results here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since Jonathan will only occasionally be able to chime in. Tim

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Fractint execution timing.
by John Wilson 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

What's a known execution timing for running a Fractint fractal? I'd like to know how my new system stacks up. Please? Installed Fractint in DOSBox on my brand new laptop, which is surprising me with its agility, under 64-bit Windows 7 Pro with a 500G SSD. I was particularly pleased to find that the touch pad does a fine job in moving fractal selections about... smoother than a mouse. My only problem is one which has been with me forever... can't set up PCTOOLS to put saved gifs into the correct directory. I have a mental block on that subject! John W.

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Re: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port
by Jonathan Osuch 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

Harold, > - On the "X" page, it was disconcerting to not see a cursor at "the > text > cursor position", altho I was able to change the 150 iterations to > 1500... The text cursor has to be implemented by software and, like a lot of other features, is not part of the SDL features. I have some thoughts and will work on it. > - "E" allows loading a different color map, instead of bringing up > the > outline of the enhanced / Extended(?) Color Editor. Color cycling/editing is something else that needs to be implemented in software. The maximum number of colors in an image is still currently limited to 256, despite what the video selection screen says. > Do you know whether Johnathan is soliciting/desires to get "bug > reports" > yet, and if so, where and how? (As you said, it may be too early for > these.) I am planning to put a bug list in the "New Features" help screen. Although, it will be more like a "What's Broken" list for a while. Jonathan

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Re: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port
by Jonathan Osuch 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

Tony, Disk video is broken. I will have a look at it. And, based on the size of the images you want to create, I'll need to modify it to be able to switch over from using memory to using the hard disk. Thanks for the feedback. Jonathan On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 09:47 +0400, Tony Hanmer wrote: > Thanks for asking, Tim! > > In the Fractint.cfg file, these modes cause an instant crash: > > SF9 ,256 color mode , 8, 1280, 1024,256, > CF2 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11,30000,22500,256,disk > CF3 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11,16304,12228,256,disk > CF4 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11,32608,24456,256,disk > CF5 ,Win32 Disk Video , 11, 3200, 2400,256,disk > > All but the first are ones I copied & pasted from other copies of the > file > which worked for me in other versions, especially but not only DOS > ones, > e.g. also WinFract versions. > > Thanks for any help you can offer, > > Tony > > On 12 August 2017 at 00:22, Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net> wrote: > > > > > Tony, could you provide me with details of examples that crash the > > SDL > > fractint? I can't tell from your report exactly what you were > > attempting. > > As simple an example as you can make would be useful. Is the > > problem mainly > > the video mode? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Tony Hanmer <a.hanmer(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Great to see! > > > Wanting to know how to add large disk render modes in > > > Fractint.cfg using > > > Notepad - I've cut & pasted some of my old ones from other DOS- > > > based > > > Fractints, but these cause the program to crash instantly, even > > > as small > > as > > > > > > 4000 by 3000 pixels, and I want to go as large as, say, 30000 by > > > 22500... > > > Help please? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tony Hanmer > > > Svaneti, Republic of Georgia > > > > > > On 7 August 2017 at 20:42, mchris(a)value.net - Webmail <mchris@val > > > ue.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Wow! This is pretty exciting for me. Have been wanting to dip > > > > my toe > > back > > > > > > > > > > > in but frankly time-slammed between work, getting my late > > > > parents' home > > > > ready for sale, and the upcoming eclipse. But I'll keep an eye > > > > on this > > > and > > > > > > > > probably check it out after the dust settles in a month or two > > > > on my > > Win > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > > > PC. > > > > > > > > Aloha, > > > > Bud > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim(a)tswegner.net> > > > > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" < > > > > fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:29:37 AM > > > > Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > > > > > > > > First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding > > > > job and > > can > > > > > > > > > > > only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't > > > > respond > > to > > > > > > > > > > > feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want > > > > feedback. > > > > > > > > That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL ( > > https://www.libsdl.org/) > > > > > > > > > > > port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including > > > > Windows 10. > > > This > > > > > > > > effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: > > > > http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the > > > > SDL*.zip file, > > > > dump > > > > the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and > > > > run it. > > > > > > > > The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, > > > > e.g. > > Ubuntu > > > > > > > > > > > Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. > > > > > > > > A couple of points. > > > > > > > > This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a > > > > normal > > > windows > > > > > > > > application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS > > > > fractint, and is > > > > probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic > > > > version. > > > This > > > > > > > > is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface > > > > features. > > > > > > > > This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things > > (probably > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > lot of things) don't. > > > > > > > > It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to > > > > give > > > this a > > > > > > > > try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic > > > > testing > > > > (might be premature). > > > > > > > > Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing > > > > the > > > results > > > > > > > > here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since > > > > Jonathan will > > > only > > > > > > > > occasionally be able to chime in. > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fractint mailing list > > > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fractint mailing list > > > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fractint mailing list > > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fractint mailing list > > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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TranceLuna
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 13 Aug '17

