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Hello the Camp
I have found that Jesse Gray referred to as the "Indian Fighter" was an
ancestor of mine. Born Sept. 9, 1789 Newberry, SC Died Aug. 18, 1871 Noble
Twp, Jay Co. IN
In 1808 or 9 His mother and siblings were killed by six Miami Indians. near
Fountain City in Wayne County, Indiana. He swar to avenge the killings and
over the next few years kill them all About 1824 Jesse Gray and Smith, a
Mulatto, killed Fleming, an Indian, in the house of Lewallyn. Both were
indicted in 1825 for this, so Jesse left the state and resided near Hill
Grove, Ohio

I was wonder if anyone had any more information on this event.
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Don Riley noted something on the AMM site and asked me my opinion and wheth=
er I =0Ahad any knowledge from the fur trade histories, and since I drew a =
blank, I am =0Aposting the query on this list.=0A=0AOn the public AMM list =
there is a list of the 15 original rendezvous sites and =0Aplaces the=A0mou=
ntain men=A0liked to winter.=A0It is at the bottom of the "Glossary of =0AM=
ountain Man Terms, Words, and Expressions" and was apparently put together =
by =0AWalt Hayward & Brad McDade.=0A=0AOne of the listed "favorite winterin=
g" spots is the San Luis Valley. On the =0Alist=A0it is placed=A0in New Mex=
ico, which I do not believe is correct (it is in =0AColorado) but that is n=
either here nor there.=0A=0AHas anyone=A0seen any research that would show =
the San Louis Valley to be a =0Afavorite wintering spot during that era?=0A=
=0ADuring the winter that area would seem to be a pretty tough place to env=
ision as =0Aa wintering spot as there is=A0little water, little wood, littl=
e graze, little =0Acover, and a lot of NW to SE wind.=0A=0AThanks... Paul =
=0A=0A=A0Paul W. Jones =0AFrom ferguson@??? Mon Aug 09 10:40:25 2010
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Howdy Paul!
It's my understanding that the southern Ute used what might be =
considered the southern periphery of the San Luis Valley as a wintering =
ground... meaning the northern end of Taos Valley... I've explored this =
region at length and camped in many spots over the years and there is no =
spot where one ends and the other begins... the vicinity around Cerro de =
la Olla or less romantically known as "Pot Mountain" lies south of the =
CO/NM state line several miles, essentially west of present day Questa, =
this area has many remnant historical Ute camp sites. If you camp on the =
wooded lower slopes of the many shield volcanoes that define the valley =
floor you also avoid the extreme overnight cold temperatures that =
characterize both the San Luis and Taos Valleys 15-20 degrees warmer =
"lows" in winter are not uncommon when compared to Alamosa or Taos... =
game is abundant (today) as is fuelwood, -they knew something of their =
country, the Ute people.

Christopher Ferguson
Austin, TX

On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Paul W. Jones wrote:

> Don Riley noted something on the AMM site and asked me my opinion and =

whether I=20
> had any knowledge from the fur trade histories, and since I drew a =

blank, I am=20
> posting the query on this list.
>=20
> On the public AMM list there is a list of the 15 original rendezvous =

sites and=20
> places the mountain men liked to winter. It is at the bottom of the =

"Glossary of=20
> Mountain Man Terms, Words, and Expressions" and was apparently put =

together by=20
> Walt Hayward & Brad McDade.
>=20
> One of the listed "favorite wintering" spots is the San Luis Valley. =

On the=20
> list it is placed in New Mexico, which I do not believe is correct (it =

is in=20
> Colorado) but that is neither here nor there.
>=20
> Has anyone seen any research that would show the San Louis Valley to =

be a=20
> favorite wintering spot during that era?
>=20
> During the winter that area would seem to be a pretty tough place to =

envision as=20
> a wintering spot as there is little water, little wood, little graze, =

little=20
> cover, and a lot of NW to SE wind.
>=20
> Thanks... Paul=20
>=20
> Paul W. Jones=20
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