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FOTD 14-07-04 (Deep Mandelbrot-1 [7])
by Jim Muth 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

FOTD -- July 14, 2004 (Rating 7) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: With the rush still on here at F.C., I had to find a fractal without delay. For my fractal, I turned to the richest fractal in existence -- the Mandelbrot set -- and ventured far out on the main stem. I checked a filament on the east shore line of a tiny midget on the stem, and found an even tinier midget there. I let the image render on my old fractal computer while I tended to other tasks on another machine. Well beyond the range of conventional math, the image takes well over one hour to render, but the result is unusual enough to make the wait worth the effort. The wait can be avoided entirely by visiting the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> and downloading the completed image from there. The name of the image, "Deep Mandelbrot-1", implies that there may be more such images in the near future. The rating of a 7 is raised to an overall value of a 9 when the render time is considered. Tuesday here at Fractal Central was cloudy and muggy but dry. The dynamic cats found enough time in the yard to keep them happy. Today is starting cloudy and muggier, with thunder- storms forecast. It remains to be seen how the cats will adjust. For me, it looks like another busy day. Until next FOTD, take care, and be alert for lost fractals. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Deep_Mandelbrot-1 { ; time=1:19:21.33--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-1.9990\ 9562610837643202295/-4.587846843575e-11/1.815391e+\ 019 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=7500 bailout=4 inside=0 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=0005IQAFSFCUK9WI8SBCEG7PE6LC5IA4F83B628_HeW\ F`SDWOBSK9NG7IC5E839qnFjfDc_CXTAQM9JF7C867mp6dh6X`\ 6PT5HL59D8XP7QL6KH6DD579B8y96m85b73R62GYAKS8HM6EG4\ BA28nWZbORSGKG8CkQDeMC`JBVGAQD9LA8F77A46BGgADa9BW8\ 9R77L65G53A6Td5JT5AHrH6hD5ZA5P75F45c1vcPeZL_UIVPEQ\ KBKF7FA4AmKuaFgRAVG5Iw4co3Zg3U_2PS2KK1FC1AbGURBLG6\ D25O43EjkfQOO`NsQFbF8Mr6Uh5PZ4KP3FF2A72k61`61Q51Fs\ Z8UI6xUxlOlaIaRCRG6GizDboBWeAPW9IL7BB6nY6bP5SH5G95\ he7aZ6VS6PL6IE5B75txKbdFMLAaBUX9QS8MN6JJ5FE3C928zl\ vpdmfXdYPWOHNE9EFXrDRiBMaAHU8BL66DeyYTdOHLEoASh8Oa\ 7LV6IP4EI3BB28XDsRAhL8ZG5PA3FoTwrfGaTCLF8XyYSnTNdO\ JVJELE9B902_668557547536536525515J`0XdMQVHJLDCB9fS\ R`ONWKKQGHLCEF8BA48ogGg_E_TCSMAKF8C86tw9mo8gh8``7V\ U7ON6IF6B85CVTAPO9JJ7DE679L5dI4ZF3TD3NA2H71BgV6VL5\ IB5W8eS7_O6VK5QG4KC3F82ANZKHNFBCA9O27C4KBJhObkNcnM\ dhldchbZd`U`ZPXXKTVFPTALR } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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Re: [Fractint] XP and Fractint
by gnome＠hawaii.rr.com 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

See - Windows XP is STILL just a GUI running on top of DOS! ;-) David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Osuch <osuchj(a)avalon.net> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:20 am Subject: [Fractint] XP and Fractint > Here is something to try with XP that works on my system: > > During windows startup press <F8> to bring up the menu selections. > Select "Safe Mode with Command Prompt". > Change (cd) to your Fractint directory and run Fractint. > When done, exit Fractint and type logoff to return to the logon > prompt.You will need to restart the computer from here to get back > to the normal XP > environment. > > Jonathan

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FOTD 13-07-04 (Motley Mandeloids [4])
by Jim Muth 13 Jul '04