13 Aug '17

HI, after installing the Creator´s Upgrade I am now justifying that name and after a long time of silence present a new and unique image: TranceLuna. Frm and Par included for convenience. This is the link to my archives but not sure if it has survived - if not Hal possibly can assist and present the completed image - MFR frms do not work with Winfract. ; https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgk0ZUYt0OoehcWNb ; Cheers, Albrecht --------------------------------Start PAR---------------------------------- 35187-09 { ; TranceLuna reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_14.frm formulaname=mfr_14_2 function=ident/ident/log/cosxx passes=t center-mag=-1.41928/-9.44046/4.889893/1/77.5000000000000142/-3.778227730\ 67748585e-014 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/31587.64595761235/45235.4\ 9118567307/152048.0404808023/4.160489401271/23.00682000095/256.107680300\ 1/512.1076803001/768.1076803001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=00004C00Oa00xd0000000000A40000<6>00000000AM0000000000Op00000<4>00\ 0<2>0000An00HG00Kj0000<10>000<4>00000Gg00H800GF00Aq0000000000A100<3>0000\ 0000v000<2>00000D000<17>000<4>000cAAzcmwwwKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKccc\ KKKcccKKKcccKKKccc000KKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKK\ cccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKcccKKKKKK000<6>000<3>00000100MK00000<3>000\ 0G8000<2>000006G00000000B003z009N000000000 } FRM:mfr_14_2 {; Albrecht Niekamp Apr.01,2015 Manowar2 Update ;P1 : Julia-Manowar-(Lambda)-(Magnet)-(Phoenix) seed ;RP2 Left: 5 Digit_Channels: (1)shape (2)out (3)ins_1 (4)ins_2 (5)ins_3 ; Frm: 0_off 1_Secant 2_Mand(2) 3_Bees 4_Jul/Manowar 5_Mmods ; 6_Phoenix 7_Newton 8_Lambda/Magnet ; Right: 2 Digit_ManyMods_Number of sides 2 Digit_Phoen 2 Digit_Lambd ; 1 Digit_TransReset-Shape: 0_no 1_DblMan 2_Iter 3_both +5_nowarp ; 4 Digit_TransReset-Ch 2-5: 0_no 1_z 2_Iter 3_both +5_warp ;IP2 Left: 5 Digit_Bailout Number for Channels 1 to 5 ; Right: Variables: 4 Digit_Mand/Jul (2var) 2 Digit_Secant 4 Digit_Bees ;RP3 Left: 2 Digit_Newtonvariable 4 Digits_bailout1 ; Right: 4 Digit_bailout2 4 Digit_bailout3 1 Digit_Magnet ;IP3 Left: 4 Digit_Shape: Warp-factor (fn1 or fn4 is used) ; Right: 4 Dig_bailout4 4 Dig_bailout5 1 Dig_mow=2 1 Dig_mag=2 1 Dig_fns ;RP4 Left: 4 Digit_Outside: Warp-factor (fn2 used) ; Right: Outside: 4 Digit+fractdig_Border-out 4 Digit+fractdig_border-in ;IP4 Left: Inside1_Maxiter ; Right: Inside1_Transit: 1_maxit 2_borderout 3_borderin +5_maxit+bord ; 5 Digit_warp factor (fn2 used) 4 Digit+fractaldigit_border1 ;RP5 Left: Inside2_Maxiter ; Right: Inside2_Transit: 1_maxit 2_borderout 3_borderin +5_maxit+bord ; 5 Digit_warp factor (fn3 used) 4 Digit+fractaldigit_border2 ;IP5 Left: Inside3_Maxiter ; Right: Inside3_Transit: 1_maxit 2_borderout 3_borderin +5_maxit+bord ; 5 Digits_Warp factor (fn4 used) 4 Digit+fractaldigit_border3 ;Function: fn4_Manymods, fn3_Bees, fn2+fn3+fn4(virtual P1)_Lambda(fn) z=pixel da=real(p2) dd=trunc(da) tt=dd>0 da=trunc(((da-dd)*100000000000)+11111) dd=trunc(dd+11111) d=trunc(dd/10000) dd=dd-d*10000 d3=(d==4)+(d==5)+(d==8)+(d==9) d4=d3==0 vb=d>5 ex0=(d>1) sc=d==2 mo=d==6 po=d==7 ab=po+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=trunc(dd/1000) dd=dd-d*1000 ex1=(d>1) sc1=d==2 mo1=d==6 po1=d==7 lx1=d==5 v1m=mo1+po1 v1j=d>7 dd1=v1j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab1=po1+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=trunc(dd/100) dd=dd-d*100 ex2=(d>1) sc2=d==2 mo2=d==6 po2=d==7 lx2=d==5 v2m=mo2+po2 v2j=d>7 dd2=v2j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab2=po2+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=trunc(dd/10) dd=dd-d*10 ex3=(d>1) sc3=d==2 mo3=d==6 po3=d==7 lx3=d==5 v3m=mo3+po3 v3j=d>7 dd3=v3j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab3=po3+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) d=dd ex4=(d>1) sc4=d==2 mo4=d==6 po4=d==7 lx4=d==5 v4m=mo4+po4 v4j=d>7 dd4=v4j+(d==4)+(d==5) ab4=po4+(d==3)+(d==5)+(d==9) tt=ex1+ex0+ex2+ex3+ex4 ; mm=trunc(da/1000000000) da=da-mm*1000000000 ph=trunc(da/10000000) da=da-ph*10000000 px=trunc(da/100000) da=da-px*100000 d=trunc(da/10000) da=da-d*10000 wx=(d>4) d=d-5*wx dm=(d==2)+(d==4) ir0=(d==3)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/1000) da=da-d*1000 w1=d>4 d=d-5*w1 rs1=(d==2)+(d==4) ir1=(d==3)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/100) da=da-d*100 w2=d>4 d=d-5*w2 rs2=(d==2)+(d==4) ir2=(d==3)+(d==4) d=trunc(da/10) da=da-d*10 w3=d>4 d=d-5*w3 rs3=(d==2)+(d==4) ir3=(d==3)+(d==4) w4=da>4 da=da-5*w4 rs4=(da==2)+(da==3)+(da==4) if (ph==0) ph=p1 else ph=ph/10 endif w0=(wx==0) ; d=real(p3) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*10000000000) pp=trunc(dd/10000) ba1=dd-10000*pp ba2=trunc(da/1000000) da=da-1000000*ba2 ba3=trunc(da/100) da=da-100*ba3-4 mg=da/10 if (mg<1) mg=real(p1) endif ; d=imag(p3) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*100000000000) sfac=dd/1000000+(dd==0) ba4=trunc(da/10000000) da=da-ba4*10000000 ba5=trunc(da/1000) da=da-ba5*1000 d=trunc(da/100) mow=(d==2)+(d==3) mv=(d==3)+(da==4) da=da-d*100 d=trunc(da/10) mag=d==2 d=trunc(da-d*10) fdm=(d==4)+(d==7) fdb=(d==3)+(d==7) If (1<px) d=(trunc(px/10))/9 if (fdm) da=fn4(px-100*d) else da=exp(px-100*d) endif d=px/73,37 px=d+sqr(-da) else px=p1 endif ; d=real(p4) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*10000000000) ofac=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bh=trunc(da/100000)/10 bl=(da-bh*1000000)/10 bs=bl/2 ; d=imag(p2) dd=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-dd)*10000000000) d=trunc(dd/10000) dd=dd-d*10000 bb0=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=trunc(dd/1000) dd=dd-d*1000 bb1=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=trunc(dd/100) dd=dd-d*100 bb2=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=trunc(dd/10) dd=dd-d*10 bb3=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) d=dd bb4=ba1*(d==1)+ba2*(d==2)+ba3*(d==3)+ba4*(d==4)+ba5*(d==5) ; d=da p0=trunc(d/100000000)/10 d=d-p0*1000000000 p6=trunc(d/1000000)/10 d=d-p6*10000000 p7=trunc(d/10000)/10 d=d-p7*100000 dp=p6+p0/100 p8=trunc(d/100)/100 d=d-p8*10000 p9=d/100 ; d=imag(p4) mi1=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-mi1)*100000000000) d=trunc(da/10000000000) bt1=d>6 da=da-d*10000000000 d=d-5*bt1 dt1=d>1 iv1=d==3 dd=trunc(da/100000) da=da-dd*100000 fac1=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bo1=(da/100000)/10 ; d=real(p5) mi2=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-mi2)*100000000000) d=trunc(da/10000000000) bt2=d>6 da=da-d*10000000000 d=d-5*bt2 dt2=d>1 iv2=d==3 dd=trunc(da/100000) da=da-dd*100000 fac2=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bo2=(da/100000)/10 ; d=imag(p5) mi3=trunc(d) da=trunc((d-mi3)*100000000000) d=trunc(da/10000000000) bt3=d>6 da=da-d*10000000000 d=d-5*bt3 dt3=d>1 iv3=(d==3) dd=trunc(da/100000) da=da-dd*100000 fac3=dd/1000000+(dd==0) bo3=(da/100000)/10 ; if (vb) if (d3) if (ab) if (mag) c=z z=pixel mg=mg+(mg==0)*3 ;magnet x=mg else z=pixel ;lambdafn x=((1,0.4)*(|px|<=0)+px) m=(64*(real(bb0)<=0)+real(bb0)*(0<bb0)) endif else c=z z=pixel ;newton endif elseif (ab) c=z ;Phoenix z=pixel else c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) z=0 ;many mods endif elseif (d3) if (ab) if (mv) ;manowar+Julia bb0=(4*(real(p1)<=0)+real(p1)*(0<p1) ) if (lx1) bb1=bb0 elseif (lx2) bb2=bb0 elseif (lx3) bb3=bb0 elseif (lx4) bb4=bb0 endif endif c=p1 z=pixel else ;bees c=p1 z=pixel endif elseif (ab) c=z ;Mandel z=0 else c=z ;Secant z=pixel endif t=0 bo=|z| p=pp z0=p7 zold=(0.0,0.0) cb=p9 ba=bb0 : if (tt>0) t=t+1 if (ex0) ex0=t<mi1 if (bo>bs) u0=fn1(t*sfac) if (w0) u=u0 else u=1.0 endif ex0=0 if (ir0) t=0 endif if (d3) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else z=z*u if (mo) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) else c=pixel endif tt=tt-1+ex0 endif endif elseif ((ex1)&&bo>bl) if (bo<bh) d3=dd1 ba=bb1 ab=ab1 ex1=0 tt=tt-1 if (w1) u=fn2(t*ofac) else u=1.0 endif if (ir1) t=0 endif if (d3) vb=v1j if (rs1) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else z=z*u cb=p9 endif else vb=v1m if (rs1) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc1+po1) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif if (mo1) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif elseif (ex2) if (dt1) if (iv1) d=bo>bo1 else d=bo<bo1 endif if (bt1) d=d+(t>mi1) endif else d=t>mi1 endif if (d) ab=ab2 d3=dd2 ba=bb2 ex2=0 tt=tt-1 if (w2) u=fn2(t*fac1) else u=1.0 endif if (ir2) t=0 endif if (d3) vb=v2j if (rs2) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else cb=p9 z=z*u endif else vb=v2m if (rs2) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc2+po2) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif if (mo2) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif elseif (ex3) if (dt2) if (iv2) d=bo>bo2 else d=bo<bo2 endif if (bt2) d=d+(t>mi2) endif else d=t>mi2 endif if (d) ab=ab3 d3=dd3 ba=bb3 ex3=0 tt=tt-1 if (w3) u=fn3(t*fac2) else u=1.0 endif if (ir3) t=0 endif if (d3) vb=v3j if (rs3) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else cb=p9 z=z*u endif else vb=v3m if (rs3) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc3+po3) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif vb=v3m if (mo3) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif elseif (ex4) if (dt3) if (iv3) d=bo>bo3 else d=bo<bo3 endif if (bt3) d=d+(t>mi3) endif else d=t>mi3 endif if (d) ab=ab4 d3=dd4 ba=bb4 ex4=0 tt=0 if (w4) u=fn4(t*fac3) else u=1.0 endif if (d3) vb=v4j if (rs4) z=pixel cb=p9*u x=x*u p=pp*u else cb=p9 z=z*u endif else vb=v4m if (rs4) c=z*u z=pixel*(sc4+po4) z0=p7*u ph=ph*u else c=z z=z*u endif if (mo4) c=0.4*log(sqr(z^mm)) endif endif endif endif endif if (vb) if (d3) if (ab) if (mag) ;magnet z=((z^x+c-1)/(2*z+c-2))^(x-1) else if (fdb) z=exp(z)*fn3(x) else z=exp(z)*sin(x) ;Lambdafn endif abs(imag(z))<=x && abs(real(z))<=m endif else z1=z^p-1 ;newton z2=p*z*z z=z-z1/z2 endif elseif (ab) z1=z*z+0.56+ph/100-0.5*zold zold=z ;Phoenix z=z1 else if (fdm) Z2=fn4(z)+c else z2=sin(z)+c ;Many_mods endif z1=cos(z2) z=c*(1-z1)/(1+z1) endif elseif (d3) if (ab) if (mow) z1=z ;manowar oldz=z z=sqr(oldz)+z1+c z1=oldz else ;Julia z2=z*z z=z2*z2+p6*z2+c-p0 endif else if (fdb) z1=fn3(z)-cb else z1=sin(z)-cb ;Bees endif z2=z1^p8-1 z3=p8*(z1^(p8-1)) z=z-(z2/z3) endif elseif (ab) if (dm) z=z*z+c+c*c-dp ;Double Mandel else z2=z*z ;Mandel z=z2*z2+p6*z2+c-p0 endif else z3=z ;Secant z1=z0*z0*z0*z0-1 z2=z*z*z*z-1 z=z-z2*(z-z0)/(z2-z1) z0=z3 endif bo=|z| bo<ba }

