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Author: WILLIAM GANTIC
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To: Jim Ridolfi, Sean Kyle, hist_text, rjbublitz
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tomahawk
Here is another must have book, all color photos of the real things. Many chapters on different items.

I have an old Collins small axe from my father, we were from Ct. and he grew up cutting a lot of wood. This head looks like the one in the Voyager's Sketchbook. I just need a good straight handle.

Bill
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From: rjbublitz@???<mailto:rjbublitz@???>
To: Jim Ridolfi<mailto:aston10@???> ; Sean Kyle<mailto:neotoma_mexicana@???> ; hist_text@???<mailto:hist_text@???>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tomahawk


Jim, Check out the book "Firearms, Traps, & Tools of the Mountain Men" by Carl P. Russell ISBN# 0-8263-0465-6 It is a must have for your gear research for other reasons, too... Check it out for what you want, then talk to Dennis Miles of ' Double Edge Forge '- google it. I carry a hand ax made by a local brother. He's injured so isn't working his forge lately. Good luck, get that book though - you won't be sorry- Randy

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Randal Bublitz
Life is short, paddle hard...

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From: Jim Ridolfi <aston10@???<mailto:aston10@???>>

> Thanks for the advice everyone.
>
> Wynn - I'm looking for Fur Trade authenticity first and usefulness a close
> second.
>
> Where does one today find an ax that would be correct? I don't imagine I could
> just put a straight handle on any ax.
>
> (For list) Any particular makers that come to mind? What do you carry and where
> did it come from?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim
> =====================
>
> From: Sean Kyle
> Date: 2008/03/18 Tue PM 04:13:53 CST
> To: hist_text@???<mailto:hist_text@???>
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tomahawk
>
> Fellas,
>
> Relatively new to the list here. Been on it a couple weeks and have enjoyed
> your e-mails.
>
> As far as the axes go. These fellas are right to steer you towards a poled ax.
> Much more useful for everything but throwing, and likely more correct for
> western fur trappers. There's an old article in the Museum of the Fur Trade
> that Hanson did called 'Axes and Tomahawks' that is a good resource on this.
> You can find it on their web page and either throw them a few bucks for a back
> issue (and a good cause) or try to request it on interlibrary loan. Polled
> hatchets or half axes seemed to predominate for trappers and even later on for
> NDNZ. Tomahawks or as they were called in period trade lists, squaw axes, were
> apparently mostly for the NDN trade. Some had ears, some didn't. Some were
> forged and some were actually cast. I think that article documents cast half
> axes coming from Standish or Collins and going to AFC or the War Dept. as early
> as 1834. I'll check the source tonight for exact details. What they've said
> about straight handles is also true. Curved ones
> didn't come into fashion until around the Civil War or so.
>
> Sean Kyle
>
> Christopher Ferguson wrote: Well put Wynn...
>
> If you're (Jim) looking for a rendezvous toy then buy a cast steel
> throwing 'hawk from Track of the Wolf or similar sources everywhere...
> but if it's a historical tool you're after my previous descriptions
> and cautions are generally on the mark. I've never owned a throwing
> 'hawk and never will... for me such things are the very reasons I've
> consistently avoided the rendezvous scene altogether...
>
> Christopher Ferguson
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Wynn wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > I'm looking for recommendations on where to get a PC
> > > > tomahawk. Any good (or bad) experiences I can learn
> > > > from? Any suggestions on what to be looking for?
> > > Thanks in advance! >
> > > > Jim Ridolfi
> > > >
> >
> > Do you want to throw it at a log or use it to pound a wood stake to
> > hold a beaver like a trapper?
> >
> > Of course I am stearing your mind to think that an ax is more likely
> > equipment than a tomahawk for the typical RMFT.
> >
> > Wynn
> >
>
>
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