13 Jul '04

FOTD -- July 13, 2004 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: It's another busy day here at F.C., with four customers clamoring for attention, so the discussion will be brief. Today's scene is something that I found a few weeks ago. But when I found it, I decided that it failed to meet FOTD standards. The scene lies in the Mandeloid fractal that results when Z^1.5 is subtracted from Z^(-0.2) and (1/C) is added. The image is not much in the way of fractal art, but it is one of the most unusual collections of Mandel things in one concentra- ted area that I have yet stumbled upon. Such a motley crew of Mandeloids is rarely seen. When I saw today's image, I could not resist the temptation to name it "Motley Mandeloids". I rated it at a 4. It's near total lack of artistic merit precludes anything higher. The render time of 46 minutes, at least on my tired old clunker, helps none at all, and actually holds the overall value, which can rate as high as 1000, to a meager 9. The favored way to see the image will almost certainly be to download it from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> The fractal cats were not very happy with Monday's weather here at Fractal Central. Though the flooding rain stayed just to the northeast, the frequent heavy showers during the day kept things thoroughly wet down. And the temperature of 84F 29C and oppres- sive humidity made things equally uncomfortable for humans. Today is starting cloudy and muggy. It could be a repeat. If I find time, the next FOTD will appear in 24 hours. If not, it could be 48 or 72 hours. Until whenever, take care, and watch to see what develops. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Motley_Mandeloids { ; time=0:45:58.08--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=t center-mag=-0.6806213875813651/+0.1253195549246482\ /890.3401/1/-140/-7.37500338576779768e-013 params=1/-0.2/-1/1.5/0/0 float=y maxiter=15000 inside=0 logmap=54 periodicity=10 colors=000oQXpPbpPgqOlsMprNqqOqpOqoPqoPqnQqmQqlRqk\ RqkSqjSqiTrhTrgUrgUrfVreVrdWrcWrcXrbXraYr`Yr_Zs_Zs\ Z_sY_sX`sW`sWasVasUbsTbsScsScsTbqUboUbnValVajWaiWa\ gX`eX`dY`bY`aZ__Z_Y__X__V`ZT`ZSaZQb`1b`DaZP`T`ZNl_\ Ok_Pj_Qi`Rh`Rg`SfaTeaUdaVcbVbbWabX`cY_cZZcZZc_Yd`X\ daWdbVebUecTedSfeRffQffPggOghNgiMjhLhiMgiMfiMeiMdi\ McjMajN`jN_jNZjNYkNXkNVkOUkOTkOSlORlOQlOOlPNlPMmPL\ mPKmPJmPHmQGnQFnQEnQDnQBpQAqPCnQDlREjSFhTHfUIdVJbW\ K`WLZXNXYOVZPS_QQ`SOaTMbUKbVIcWGdYEeZCf_Ag`8hZ3jX5\ ma6hf7ck9_pAVuBQwBOyCMwFPuIRtLUrOWpRYoU`mXbk_djbgh\ eifhkekncnpessbqr`orZmqXkqUipSgpQeoOcoJZvMaoOdiQgc\ SjYUmSUpOWpMXpLZpK_pIapHbpGdpFepDgpChpBjp9kp8mp7mr\ 7nq6np6no6no5nn5nm5nl4nl4nk4nj3ni3ni3nh2ng2qe1of2n\ g2mg3lh3kh3ji4ii4hj5fk5ek5dl6cl6bm6am7`n7_n8Zo8Xp8\ Wp9Vq9UqATrASrARsBQsBOtBNuCMuCLvDKvDJwDIwEHxEFzCGz\ EHzFHzGIzHJzIJzKnzInzNozS } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Re: [Fractint] Ancient Par Files.
by Peter Moreland 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

Hello again Gents, I see nothing has changed in the fractal world over the last ten years.. Everyone is as willing to help as ever, now I remember why I enjoyed the collaborations so much! Tim: >>Don't you have a Fractal Creations 2nd Edition CD? Yes I do, but for some reason I cant get some of the images to reproduce, for example 'Meta Cold' doesn't display the correct co-ordinates. rather than a full screen deep zoom I get a tiny sphere at the middle of the image. Ron: >> I also have over 300 PAR files, mostly "ancient" stuff, including pete-1.par Hello Ron. I am sure I remember you from shoes old days ;-) I have Pete-1.par but would love to see the rest of your par collection if you don't mind sending them to me? Paul: >>I have a few of your PAR files. I reckon I have most of those but I think you may have found one or two for me ;-) I will go through the list and let you know, is that ok? Ron: >>There is an extensive collection of Fractint PAR files in the UltraFractal Library. Have your checked there? Bloody Hell Ron! (forgive the swearing I am a Brit) Have you been at this for the last ten years with no break?... I am not worthy etc. I found the Ultra Fractal site but not the library, can you give me a URL link for it please? WOW.. I just looked at some of the features for Ultra Fractal (never heard of it before). So what is the story? What are the pros and cons compared to fractint? As I said forgive the ignorance, having been out of the loop for a decade I need you guys to help me catch up! All the best Peter