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Win10 Creators Upgrade
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

If you have installed it you will notice that the Oracle Virtual Box does not work anymore. But there is good news: Oracle has already published an update VirtualBox-5.1.27-117332-Win a socalled "Test" Verison, works perfectly and Fractint - including all Keystrokes - is faster than my previously used XP Computer. Cheers, Albrecht

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THIS FRACTINT OPERATING IN MY WINDOS -10 64 BITS, HURRAH !!!!
by marcusadriana＠mls.com.br 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Thanks Jonathan: I'm now back to my long missing Fractint. It worked perfectly in choosing the fractals, colors, but I'm still testing all its other potencialities. Marcus tIM: Citando fractint-request(a)mailman.xmission.com: > Send Fractint mailing list submissions to > fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fractint-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fractint-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fractint digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Windows SDL Port (Timothy Wegner) > 2. Re: Windows SDL Port (mchris(a)value.net - Webmail) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:29:37 -0500 > From: Timothy Wegner <tim(a)tswegner.net> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > Message-ID: > <CAFLr277cNLr81UdFyWt+mVQV61KbF_6MWVy0L53beF4f5a8GuA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding job and can > only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't respond to > feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want feedback. > > That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL (https://www.libsdl.org/) > port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including Windows 10. This > effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: > http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the SDL*.zip file, dump > the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and run it. > > The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, e.g. Ubuntu > Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. > > A couple of points. > > This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a normal windows > application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS fractint, and is > probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic version. This > is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface features. > > This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things (probably a > lot of things) don't. > > It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to give this a > try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic testing > (might be premature). > > Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing the results > here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since Jonathan will only > occasionally be able to chime in. > > Tim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:42:45 -0400 (EDT) > From: "mchris(a)value.net - Webmail" <mchris(a)value.net> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > Message-ID: > <2141376961.175806994.1502124165213.JavaMail.zimbra(a)value.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Wow! This is pretty exciting for me. Have been wanting to dip my toe > back in but frankly time-slammed between work, getting my late > parents' home ready for sale, and the upcoming eclipse. But I'll keep > an eye on this and probably check it out after the dust settles in a > month or two on my Win 10 PC. > > Aloha, > Bud > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim(a)tswegner.net> > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:29:37 AM > Subject: [Fractint] Windows SDL Port > > First a huge disclaimer - Jonathan Osuch has a very demanding job and can > only work on fractint a few hours a week, if that. So he can't respond to > feedback in a timely way. This is not to say he doesn't want feedback. > > That said, Jonathan has been working on an SDL (https://www.libsdl.org/) > port of fractint that runs natively on Windows, including Windows 10. This > effort is hiding in plain site on the website here: > http://fractint.net/ftp/experimental/ Just download the SDL*.zip file, dump > the contents somewhere, navigate to the fractint.exe file, and run it. > > The SDL port can potentially be compiled on other platforms, e.g. Ubuntu > Linux, but Jonathan doesn't have that working yet. > > A couple of points. > > This is a literal port of the classical DOS fractint, not a normal windows > application. So the interface looks a lot like the DOS fractint, and is > probably hard to use if you are not familiar with the classic version. This > is not even a winfract port, which has some windows interface features. > > This is alpha quality. An amazing amount works but some things (probably a > lot of things) don't. > > It would be interesting for some of you DOS fractint experts to give this a > try. If it seems promising, you might consider some systematic testing > (might be premature). > > Since the list is quiet these days, I see no harm in discussing the results > here. Probably you folks can help each other out, since Jonathan will only > occasionally be able to chime in. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Fractint Digest, Vol 173, Issue 2 > **************************************** >

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint execution timing.
by David Jones 30 Jul '17

30 Jul '17

You're welcome! I think the 2048x2048 is a disk video mode accessible from the Fractint list of video modes. Alt-shift-F6, IIRC. Doesn't depend on display resolution. Mine's only 1920x1080. (Oh for a lovely 4K display!) On Jul 29, 2017 05:31, John Wilson <1stdiscus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you David. I just tried your reference fractal,(the marksjulia) and > got an identical time to yours... 1m 03.16 secs, actually. Seems I'm in > the ballpark. The closest size I have to your disk video is > 1920x1440x256, which rendered in 17m 08.15. > My display is only 1366x768 however. > > On 29 July 2017 at 01:04, david <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote: > > > On 07/28/2017 01:50 PM, John Wilson wrote: > > > >> What's a known execution timing for running a Fractint fractal? I'd like > >> to know how my new system stacks up. Please? > >> > >> Installed Fractint in DOSBox on my brand new laptop, which is surprising > >> me > >> with its agility, under 64-bit Windows 7 Pro with a 500G SSD. I was > >> particularly pleased to find that the touch pad does a fine job in moving > >> fractal selections about... smoother than a mouse. My only problem is one > >> which has been with me forever... can't set up PCTOOLS to put saved gifs > >> into the correct directory. I have a mental block on that subject! > >> > > > > Hmm, maybe just pick one or more of the standard included fractals at some > > specific image resolution and note the Calculation Time shown time after > > it's generated? (Press TAB after it's complete to see the info.) > > > > I just ran the marksjulia with default values at 1280x1024x256 colors > > under DOSBox 0.74 on 64bit Debian Linux and Fractint reports it took > > 1m3.22s. I have a 2.4GHz i7 (4 cores, 8 with hyperthreading) laptop, 16GB > > RAM, 500GB SSD. > > > > Just for fun, I generated the same fractal in 2048x2048 disk-video mode > > while doing other things on the puter. It took 26m44.26s. > > > > For comparison, XFractint 20.04.10 (native Linux Fractint) rendered the > > marksjulia at 1920x1026x256 in .17 seconds. But it used floating point. > > > > I don't know how to make XFractint render images to disk video. Starting > > it with the "-disk" option still leaves the image size restricted to the > > size of the XFractint window. Specifying geometry of 2048x2048 gave me a > > big window, but the disk rendering still showed only 1920x1026 image size. > > :( David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com

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VirtualBox version of FreeDos with Fractint
by Harold Lane 12 Jun '17

12 Jun '17

David, Many thanks for your links to the VirtualBox version of FreeDos with Fractint included/embedded! I'm going to give this a try on my Win 10 computer. You said: "it's isolated from the rest of your system." I have a question: If Fractint writes its images to an isolated virtual hard drive, what methods can one use to get the Images from there to the Windows environment in order to share? - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## -----Original Message----- From: Fractint [mailto:fractint-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David W Riccio Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:09 PM To: fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Fractint] JunoCam fractal video There is a VirtualBox version on https://fractint.net/ that works on Windows 10 (any Op Sys that will run VirtualBox) It is running in FreeDOS in a VM so it isolated from the rest of your system. Look at this link https://fractint.net/ftp/virtual_environments/ On 06/09/2017 03:56 PM, mchris(a)value.net - Webmail wrote: > Cool! > > My apologies, I've been in lurk mode for a while, not paying attention to any relevant posts on the subject. > > I bought a new computer last year, and want to get back into fractals. In there a version of Fractint that will run on Windoze 10, and if so where can I get it? I've been to the Fractint page: > > http://www.nahee.com/spanky/www/fractint/fractint.html > > It looks pretty dated. I've seen links for Windoze versions through third party sites, but hesitate to go that route. Want to get the latest/greatest. > > Aloha, > Bud > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Wegner" <tim(a)tswegner.net> > To: "Fractint and General Fractals Discussion" > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:39:08 PM > Subject: [Fractint] JunoCam fractal video > > Watch this full screen with the sound turned to maximum so as to enjoy > the sountrack excerpt from "2001: A Space Odyssey". Video by Gerald > Eichstädt reconstructed from JunoCam Images and SPICE Data and Seán > Doran who post-processed the original version, and added the sound track. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQbTBt418o&feature=youtu.be > > Youtube links are a little tricky, if I messed up try searching in > youtube for "Juno Perijove 06" > > A fine example of fractals in the natural world. > > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint -- -David Lemon Creek Digital www.lemoncreekdigital.com _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Fraqcel ~ A fractal explorer for MS Excel -- astounding, if not a hoax
by Harold Lane 12 Jun '17

12 Jun '17

I chanced across something astounding -- if it's not a hoax: "Fraqcel ~ A fractal explorer for MS Excel" http://tinyurl.com/Excel-fractal-explorer or: http://www.fractalforums.com/announcements-and-news/fraqcel-~-a-fractal-expl orer-for-ms-excel/ "VBA code is embedded into the Excel workbook and compiled at runtime" - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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DOSBox is another approach
by Timothy Wegner 12 Jun '17

12 Jun '17

I wouldn't want to discourage any of the discussions here about how to run Fractint under a modern OS, in fact I'd like to encourage them. Some folks have invested quality and skilled time with amazing technical experimentation. Just to say that the easiest way to run the DOS fractint on just about any platform under the sun is to use DOSBox. For the supported platforms see: https://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1. One caveat with DOSBox or any of the other methods is video mode support. To get the most out of fractint, the environment needs to have high resolution VESA video modes (if not using disk video). For this reason I prefer the so-called DOSBox svn builds (based on the svn source code, but with extensions), in particular the ones at http://ykhwong.x-y.net/, because they have better video support than the stock DOSBox I have even installed DOSBox on my Android phone and run Fractint, that that that arrangement is very usable (I had to install a different keyboard to get anything to work). I know we have touched on this subject before. Not bad that we are revisiting it again now. I'll be interested to see what folks come up with. Tim

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JunoCam fractal video
by Timothy Wegner 10 Jun '17

10 Jun '17

Watch this full screen with the sound turned to maximum so as to enjoy the sountrack excerpt from "2001: A Space Odyssey". Video by Gerald Eichstädt reconstructed from JunoCam Images and SPICE Data and Seán Doran who post-processed the original version, and added the sound track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQbTBt418o&feature=youtu.be Youtube links are a little tricky, if I messed up try searching in youtube for "Juno Perijove 06" A fine example of fractals in the natural world. Tim

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More fractal variations on Albrecht's 2017-04-22 fractal
by Harold Lane 24 Apr '17

24 Apr '17

I'm behind! Albrecht has already posted his "combination of fractal and abstract art": "Destruction" AND his very first multifractal image, but I'm still looking around inside the image he posted on 2017-04-22 ! Note that I'm just looking around his fractal & don't really want to declare anything that I've found as artistic. Please view images full size: Parent fractal: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422Z.gif An M-set with the main bay filled, but higher order buds not filled in: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422Y.gif At the junction between the main bay and the leftmost bud (rotated 90 degrees): http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422X.gif Zoom into the centerline of X: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422W.gif W Rotated, could almost pass for a variation of an M-set: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422V.gif A brass marvel inside the main bay adjacent to the tip of the Elephant Valley: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422T.gif Zooming into the Elephant Valley: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422S.gif This Mandeloid feature, approximately midway along the top edge of Elephant Valley in S, has quite a variety of fractal features produced by Albrecht's formula: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422R.gif About 45 degrees clockwise around the perimeter of the main bud in R is this (rotated) area -- again showing tremendous variety: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422Q.gif I saw an anomalous tiny green spot at center right in Q and enlarged it to see it better. The spot turned out to not be too interesting -- except as being out of place among the other kinds of features in the area: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422P.gif This is likely to be somewhere in Q, but possibly rotated: For some reason, I like those endless striped blobs, "grabbing their neighbor's tail" going off into the distance. The lower left corner reminded me of the chambers in a nautilus shell. http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422N.gif The anomalously bright single pixels in N are dimmed by antialiasing the image X5: *Must* be viewed at full size to see the faint circular structures in the spider-webby areas to the left of the collection of black spots near the center: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422L.jpg - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Multifractal Archive
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 24 Apr '17

24 Apr '17

My dear friends from Microsoft have deleted my account and erased the complete archives. Thank you,Bill Gates! So that´s all from me Albrecht

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Re: [Fractint] You know what I would like...
by David Jones 24 Apr '17

24 Apr '17

I'd prefer an Android version, myself. ;) IIRC, someone on the list had DOS Fractint running on a tablet(?) via a DOS emulator. I'd think it be doable on a phone. That probably wouldn't meet Apple design guidelines, tho. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com On Apr 23, 2017 08:22, Jovan Trujillo <jovan.trujillo3(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Fractint for my iPhone! > > Sent from my iPhone

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The very first multifractal image
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 23 Apr '17