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Re: [Fractint] FOTD, 17-12-99 (Merlin the Magician)
by Paul N. Lee 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

Jim Muth wrote: > > FOTD -- December 17, 1999 > > MerlinTheMagician { ; time=0:10:38.00 on a p200, SF5 > reset=2000 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm > formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 > center-mag=+2.50921249705071/-0.5099563476714958/2.5\ > 02054e+010/1/50.001 params=0.14/3/-2.11/-1/0/0 > float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=204 > symmetry=none periodicity=10 > Well, here is one of Jim's images that seems to have become fairly popular on EBay over the past few weeks. One of the Users has taken it for his logo: http://stores.ebay.com/3gscollectibles?ssPageName=VIStoreHeaderLogo And seems to be using it for every item they have been selling recently. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/

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Re: Probable Influence Equation of an Attractor
by mdoctorow＠comcast.net 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

>From Osher Doctorow Ph.D. mdoctorow(a)comcast.net For readers who want to know what happens when P(A-->B) = P(A) or P(B), equation P(A-->B) = P(B) when expanded using the rules of probability theory is equivalent to 1 - P(A) + P(AB) = P(B), or in other words P(B) + P(A) - P(AB) = 1. The equation P(A-->B) = P(A) when expanded is equivalent to 1 - P(A) + P(AB) = P(A), or in other words 1 + P(AB) = 2P(A). Notice that P(A-->B) = 1 + P(AB) - P(A) is easy to derive from the definition P(A-->B) = P(A' U B) and the laws of probability which say: 1) P(A U B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(AB) 2) P(A' ) = 1 - P(A) where A' or "not A" (technically the "complement" of A) is the part of the Universe outside A. Then we get P(A-->B) = P(A' U B) = P(A') + P(B) - P(A' B) = 1 - P(A) + P(B) - P(A' B), and we can show that P(B) - P(A' B) = P(AB) because from (1) when A and B do not intersect, that is P(AB) is 0, we get P(A U B) = P(A) + P(B), and so P(B) = P(AB) + P(A' B) since AB and A' B don't intersect. There is a more complicated definition of A-->B than A' U B, namely A-->B = (AB' )', the complement of the intersection of A and the complement of B, but from the laws of set theory this reduces to A' U B. Osher Doctorow

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Probable Influence Equation of an Attractor
by mdoctorow＠comcast.net 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

>From Osher Doctorow Ph.D. mdoctorow(a)comcast.net I recently proved on sci.stat.math that the equation of an Attractor using Probable Influence is: 1) P(A-->B) = P(A) where P(A) is the probability of the attractor (A) and A-->B, the influence of A on B, turns out to be A' U B which is roughly speaking "either 'not A' or B," or for those who know about set theory complements, "the union of the complement of A and/or B." P(A-->B) is called the Probable Influence (PI) of A on B. Intuitively, equation (1) means that A gives "all its influence to B", or in a slightly different way of expressing it, the result of the (probable) influence of A on B is just the probability of A. This means roughly that all that is left from the influence of A on B is A itself - as we expect if A is an attractor, in a sense. This is the first time to my knowledge that probability-statistics has been related to dynamical systems/chaos/fractals in regard to an Attractor, and where there's an equation, numerical analysis and approximations will eventually be close behind. This is a good opportunity to show readers that the mathematics has a remarkable intuitive quality, by giving an example "opposite" to an Attractor, namely where the influence of some event/set/process A on B has no effect on B. This is "independence" of A and B, and there are two equations, depending on whether one is using Mainstream (Bayesian) Conditional Probability-Statistics (BCP) or PI. Using PI, the equation is: 2) P(A-->B) = P(B) In BCP, P(B/A) means "the probability of B given A," that is to say given the fact that A has occurred or given that A is fixed or constant, and the result is: 3) P(B/A) = P(B) (if P(A) is not 0) which, since P(B/A) turns out to be P(AB) divided by P(A), where AB is the event that both A and B occur simultaneously (together), (3) is equivalent to the usual expression: 4) P(AB) = P(A)P(B) for what is called "statistically independent events," such as tossing two fair coins simultaneously without one coin interfering with the other and without the tossing being such as to affect one coin more than the other. Whether we use "statistical independence" as in (3) or (4), or PI-independence as in (2), readers can see that P(A-->B) = P(A) is the opposite of P(A-->B) = P(B) in an intuitive sense, just as we would expect "independent" events to be the opposite of "enormously affected events" where the latter occurs for an Attractor. Likewise, P(B/A) = P(A) is the opposite of P(B/A) = P(B), and instead of leading to P(AB) = P(A)P(B) as for the latter, the former leads to P(AB) = P(A)^2 where ^2 means "squared", that is to say P(A)^2 is P(A) times P(A). Osher Doctorow