23 Apr '17

This is a premiere. The very first multifractal image published. I have never seen the PV before myself - impressive! Two color maps to choose: Albrecht Map, my standard and a favorite by Jim Muth, 3 guesses which is the better one. For any further images copy the FRM file from my archives completely into your Fractint folder and delete double entries. Hal, the number of possible zooms is endless - curious what you will find! Using the smaller original link today. if it does not work, take yesterday´s and tell me. MultifracArchive\new\MFR-03 and MFR-04 https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgk0ZUYt0OoehcWNb ; Albrecht ------------------------Start Par-------------------------------------- MFR_04 { ; The very First ; Multifractal Image ; Jim Muth Color Map ; PV is a circular Image of many ; Circles with identical Parts each ; April23 /2017 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr.frm formulaname=multifractal_ni ismand=y function=exp/exp/exp passes=t center-mag=-0.14119325510332830/-0.17206413740747990/180.2205/1/40.00000\ 00000610711/9.54551923615376552e-011 params=-0.8940855128635518/0.8105868709372235/384.00001/256.1133/4094.00\ 016/768.0003400000001/768.0076800000001/256.01024/18937.52/5 float=y maxiter=3072 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 sound=off colors=000Mmz<13>KmzKmzKmz<3>Kmz000MWI<3>mcDseCn`B<3>XH7TC6O75K24<2>ZLP0\ 008UZ<3>8FL8CIDCH<3>XCAaB9fB7<3>zA0<13>SA1QA1NA1<3>D92<6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI\ <3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJoSFlWAi_5fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0wg0zU0AzGBSHBmHBzzzz0\ BPH<15>DEJEDJECJ<3>E9JD8IE9J<5>EBLEBLEBM<3>FCNzDzFDO<49>JSeJSfJTf<3>KUhK\ Um<3>KVmKWw<3>KXwKcz<8>LczLczLcz<3>MczMmz<6>MmzNmz<6>Mmz } FRM:Multifractal_ni { ; Albrecht Niekamp 24.03.2003 d=real(p2) fac1=trunc(d) b1=(d-fac1)*100000 ; d=imag(p2) da=d<0 if (da) d=-d endif mi1=trunc(d) d=round((d-mi1)*10000) p6=trunc(d/100)/10 d=d-1000*p6 if (da) p6=-p6 endif p7=d/10 ; d=real(p3) ba=trunc(d) mm=round((d-ba)*100000) ; d=imag(p3) fac2=trunc(d) b2=(d-fac2)*100000 ; d=real(p4) mi2=trunc(d) fac3=round((d-mi2)*100000) ; d=imag(p4) b3=trunc(d) mi3=round((d-b3)*100000) ; da=real(p5) t=da<0 if (t) da=-da endif start=2-t dd=trunc(da) da=round((da-dd)*100) if (dd<5) start=0 vb=(dd==3)+(dd==4) else d=trunc(dd/10000) vb=(d==3)+(d==4) dd=dd-d*10000 d=trunc(dd/1000) or1=d>5 d=d-5*or1 vv1=(d==3) vv2=(d==4) dd1=(d==2)+(d==4) dd=dd-d*1000 d=trunc(dd/100) or2=d>5 d=d-5*or2 vv3=(d==3) vv4=(d==4) dd2=(d==2)+(d==4) dd=dd-d*100 d=trunc(dd/10) inr1=d>5 d=d-5*inr1 v1=(d==3) v2=(d==4) d1=(d==2)+(d==4) dd=dd-10*d d=trunc(dd) inr2=d>5 d=d-5*inr2 v3=(d==3) v4=(d==4) d2=(d==2)+(d==4) endif ; d=trunc(da/10) da=da-10*d ab=d>=5 d=d-5*ab bb1=(d==1) bb2=(d==2) dd=da>=5 da=da-5*dd ab=ab+dd ab1=(da==1) ab2=(da==2) ; d=imag(p5) dd=trunc(d) d=round((d-dd)*1000000) le=d>10000 da=trunc(dd/10) so1=((da==1)+(da==3)==0) so2=((da==2)+(da==3)==0) dd=dd-10*da wo=dd>=5 dd=dd-5*wo ir1=(dd==1)+(dd==3) ir2=(dd==2)+(dd==3) if (le) freq=round((trunc(d/10000))*10) ;frequ_lake effect by S.Gallet d=d-freq*1000 level=(trunc(d/100))/100 ;water level d=d-level*10000 ampl=d/100 ;amplitude of the wave u=real(rotskew*pi/180) t=exp(-flip(u)) bo=1/real(magxmag) q=bo/0.75*imag(magxmag) dd=tan(imag(rotskew*pi/180)) d3=2*q*t rs=2*bo*(dd+flip(1))*t z2=center+(-q-bo*dd-flip(bo))*t z=pixel-z2 d=imag(conj(d3)*z)/imag(conj(d3)*rs) if (d<=level) da=level-d z=z+2*da*(1+ampl*sin(freq*da^0.2))*rs endif z=z+z2 endif if (ismand) if (vb) c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) z=z*le else c=z*le+pixel*(le==0) z=0 endif else c=p1 z=z*le+pixel*(le==0) endif t=0 d3=(ismand==0) u=d3 : if (vb) if (d3) z=(z*z-real(c))^(z*u+imag(c)) else z2=fn1(z)+c ;Linda Allison q=cos(z2) z=c*(1-q)/(1+q) endif elseif (ab) z=z*z+c+c*c-p7 ;Pusk s Istv n elseif (d3) z2=z*z z=z2*z2+(p6+u)*z2+c else z2=z*z ;Pusk s Istv n z=z2*z2+(p6+u)*z2+c-p1 endif bo=|z| If (wo) t=t+1 if ((t<mi1)+(bo>b1)) u=2*(fn1(t/fac1)) if (ismand) z=z*u if (vb) c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) else c=z*le+pixel*(le==0) endif else z=z*le+pixel*(le==0) c=p1*u endif wo=0 if (ir1) t=0 endif endif elseif (start) t=t+1 if (start==2) if (bo>b2) u=2*(fn2(t/fac2)) rs=or1 ab=bb1 if (dd1) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=vv2 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=vv1 if (vb) if (so1) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif start=1 endif elseif (t>mi2) u=2*(fn2(t/fac2)) rs=inr1 ab=ab1 if (d1) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=v2 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=v1 if (vb) if (so1) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif endif start=1 if (ir2) t=0 endif endif elseif (bo>b3) u=2*(fn3(t/fac3)) ab=bb2 rs=or2 if (dd2) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=vv4 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=vv3 if (vb) if (so2) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif start=0 endif elseif (t>mi3) u=2*(fn3(t/fac3)) ab=ab2 rs=inr2 if (d2) if (rs) z=pixel endif c=p1*u vb=v4 d3=vb else d3=0 z=z*u c=z if (rs) z=0 endif vb=v3 if (vb) if (so2) mm=mm+mm endif c=0.4*log(sqr(pixel^mm)) endif endif start=0 endif endif bo<=ba }

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You know what I would like...
by Jovan Trujillo 23 Apr '17

23 Apr '17

Fractint for my iPhone! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2017, at 6:20 AM, fractint-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send Fractint mailing list submissions to > fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fractint-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fractint-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fractint digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New Image (Multifrac(a)t-online.de) > 2. Re; New Image (Multifrac(a)t-online.de) > 3. Re: New Image (Harold Lane) > 4. New Image "Destruction" (Multifrac(a)t-online.de) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:11:19 +0200 > From: "Multifrac(a)t-online.de" <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Fractint] New Image > Message-ID: <b5b0ddda-b5f0-bbb4-bcef-434a41823c30(a)t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > A new interesting image today, created with the Oracle VirtualXP > under Win10. > Link: > https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%2… > Cheers > Albrecht > > ----------------------------------------Start par-------------------------- > ML219-x3 { ; Dated Apr22-2017 > ; Created with XPDOS > ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 > reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi5.frm > formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp passes=t > center-mag=-0.743737/2.22045e-016/20.64092/1/-90/-1.23373533611470521e-0\ > 14 params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y maxiter=2048 > inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off > colors=000<2>110110000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0\ > F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<\ > 4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16\ >> kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<43>000<4>000330<12>110 > } > FRM:Multifrac_219c { > fac=real(p1) > bailout=imag(p1) > border=real(p2) > out=imag(p2) > z=0 > t=0 > start=1 > c=pixel > : > if (start) > z=z^2+c > t=t+1 > if (|z|>=border) > u=2*(fn1(t/fac)) > z=z^u > start=0 > endif > if (t>out) > u=2*(fn2(t/fac)) > z=z/u > c=p3/u > start=0 > endif > else > z=z^z+c > endif > |z|<=bailout > } > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:45:04 +0200 > From: "Multifrac(a)t-online.de" <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Fractint] Re; New Image > Message-ID: <f4fe302f-4d73-15e8-ae4b-9d530658de46(a)t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hal, check image ML219-x7, an additional entry (zoom) > There are some discoveries waiting! > Albrecht > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 02:05:55 -0400 > From: "Harold Lane" <hallane(a)earthlink.net> > To: "'Fractint and General Fractals Discussion'" > <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com>, <Multifrac(a)t-online.de>, "'Frazier, > Mike_Fractint'" <fractonorg(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Fractint] New Image > Message-ID: <003801d2bbf7$ab974720$02c5d560$(a)earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've done some investigations of Albrecht's: >> ...new interesting image today [2017/4/22], created with the Oracle > VirtualXP under Win10. > > The color specification of Albrecht's included parm file somehow picked up > an extra character and could not be read by Fractint, since it had become > malformed. I downloaded his image and wrote out its parameter file with > Fractint's <b> command to get the correct color info. > > Albrecht's parms and formula, along with the parms of my variations are > below my signature. > > > Please view images full size. > > Albrecht's image: > http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/ML219-X3.GIF > > and my version of it (ML219-x3_FixColors), match -- except for slightly > different choices of our images' sizes in pixels. > www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A1704223.gif > > > He also recommends: >> ...check image ML219-x7, an additional entry (zoom) There are some > discoveries waiting! > > My rendering of ML219-x7 matches his version: > http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A1704227.gif > > I was immediately drawn to the center of the above image. What's there? > This is: > http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A1704228.gif > > But the empty core of the above image was a bit unsatisfying, so I tried > rotating the color map to see if anything would show up. Indeed, something > does! And Albrecht's nice greens that seem to go well with the purples both > reappear -- along with a slightly under-iterated minibrot: > http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A1704229.gif > > I liked the depth in the green "pillars" of the above image so I zoomed in > to emphasize them, and anti-aliased (X5) this image: > http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170422A.jpg > I tried increasing the maximum iteration count to further define the > minibrot, but I discovered that the color map is sensitive to the non-zero > LogMap value of this image, which changed the image radically. > > - Hal Lane > > ######################## > # hallane(a)earthlink.net > ######################## > > ======= Albrecht's and my parms -- and his formula for 2017-04-22: ====== > > comment > { > Sat 4/22/2017 2:11 PM > A new interesting image today, created with the Oracle VirtualXP under > Win10. > Link: > https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%21 > 333&cid=461164FB9B029865 > [ OneDrive > MultifracArchive > New > NewGif > ML219-X3.GIF ] > Cheers > Albrecht > -------------------- > > Sat 4/22/2017 5:45 PM > Hal, check image ML219-x7, an additional entry (zoom) There are some > discoveries waiting! > [ OneDrive > MultifracArchive > New > NewGif > ML219-X7.GIF ] > Albrecht > > > Something looks amiss at " >kkammcpoe" in the last color parm line below: > --------------------------------------- > colors=000<2>110110000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0\ > F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<\ > 4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<164>\ >> kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<43>000<4>000330<12>110 > > } > > ML219-x3_FAILS2read { ; Dated Apr22-2017 > ; Created with XPDOS > ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 > ; > ; The colors in this posted PAR file are corrupted. > ; I downloaded Albrecht's image and wrote out > ; its PAR file to get the correct color data. -Hal > ; > reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi5.frm > formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp passes=t > center-mag=-0.743737/2.22045e-016/20.64092/1/-90/-1.23373533611470521e-0\ > 14 params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y maxiter=2048 > inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off > colors=000<2>110110000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0\ > F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<\ > 4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<164>\ >> kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<43>000<4>000330<12>110 > } > > frm:Multifrac_219c { > fac=real(p1) > bailout=imag(p1) > border=real(p2) > out=imag(p2) > z=0 > t=0 > start=1 > c=pixel > : > if (start) > z=z^2+c > t=t+1 > if (|z|>=border) > u=2*(fn1(t/fac)) > z=z^u > start=0 > endif > if (t>out) > u=2*(fn2(t/fac)) > z=z/u > c=p3/u > start=0 > endif > else > z=z^z+c > endif > |z|<=bailout > } > > ML219-x3_FixColors { ; Dated Apr22-2017 Created with XPDOS > ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 > ; Restored downloaded img & wrote PAR file > ; because posted PAR couldn't be read.-Hal > ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 > reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=multi5.frm > formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp > passes=t > center-mag=-0.743737/2.22045e-016/20.64092/0.75/-9\ > 0 params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y > maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis > logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off > colors=000<2>110110000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFR\ > KDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004\ > 000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX\ > 0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2R\ > E<3>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMC\ > RI8OE4KA0000<43>000<4>000330<12>110 > } > > ML219-x3_9 { ; Dated Apr22-2017 Created with XPDOS > ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 > ; Rotated the color map of img ML209-x3_8 > ; to get this image. -Hal Lane > ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 > reset=2099 type=formula > formulafile=A170422.PAR > formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp > passes=1 > center-mag=-1.62352056698746840/+0.000000000000000\ > 22/3302547/0.75/-90 > params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y > maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis > logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off > colors=000<3>000000000<2>000330<6>220220220<3>1100\ > 00110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00\ > <9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<\ > 4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0N\ > H0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36\ > F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA000\ > 0<39>000 > } > > ML219-x3_8 { ; Dated Apr22-2017 Created with XPDOS > ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 > ; Formula by Albrecht Niekamp > ; This image's parms by Hal Lane > ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 > reset=2099 type=formula > formulafile=A170422.PAR > formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp > passes=1 > center-mag=-1.62352056698746840/+0.000000000000000\ > 22/3302547/0.75/-90 > params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y > maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis > logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off > colors=000gcO<3>trZwv`zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci\ > 0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7\ >> Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE\ > 1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16>k\ > kammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<43>00\ > 0<4>000330<6>220220220<3>110000110<2>000KA4<6>d_M > } > > ML219-x3_A { ; Dated Apr22-2017 Created with XPDOS > ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 > ; Formula by Albrecht Niekamp > ; This image's parms by Hal Lane > ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 > reset=2099 type=formula > formulafile=A170422.PAR > formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp > passes=1 > center-mag=-1.62352056698746840/+0.000000000000000\ > 22/8048710/0.75/-90 > params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y > maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis > logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off > colors=000<3>000000000<2>000330<6>220220220<3>1100\ > 00110<2>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00\ > <9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<\ > 4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0N\ > H0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36\ > F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA000\ > 0<39>000 > } > > ========= End of parm file ============================= > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:19:32 +0200 > From: "Multifrac(a)t-online.de" <Multifrac(a)t-online.de> > To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion > <Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Fractint] New Image "Destruction" > Message-ID: <a5d55c49-36f6-33fc-a780-d5a6e42554a2(a)t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Destruction > A combination of fractal and abstract art > Created Apr23, 2017 > Link: > https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%2… > MultifracArchive\New\NewGif\ml220_x3.gif > Waiting for a discussion. Thank you > Albrecht > -----------------------Start par------------------ > ml220-x3 { ; A combination of fractal > ; and abstract art > reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi.frm > formulaname=Multifrac_220a function=exp/exp passes=t > center-mag=-0.760033/-0.0571432/22.99313/1/-77.4999999999999716/-1.23373\ > 533611470521e-014 params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y > maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 > sound=off > colors=200URG<8>CB7A96875<3>000400<23>o00q00s00<3>z00<25>C00A00800<3>000\ > <25>iiijjjlll<3>sss<25>BBB999777<2>222000012<24>0bo0cq0es<2>0jy0kz0jy<24\ >> 09C08A068<2>022000211<24>oiQqjRslS<3>zsX<15>WSH > } > FRM:Multifrac_220a { > fac=real(p1) > bailout=imag(p1) > border=real(p2) > out=imag(p2) > z=0 > t=0 > start=1 > c=pixel > x=0 > : > If (x) > z=z^(z/u)+c > else > z=z^z+c > endif > if (start) > t=t+1 > if (|z|>=border) > u=2*(fn1(t/fac)) > z=pixel > start=0 > x=1 > endif > if (t>out) > u=2*(fn2(t/fac)) > z=z/u > c=p3/u > start=0 > endif > endif > |z|<=bailout > } > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Fractint Digest, Vol 170, Issue 7 > ****************************************

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New Image "Destruction"
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 23 Apr '17