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FOTD 10-07-04 (Iterative Insanity, corrected version [5])
by Jim Muth 10 Jul '04

10 Jul '04

FOTD -- July 10, 2004 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: (This corrected version replaces a backslash that was inadvertently omitted from the first version, and caused an error message to appear when the parameter file was run.) Today's image is pure insanity. Never have I seen such a motley collection of fractal possibilities with so little organization. There are diamonds, spirals, shapeless fragments, and almost any- thing one could imagine scattered through the image. The name "Iterative Insanity" seems quite appropriate for such chaos. The parent fractal is the same Z^1.26+C Mandeloid of the past two FOTD's. To find today's image I went to the north branch of the most prominent valley of the parent, and dove down to a magnitude of a modest 1800. The 47-minute render time is a result of the unusually high iteration count of the elements of the image. Unable to decide whether I liked the image, I rated it at an average 5, which gives an overall value of 11 when adjusted for the render time. The most convenient way to see the scene is to download the finished GIF image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Near perfect weather both Thursday and Friday made for contented cats. With a repeat forecast for today, I expect more content- ment. I also expect to be working most of the day. So until next FOTD, take care, and when you have taken enough care, stop to have a little fun. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Iterative_Insanity { ; time=0:47:12.01--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotBC2 passes=1 center-mag=-0.46559005566451/+0.6125030496022825/1\ 802.776 params=1.26/0/-70/100 float=y maxiter=25000 inside=0 logmap=260 periodicity=10 colors=000kHjjIjiJjhKjgQjfWjeajdgjcmjbnjboiapi`qi_\ riZsiYtiXuiWviVwiUxiUyiWwjXvjZuj_tj`rjbqjcpkdokfmk\ glkhkkjjkkhklglnfloelpclrblsalt`lsairbgqceqdcpeaof\ _ngYnhWmhUliSljQkkOjlMimKinIhoGgpEgpChmDhkDhiEifEi\ dEibFj_FjYFjWGkTGkRHkPHlMHlKIlIIlGIhEPdCV`BaX9gT8n\ P6tM5zP9yRCyTFyWIyYLx_OxbSxdVxfYwi`wkcwmfwoiwkdog`\ hdXa`SUXONUKGdIDoGAyE8wDAvCBuCDtBEsBFrAHpAIo9Kn9Lm\ 8Ml7Ok7Pi6Rh6Sg5Tf5Ve4Wd4XbBS`IOZPKXWFVbBTh7biAmjD\ mkGrlJemMYnPZoSZpV_qY`r``scatfbuicvlcwodxrejfezwZv\ rTrmNnhHjcBg_DeZEdYFcXHbWI`WJ_VKZUMYTNWTOVSQURRTQS\ RQTQPVPOWONXMNZLM_KL`JKaIKbHMcGNdGPeFQfFRfETgEUhDV\ iCXjCYjB_kB`lAamAcn9dn9eo8eo8eo8eo8eo8eo8do8do8do8\ do8do8do8do8co8co8co8cp7cp7cp7cq7br7bs7bt7bu7bv7bw\ 7bx7ax7ay7ay7bz7ez7hz7kz8nz8qzKtzNwzQzzSzzUzzWzzYz\ z_zzazzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzc\ zzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzcz } frm:MandelbrotBC2 { ; by several Fractint users e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*floor(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z|<a } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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FOTD 10-07-04 (Iterative Insanity [5])
by Jim Muth 10 Jul '04