23 Apr '17

Destruction A combination of fractal and abstract art Created Apr23, 2017 Link: https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%2… MultifracArchive\New\NewGif\ml220_x3.gif Waiting for a discussion. Thank you Albrecht -----------------------Start par------------------ ml220-x3 { ; A combination of fractal ; and abstract art reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi.frm formulaname=Multifrac_220a function=exp/exp passes=t center-mag=-0.760033/-0.0571432/22.99313/1/-77.4999999999999716/-1.23373\ 533611470521e-014 params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=yes periodicity=0 sound=off colors=200URG<8>CB7A96875<3>000400<23>o00q00s00<3>z00<25>C00A00800<3>000\ <25>iiijjjlll<3>sss<25>BBB999777<2>222000012<24>0bo0cq0es<2>0jy0kz0jy<24\ >09C08A068<2>022000211<24>oiQqjRslS<3>zsX<15>WSH } FRM:Multifrac_220a { fac=real(p1) bailout=imag(p1) border=real(p2) out=imag(p2) z=0 t=0 start=1 c=pixel x=0 : If (x) z=z^(z/u)+c else z=z^z+c endif if (start) t=t+1 if (|z|>=border) u=2*(fn1(t/fac)) z=pixel start=0 x=1 endif if (t>out) u=2*(fn2(t/fac)) z=z/u c=p3/u start=0 endif endif |z|<=bailout }

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New Image
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 23 Apr '17

23 Apr '17

A new interesting image today, created with the Oracle VirtualXP under Win10. Link: https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%2… Cheers Albrecht ----------------------------------------Start par-------------------------- ML219-x3 { ; Dated Apr22-2017 ; Created with XPDOS ; Oracle Virtual Box-Win10 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi5.frm formulaname=Multifrac_219c function=exp/exp passes=t center-mag=-0.743737/2.22045e-016/20.64092/1/-90/-1.23373533611470521e-0\ 14 params=1024/4094/256/512/0.25/0 float=y maxiter=2048 inside=maxiter outside=tdis logmap=4 periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<2>110110000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0\ F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<\ 4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16\ >kkammcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<43>000<4>000330<12>110 } FRM:Multifrac_219c { fac=real(p1) bailout=imag(p1) border=real(p2) out=imag(p2) z=0 t=0 start=1 c=pixel : if (start) z=z^2+c t=t+1 if (|z|>=border) u=2*(fn1(t/fac)) z=z^u start=0 endif if (t>out) u=2*(fn2(t/fac)) z=z/u c=p3/u start=0 endif else z=z^z+c endif |z|<=bailout }

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Re; New Image
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 22 Apr '17

22 Apr '17

Hal, check image ML219-x7, an additional entry (zoom) There are some discoveries waiting! Albrecht

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Further investigations into Albrecht's fractal, mf102-x1
by Harold Lane 22 Apr '17

22 Apr '17

Here are some further variations on/investigations into Albrecht's recently posted (April 17, 2017) older fractal, mf102-x1. Albrecht's comment in his PAR file (below my signature) is: "PV from a preliminary MFR experiment" Be sure to view these images at full size in your browser! Parent Fractal ------------------- The parent fractal has two interesting discontinuities -- like fault lines -- one cutting across it, and the other cutting it off at the bottom. If you mentally expand the area between these fault lines outward from the center -- to "line up" the fractal's features above and below the top fault line -- it appears that the area between the fault lines has been "shrunk" by a small amount: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417Z.gif The bottom left side of the parent fractal has a "tail" (anti-aliased X5): No "jaggies" (single pixel stair-steps) in the gentle curve at the left edge in the anti-aliased version! http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417Y.jpg The "fault tail at the edge of the world": http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417X.gif A muted study in brown: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417W.gif The bottom center of the parent looks like it has a lot of potential: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417V.gif There are definitely lots of places worth investigating here! : And that doesn't even reflect the possibilities of rotating the color map... http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417U.jpg Color map: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417m.jpg Note: - The parameter sets below have X_Magnification_Factor set to 0.75 as a workaround for Richard's Fractint for Windows beta 5 (not for general distribution.) For use in DOS Fractint or XFractint, change the .75 to 1.0 -- either manually, after loading the parameter set into Fractint: <z> <F6> <edit XmagFactor> <Enter> <Enter> for each of my parm sets loaded using the <@> or <2> screen. Alternatively, edit each parm set's ".75" value in your copy of the parm file (pasted below.) E.g.: Change the ".75.": center-mag=317.131/2.27374e-013/0.0009910927/.75/90 to: "1.0" in the "center-mag" specification: center-mag=317.131/2.27374e-013/0.0009910927/1.0/90 Note: - My version: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/A170417A.gif of the fractal that Albrecht posted on 2017-04-17 is slightly different from his original: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/2017/2017-04-17_MF215-X1.GIF In addition to a slightly different aspect ratio between our images, some areas of black in his fractal have non-black colors in them in my version. I don't know what caused the difference. - Hal Lane ######################## # mailto:hallane@earthlink.net ######################## ======= Albrecht's and my parms -- and his formula for 2017-04-17: ====== comment { This Image found today. A zoom into one of the thousands of images saved during the preliminary multifractal stages. MultifractalArchive\New\NewGif\MF215-x1 Link: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgk0ZUYt0OoehcWNb Cheers Albrecht ==================================================== On 18.04.2017 07:40, Harold Lane wrote: > Is that formula still available, or was it superseded and is no longer > available? Just copy the list from the archive. The frm is part of multi5.frm. Albrecht https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%21 333&cid=461164FB9B029865 "onedrive" > MultifracArchive > Visual > Archive > Formulas > multi5.frm } mf102-x1 { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi.frm formulaname=Multifrac_215 function=exp passes=t center-mag=1.09497/-4.21885e-015/0.7534659/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc\ <9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>00\ 0<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>2TG2\ RE3OC<3>4D3<17>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<6>cYO`UKYQG<3>KA0000<30>000 } frm:Multifrac_215 { ; Albrecht Niekamp feb,03 ;p3=julia seed fac=real (p1) bailout=imag(p1) out=real (p2) border=imag(p2) z=pixel c=p3 t=0 start=1 x=0 y=0 : y2=y*y x2=x*x x=x2-y2-real(c) y=2*x*y-imag(c) z=(z*x)^(z*y) if (start) t=t+1 if (|z|>=border) || (t>out) u=2*(fn1(t/fac)) z=pixel c=p3*u start=0 x=0 y=0 endif endif |z| <=bailout } mf102-x1_parent { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 Albrecht Niekamp ; Parent fractal parameters by Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=170417.PAR formulaname=multifrac_215 function=exp passes=1 center-mag=317.131/2.27374e-013/0.0009910927/.75/90 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>00\ 0KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl\ 0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0\ UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<\ 3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16>kkam\ mcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<30>000 } mf102-x1_Y { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 Albrecht Niekamp ; Fractal parameters by Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=170417.PAR formulaname=multifrac_215 function=exp passes=1 center-mag=-152.68/938.614/0.01872704/.75/90 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>00\ 0KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl\ 0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0\ UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<\ 3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16>kkam\ mcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<30>000 } mf102-x1_X { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 Albrecht Niekamp ; Fractal parameters by Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=170417.PAR formulaname=multifrac_215 function=exp passes=1 center-mag=-188.631/906.939/0.1377648/.75/90 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>00\ 0KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl\ 0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0\ UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<\ 3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16>kkam\ mcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<30>000 } mf102-x1_W { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 Albrecht Niekamp ; Fractal parameters by Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=170417.PAR formulaname=multifrac_215 function=exp passes=1 center-mag=-189.259/908.886/0.7548257/0.75/80.0000\ 00000000441/1.2079226507921703e-012 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>00\ 0KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl\ 0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<7>Q0\ UU0YX0a_0dc0hf0l<2>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<\ 3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<10>2WI2TG2RE<3>4G54D36F5<16>kkam\ mcpoe<3>zwm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<30>000 } mf102-x1_V { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 Albrecht Niekamp ; Fractal parameters by Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=170417.PAR formulaname=multifrac_215 function=exp passes=1 center-mag=8.85519/8.73968e-013/0.03920089/0.75/90 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>00\ 0KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl\ 0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<9>X0\ a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4\ h_2oa0wc<11>2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>z\ wm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<30>000 } mf102-x1_U { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 Albrecht Niekamp ; Fractal parameters by Hal Lane ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 ; Fractint Version 2099 Patchlevel 8 reset=2099 type=formula formulafile=170417.PAR formulaname=multifrac_215 function=exp passes=1 center-mag=1.4825/8.81073e-013/0.1010332/0.75/90 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>00\ 0KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc<9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl\ 0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>000<9>X0\ a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4\ h_2oa0wc<11>2TG2RE3OC<2>4G54D36F5<16>kkammcpoe<3>z\ wm<3>mhZjdVfaS<3>VMCRI8OE4KA0000<30>000 } ======= End of parm file =================================== --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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New Image
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 18 Apr '17