10 Jul '04

FOTD -- July 10, 2004 (Rating 5) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Today's image is pure insanity. Never have I seen such a motley collection of fractal possibilities with so little organization. There are diamonds, spirals, shapeless fragments, and almost any- thing one could imagine scattered through the image. The name "Iterative Insanity" seems quite appropriate for such chaos. The parent fractal is the same Z^1.26+C Mandeloid of the past two FOTD's. To find today's image I went to the north branch of the most prominent valley of the parent, and dove down to a magnitude of a modest 1800. The 47-minute render time is a result of the unusually high iteration count of the elements of the image. Unable to decide whether I liked the image, I rated it at an average 5, which gives an overall value of 11 when adjusted for the render time. The most convenient way to see the scene is to download the finished GIF image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Near perfect weather both Thursday and Friday made for contented cats. With a repeat forecast for today, I expect more content- ment. I also expect to be working most of the day. So until next FOTD, take care, and when you have taken enough care, stop to have a little fun. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Iterative_Insanity { ; time=0:47:12.01--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotBC2 passes=1 center-mag=-0.46559005566451/+0.6125030496022825/1 802.776 params=1.26/0/-70/100 float=y maxiter=25000 inside=0 logmap=260 periodicity=10 colors=000kHjjIjiJjhKjgQjfWjeajdgjcmjbnjboiapi`qi_\ riZsiYtiXuiWviVwiUxiUyiWwjXvjZuj_tj`rjbqjcpkdokfmk\ glkhkkjjkkhklglnfloelpclrblsalt`lsairbgqceqdcpeaof\ _ngYnhWmhUliSljQkkOjlMimKinIhoGgpEgpChmDhkDhiEifEi\ dEibFj_FjYFjWGkTGkRHkPHlMHlKIlIIlGIhEPdCV`BaX9gT8n\ P6tM5zP9yRCyTFyWIyYLx_OxbSxdVxfYwi`wkcwmfwoiwkdog`\ hdXa`SUXONUKGdIDoGAyE8wDAvCBuCDtBEsBFrAHpAIo9Kn9Lm\ 8Ml7Ok7Pi6Rh6Sg5Tf5Ve4Wd4XbBS`IOZPKXWFVbBTh7biAmjD\ mkGrlJemMYnPZoSZpV_qY`r``scatfbuicvlcwodxrejfezwZv\ rTrmNnhHjcBg_DeZEdYFcXHbWI`WJ_VKZUMYTNWTOVSQURRTQS\ RQTQPVPOWONXMNZLM_KL`JKaIKbHMcGNdGPeFQfFRfETgEUhDV\ iCXjCYjB_kB`lAamAcn9dn9eo8eo8eo8eo8eo8eo8do8do8do8\ do8do8do8do8co8co8co8cp7cp7cp7cq7br7bs7bt7bu7bv7bw\ 7bx7ax7ay7ay7bz7ez7hz7kz8nz8qzKtzNwzQzzSzzUzzWzzYz\ z_zzazzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzc\ zzczzczzczzczzczzczzczzcz } frm:MandelbrotBC2 { ; by several Fractint users e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*floor(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z|<a } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Re: [Fractint] The Hefty Edition of FracTint (Advanced Paint ByNumber)
by Jim Muth 09 Jul '04

09 Jul '04

SherLok Merfy wrote: >> ....Jim Muth might offer his parameter files >> compressed to consume less than three meg. Paul Lee replied: >Those are already compiled and ready to use with Jim's permission: > http://www.les.stclair.btinternet.co.uk/fractals/pars.htm >Along with the expanded ORGFORM of FractInt formulae: > http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/OrgForm.html Permission to include the FOTD discussions and parameter files is granted. The CD that for several years I have been promising to release, containing all the FOTD discussions and images, now looks like it will never happen. I am simply too busy to give the project the effort it requires. Good luck with the project. Next FOTD on July 10. Jim M.

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