18 Apr '17

This Image found today. A zoom into one of the thousands of images saved during the preliminary multifractal stages. MultifractalArchive\New\NewGif\MF215-x1 Link: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgk0ZUYt0OoehcWNb Cheers Albrecht mf102-x1 { ; PV from a preliminary MFR experiment ; Apr17/2017 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=multi.frm formulaname=Multifrac_215 function=exp passes=t center-mag=1.09497/-4.21885e-015/0.7534659/1/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=768/1024/512/245/0.75/0.375 float=y maxiter=1024 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 sound=off colors=000<11>000000000<3>000330<11>110110110<3>000KA4<7>gcOjgRmjT<3>zzc\ <9>UOFRKDOGA<3>A00<9>f0Ci0Dl0F<3>z0K<6>Z0EV0DR0C<3>A08004000<26>000<4>00\ 0<9>X0a_0dc0h<3>p0w<4>_0dX0aU0Y<2>K0NH0JG0NE1R<3>7UX6`Z4h_2oa0wc<11>2TG2\ RE3OC<3>4D3<17>kkammcpoe<3>zwm<6>cYO`UKYQG<3>KA0000<30>000 }

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Re: [Fractint] Is the list still active and am I still subscribed?
by David Jones 17 Apr '17

17 Apr '17

Well, I have been doing other things away from fractals. I just had a story published in a local mystery anthology (check my domain below if you're interested). More poetry, some songs and photos in progress. But fractals lurk in every corner, just waiting to leap out and pounce. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com On Apr 16, 2017 21:49, sciwise(a)ihug.co.nz wrote: > > I wonder that myself on occasion. > > I'm less artistic and > abstract than the others hence I don't post > > often. > > On 14/04/2017 > 16:44, alex dukay wrote: > > > the list is alive and well as am I > > > > > Alex Dukay > > > >> On Apr 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jim Muth wrote: Fractal > fans: This is just a test to see if all is well with the list. Jim Muth

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Is the list still active and am I still subscribed?
by Jim Muth 17 Apr '17

17 Apr '17

Fractal fans: This is just a test to see if all is well with the list. Jim Muth

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Re: [Fractint] Is the list still active and am I still subscribed?
by David Jones 13 Apr '17

13 Apr '17

It IS suffering a severe FOTD shortage, tho. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com On Apr 13, 2017 12:31, Bill Jemison wrote: > > All well with me... don't know about the list. > > Bill Jemison > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:01 PM Jim Muth wrote: > > > > Fractal fans: > > > > This is just a test to see if all is well with the list. > > > > Jim Muth

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Re: [Fractint] hu ho, expired cert ?
by Timothy Wegner 05 Apr '17

05 Apr '17

RE fractint.org cert Ah, what a fine bunch of sharp-eyed fractint loyalists! :-) This is a bit off topic, but since list traffic is low, and several of you have expressed interest, here goes. The short explanation is that in my copious hours as a happy retired person I have numerous projects queued up, and some times unconscionable lengths of time go by between tactics. Too many rocking chairs to rock back and forth in and nap in, and so little time! https://fractint.net is the main fractint site, and the cert there is fine. fractint.net is hosted on a VPS (Virtual Private Server) that is managed by Dreamhost. For various reasons (control and to save a few bucks) I have been experimenting with migrating all my sites from the Dreamhost VPS to DreamCompute, which is an unmanaged service that allows one to spawn virtual machines that you configure yourself. fractint.org used to be a mirror of fractint.net, but I copied it to my DreamCompute instance. Various international trips (and the afore-mentioned quality time in rocking chairs) delayed my efforts. This is actually not hard to finish, I should bestir myself to do it. As one of you noticed, I am also migrating from the Apache web server to Nginx. The holdup on my end has more to do with some other sites I am hosting than fractint.org. One of them is a Wordpress site, which is a bit more complex. Fractint.net/org, on the other hand, is just static html with almost no complications. There was a learning curve involved in using DreamCompute. Since it is unmanaged, it's like putting Linux on your own box and installing and configuring everything yourself. No help of any kind. I have more or less learned what I need to know, though making an attempt to lock things down and have a reasonably secure setup is a challenge. I haven't done anything on this project since January. Joking about rocking chairs aside, my life is very full with a lot going on. My reason for working on web hosting is that I figure doing technical work keeps the brain going. That remains to be seen. There's really no excuse for me to have left fractint.org hanging in limbo, so without making any promises, I'll have a look and see what it takes to have fractint.org go live again. When done it will be a true mirror (a copy) of fractint.net, and not just a redirect to the same site. Tim

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Re: [Fractint] hu ho, expired cert ?
by David Jones 04 Apr '17

04 Apr '17

On Apr 3, 2017 21:10, tth <sigfood(a)dinorama.fr> wrote: > fractint.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate > expired on 01/05/2017 02:38 PM. The current time is 04/04/2017 09:07 AM. I just went to http://www.fractint.org and got a "Welcome to nginx!" message. ;) https://www.fractint.org showed me the pages after I allowed an exception. David W. Jones gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com

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hu ho, expired cert ?
by tth 04 Apr '17

04 Apr '17

fractint.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 01/05/2017 02:38 PM. The current time is 04/04/2017 09:07 AM. -- http://weblog.mixart-myrys.org/?post/2017/03/THSF-2017

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New Fractal Music by Albrecht
by Harold Lane 22 Mar '17

22 Mar '17

Albrecht emailed me, saying: > I wrote a new piece of fractal music and mailed it to Fractint, > but apparently, it did not make it. > Can you assist and mail it for me? > Thanks > What do you think about it? Here's the file Albrecht emailed me: http://tinyurl.com/2017-03-19-FLYING-MID or: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/Albrecht/Music/2017-03-19_FLYING.MID I found Albrecht's new fractal music, Flying, a gently floating, continuously forward moving, relaxing piece. The Fractint email list (especially the archives) has been having some problelms recently. Tim Wegner and I have been communicating about it. Sometimes things get better and then another problem will surface. Hopefully, things will get stabilized... - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane(a)earthlink.net ######################## --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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FLying - DL Adress
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 21 Mar '17

21 Mar '17

Hi, for me there is a "Flying" folder available for download have released it additionally Please also check the "live" address that visually shows the uploading process for me https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21ABlRi3Q6h6FxY1s&id=461164FB9B029865%2… ; Albrecht

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(Fractint) fractal Music/ flying
by Multifrac＠t-online.de 20 Mar '17

20 Mar '17

Thanks for your encouraging comments Check the link to the Multifractal Archives: Audio / Natural Music / Flying https://1drv.ms/f/s!AmWYApv7ZBFGgk0ZUYt0OoehcWNb should be available for downloading w/o password Albrecht

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Fractals in Cambodian ruins
by Timothy Wegner 14 Mar '17

14 Mar '17

I have returned from a recent trip to Thailand and Angkor Wat. Some of the buildings at Angkor Wat are in a wonderful state of preservation (partly due to huge maintenance efforts), Other ruins (there are several different building complexes within walking distance) are still partially rubble. One in particular was fascinating because a giant 1000-year-old serpentine tree has inserted itself in the rock walls. The result has a strange beauty, and certainly a fractal character. Archaeological recovery of the building/tree faces a philosophical obstacle, because now the tree is part of what needs to be preserved. I am sure the building will be renovated, almost certainly with the tree intact. Tim

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